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NYTimes Grudgingly Admits Tea Party Winning Immigration Fight
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Posted on 08/13/2014 9:12:28 AM PDT by cotton1706

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1 posted on 08/13/2014 9:12:28 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

They aren’t winning, they just aren’t losing as bad as they could be.

All those illegals are not being deported and at the very least any kids they have will be American citizens.


2 posted on 08/13/2014 9:16:38 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: cotton1706

There literally is no sane argument that everyone in central America has an ancestral right to live in the USA, and that they should be able to pour in, piled on tops of freight trains. We are talking people who have never used a flush toilet and most of whom are illiterate,,,even in Spanish. As our Compton friends would say, “Bit@h please”.
As they love to say, the optics are bad.


3 posted on 08/13/2014 9:17:48 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: cotton1706

Is it just me, or anyone else think this just another ploy by the NYSlimes to incite anger towards the Tea Party to get their base worked up? Most Americans don’t like illegal immigration, not just conservatives.


4 posted on 08/13/2014 9:18:00 AM PDT by lula (Shine the light of truth Lord, confound the deceiver I pray...AMEN!)
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To: lula

Obama’s revenge is to allow as many illegals across the border as possible.
He is truly an enemy of our Republic. Unless we gain control of the WH with the right candidate we will not be able to undo his crimes. We don’t need an amnesty Pres.


5 posted on 08/13/2014 9:20:54 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: lula

“Is it just me, or anyone else think this just another ploy by the NYSlimes to incite anger towards the Tea Party to get their base worked up? Most Americans don’t like illegal immigration, not just conservatives.”

I think it’s settling in their minds that they threw the kitchen sink and still failed. I think Cantor’s loss truly turned the tide.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/tea-party-may-defeated-primaries-drives-republican-agenda/


6 posted on 08/13/2014 9:22:43 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: Oldexpat

I just wonder, except possibly Cruz, has a real shot at the WH who doesn’t support amnesty, no matter what they pretend and lie about during campaign time. The GOPe is going to push an illegal alien supporter, I don’t doubt, though they will try to lie and spin about it.


7 posted on 08/13/2014 9:28:54 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: cotton1706

If the TEA party movement wasn’t winning Bonehead Ryno and Obama would have their amnesty in place. The ONLY reason why there is no official wide open amnesty is us. Sure there is lots more to do but we have done a whole lot already. Yesterday we won a few more primaries in Minnesota and Connecticut.


8 posted on 08/13/2014 9:30:24 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: cotton1706

Actually I’d say they’re trying to stir the base but aren’t smart enough to know that many liberals don’t like seeing their beloved social programs bogged down by millions of illegals.


9 posted on 08/13/2014 9:30:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: cotton1706

I must have missed it.

What did we win?

Illegal immigration has never been worse.
Amnesty? You mean making the Federal government enforce the law? We’re losing that one too.


10 posted on 08/13/2014 9:31:05 AM PDT by kidd
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To: cotton1706

I worked for Niger on his Congressional campaign. He lost the primary to Crescent Hardy, a Rino with a huge bankruptcy problem (I did the op research). Typical GOPe suicide tactics, run a guy sure to fail just to put the Tea Party in its place.


11 posted on 08/13/2014 9:36:24 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: Ultima
They aren’t winning, they just aren’t losing as bad as they could be.

More importantly, we aren't doing like we are "supposed to" and like the GOP usually does: fight for a while, lose and then get quiet about it and accept the change as the new status quo to retreat from again. We were supposed to complain for a while, then accept it and find something else to fight over, like was done with the 1986 amnesty.

12 posted on 08/13/2014 9:37:09 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: KarlInOhio

You got that right. Republicans just try to slow down the left’s progress and usually eventually lose on every single issue.

They’re like a soccer team that refuses to score and just plays defense.


13 posted on 08/13/2014 9:39:27 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: cotton1706
A few days ago the New York Fish Wrap published an editorial calling for Osama Obama to legalize all the wet...ooops,can't say that...all the undocumented democrats (thank you,Jay Leno).In small print at they end they included a caveat...that not a single one of those 30 million will be allowed to settle in Alpine,NJ,Bedord or Scarsdale,NY or Darien,CT.
14 posted on 08/13/2014 9:50:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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To: cotton1706

On Capitol Hill, the Tea Party wing continues to drive the party’s agenda.

I wish that were true. At best, we’re holding ground. Why should it be such a battle to get the law enforced? The GOPe has been pushing amnesty for well over a decade.


15 posted on 08/13/2014 9:54:33 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Ultima

They’re like a soccer team that refuses to score and just plays defense.

The GOPe likes the Democrat’s Big Government agenda and wants them to win.


16 posted on 08/13/2014 9:56:03 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: cotton1706

Most polls that I have seen show a aproximately 70% of those polled NOT wanting amnesty.

I know it would be a lot to ask of the Slimes but if they did a little math it would be obvious that about 210 million people is very optimistic when calculating Tea Party numbers.


17 posted on 08/13/2014 9:59:22 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Ultima

Have the illegals stopped? Are we deporting the ones here? I doubt it. We have won nothing.


18 posted on 08/13/2014 10:00:37 AM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: cotton1706

EXCLUSIVE–SESSIONS: MELT DOWN SENATE’S PHONE LINES, FORCE REID TO ALLOW VOTE ON EXECUTIVE AMNESTY

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/12/Exclusive-Sessions-Obama-s-Planned-Executive-Amnesty-Must-Be-Stopped-Everyone-Needs-To-Call-Their-Senators


God bless Sen Jeff Sessions.


19 posted on 08/13/2014 10:01:25 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: cotton1706

How is the TEA Party winning the immigration fight?

Obama already won, they’re here and they are probably going to stay here and get welfare forever.

TEA Party can’t change that right now.


20 posted on 08/13/2014 10:05:32 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cotton1706
"legal status for immigrants in the country illegally"

Ponder that one.

21 posted on 08/13/2014 10:07:54 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: cotton1706
... but in every case they made the incumbents more conservative.

No, they just made the incumbents run more campaign ads claiming to be more conservative.

22 posted on 08/13/2014 10:10:27 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: stevio

If all these illegals were given American citizenship before the 2016 election but after the 2014 election, liberals would consider that a Tea Party “victory”.


23 posted on 08/13/2014 10:24:46 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: cotton1706

I’m not convinced that this can be credited to the tea party. There are a lot of Americans who are opposed to illegal immigration. May of them are Democrats.


24 posted on 08/13/2014 10:28:26 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: GeronL

“How is the TEA Party winning the immigration fight?”

My view is that they wanted to get ALL these people on the voter rolls before November, to counter our votes, republican votes, whatever. And then, THE RIGHT people could get elected, now and forever.

But they will not be on the voter rolls in November, at least not LEGALLY.

They tried everything possible with this thing. In 2006, they started in the Senate, and to appease the shaky ones, they passed the Secure Fence Act separately, then for Amnesty. Well, then it failed in the House. So having not gotten Amnesty, they defunded and gutted the Secure Fence Act, probably thinking that the flood would continue and FORCE the approval of Amnesty.

Then in 2007, they tried again, this time getting it through the House FIRST. But then it failed to get through the Senate.

We all know the story about last year. In the wake of the presidents reelection and the democrats keeping the senate, they were going to force Amnesty on the House republicans, by getting “70 votes in the Senate”. And they had their whisper campaign, that republicans couldn’t ever win unless they voted for Amnesty.

But we held the line, and it wasn’t passed in the House last year. The Obamacare/Shutdown took up lots of time. And we foiled the Establishment’s plan to pass it after the primaries by taking out their head schemer, Eric Cantor.

And now the issue is TOXIC to democrats. The supposed groundswell in support of Amnesty never happened and we forced the republicans to (despite themselves) not fall into the blame trap. Politicians will now be looking over their shoulders.

So bottom line, the Tea Party is winning the immigration fight by thwarting their desired legislation. The rest, welfare, etc., we’ll have to deal with.


25 posted on 08/13/2014 10:30:37 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: cotton1706

Win or lose makes no difference to Obama.He is set to bypass congress regardless of who is or who is not there and grant illegals the right to remain here by executive orders Obama does not seem to care what we voters want or don’t want. Obama has his own agenda and only cares about what Obama wants and how Obama wants it right now.His lame excuses that he always uses many times over-claiming it’s the right thing to do.We will see more of this in Obama’s last 2 years as Obama indicates he intends to bypass congress it’s the right thing to do to get what he wants and he wants it done right now


26 posted on 08/13/2014 10:32:05 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: cotton1706

For them to say this it must be horribly bad; we can’t rest in that...we have to be WAY vigilant against the cheating that will be worse than we could imagine...and illegals voting.


27 posted on 08/13/2014 10:56:51 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (We the people.)
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To: lula

Is it just me, or anyone else think this just another ploy by the NYSlimes to incite anger towards the Tea Party to get their base worked up?

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Oh, the NYT would never do such a thing, would they?


28 posted on 08/13/2014 10:58:37 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: cotton1706
I'm not sure I'd call it a victory, and I'm not sure the Tea Party is entirely to credit. What has happened is an attempt to portray the issue as a Children's Crusade that has been accompanied by a coordinated campaign to shuffle and hide the persons involved. "It's all about the children, trust us." What the Times should conclude out of this is that their, and the administration's, credibility is shot.
29 posted on 08/13/2014 11:05:23 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tonytitan

Even at that, and you have to assume they’re lying thru their teeth, it was fun to watch all those old GOPe horses sound like Goldwater Conservatives just to win their primaries. It was a thing of beauty. And surely there will be at least a few local folks holding them to their word. They most likely won’t get a second chance at double-X


30 posted on 08/13/2014 11:05:27 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: GeronL
Obama already won, they’re here and they are probably going to stay here and get welfare forever.

So if he does sign an executive order making 5-10 million illegals legal, can a new President reverse that EO? Then all these new "Obama citizens" will be rounded up by the new President and sent home? Hardly!

31 posted on 08/13/2014 11:05:57 AM PDT by thirst4truth (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil - it has no point.)
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To: DaxtonBrown

Since you are probably knowledgeable on this subject, please, please tell me which Tea Party organization is the best one for my support. We get countless mailers and phone calls from various groups claiming to be Tea Party.


32 posted on 08/13/2014 11:06:11 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: thirst4truth

EO’s can be withdrawn by a future President but are almost never are


33 posted on 08/13/2014 11:16:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cotton1706

We are winning because Americans don’t want it.
If the NYT listened to Americans, they would know this.


34 posted on 08/13/2014 11:18:02 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: cotton1706

I read this morning that a large number of the illegals are being sent to immigration court in NY, where the Obama appointed judge is approving 88% of the cases. New Yorkers are going to live it when the Hispanics displace the the Blacks in schools and in the hearts and minds of NY politicians.


35 posted on 08/13/2014 11:22:30 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
I read this morning that a large number of the illegals are being sent to immigration court in NY, where the Obama appointed judge is approving 88% of the cases. New Yorkers are going to live it when the Hispanics displace the the Blacks in schools and in the hearts and minds of NY politicians.

This is what I fear, what the left in this country is doing behind our backs so it can further their power in the future. I loathe these judges, who find their political party and ideology more important, than the Constitution they were sworn to uphold. I also loathe the media for the similar reasons as if they don't report this, it didn't happen. Americans don't find out what these corrupt people are doing behind our backs.

Serious question, can an Article V Convention be used to reign in politicians, judges, government officials, who willingly defy the Constitution to further their own party/ideology? I ask because government these days run by these very progressives in both parties seem to not want to hold anyone accountable to corruption against our Constitution.

CGato

36 posted on 08/13/2014 12:24:41 PM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: cotton1706
Nice deconstruction.

More solid proof is that the scared-**itless Dummycrat candidates are running hard-right----to dupe the voters into saving their seats. Voters need to be reminded that a vote for a Dummycrat meansthe WH ding-a-ling stays in power.

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THE FACTS ARE THESE: all the polls show voters leaning Repub b/c of their strong stance AGAINST amnesty....FAR above all other issues.

A LESSON IN LOSING Amnesty sucker Eric Cantor was publicly humiliated----dumped by the voters. Cantor's ill-fated campaign strategy was a lulu---he spent $5 million on TV about his opponent's positions----except that, voters liked what they heard and dumped Cantor in favor of his opponent.

IT WORKED TO DUMP CANTOR IT CAN WORK TO DUMP 2014 DUMMYCRATS----Dummycrats are lacerating Repubs claiming "only the Dems have the courage to stand up for what the American people want"---comprehensive immigration reform and the suckup "Dream Act."

OKAY, PATRIOTS, PASS IT ON-- Dummycrats publicly admit they are the imbeciles catering to the hordes at the border. Go for it---Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, blogs---this needs to go viral.

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TALKING POINTS---all the polls show voters leaning Repub
b/c of their strong stance against amnesty....FAR above all other issues.

PASS THE WORD--Duymmycrats are opposed to a pro-America border
bill----w/ provisions Obama claimed he, himself, wanted in US law.


37 posted on 08/13/2014 2:51:34 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Conservative Gato

Did you read the article about how the Kennett Square school district, in PA, is not a White minority school district? I used to live in that district.

What is happening is de facto busing. The Kennet Square had one acre zoning and Chadds Ford had two acre zoning, while I know that has been reduced, it didn’t change that much. The schools in the district have a ten out of ten rating, but the district is right next door to Chester, where the schools are probably failing. PA allows students from failing schools to go to any other school district that they choose, so they are choosing Kennet Square. The Kennet Square kids are going to private schools in Wilmington.

I wouldn’t be surprised in they are supplying bus transportation for these kids from Chester. That is how they are going to get around the failing school issue.


38 posted on 08/13/2014 3:04:27 PM PDT by Eva
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To: jmaroneps37
Yesterday we won a few more primaries in Minnesota and Connecticut.

FOLEY - SOMERS!

YES!!!!!!!

Another good day for 2A.

FReegards!

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39 posted on 08/13/2014 3:38:00 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: lula

You are right. The group that is against illegal immigration is not necessarily the same as the Tea Party group, and is actually a larger group. But the Tea Party does appreciate the support of our allies on this issue.


40 posted on 08/13/2014 3:51:30 PM PDT by Krusty (Liberal rhymes with miserable)
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To: Bigg Red

Just my opinion, but the national “Tea Party” groups have gotten too close to the Republican machine. Tea Party Express, for example. I support only local Tea Party groups like San Antonio Tea Party, and I support individual people that I like and individual action groups like Judicial Watch, Institute for Justice, etc. It is difficult to tell the real groups from the front groups, but try to find the ones that are not afraid to post an independent thought, one that might not be approved by the Republican Establishment, and choose groups that are actually getting stuff done (winning lawsuits, getting documents released using the Freedom of Information Act, etc).


41 posted on 08/13/2014 4:00:27 PM PDT by Krusty (Liberal rhymes with miserable)
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To: Conservative Gato
Serious question, can an Article V Convention be used to reign in politicians, judges, government officials, who willingly defy the Constitution

Yes, absolutely! An Article V Convention can allow us to pass an amendment that will allow us to recall judges, overturn their decisions, etc. I am pushing for a Convention of States resolution here in Texas.
42 posted on 08/13/2014 4:04:02 PM PDT by Krusty (Liberal rhymes with miserable)
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To: Krusty

Thanks for your remarks. It becomes very confusing.

Re Judicial Watch: The husband sends them money, but it seems like they sell our names to too many other organizations.


43 posted on 08/13/2014 4:36:37 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: thirst4truth

Yes they can and the right person WILL.


44 posted on 08/13/2014 4:50:00 PM PDT by Andy'smom (How many more acts of love can we take?)
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To: cotton1706

I did not know that Niger Innis is one of us. I’ve been a fan of him and his dad for many years.


45 posted on 08/13/2014 4:58:13 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: cotton1706

It’s not a tea party issue, it’s an American issue, something which these elitist up in the north east cannot understand.


46 posted on 08/13/2014 5:00:49 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: cripplecreek

There is a lot of stirring up their base lately .


47 posted on 08/13/2014 5:01:16 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DesertRhino

... and the diseases and pests they’re bringing along for the ride ... don’t forget about that “hot button” that may prove to be hot enough for the American people to understand just how “big a deal” the failure to secure our borders is.


48 posted on 08/13/2014 5:02:18 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: jmaroneps37

I noticed 1 of the Connecticut candidates took the FAIR pledge.

The average performance has been better. Especially the last 2 Senate primaries.

The terrible incumbents are getting 60% or less, ie. McConnell, Tillis, Rounds, Cornyn, Cochran and Lamar.

Conservatives: Risch got 80%, Scott got 90%, Inhofe got 87%.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/republicans-have-more-reason-than-ever-to-worry-about-primary-challenges/

In fact, the average share of the primary vote received by Republican incumbent senators so far this year is 73 percent. Not only is that lower than 2004 through 2008, when incumbents averaged 89 percent of the vote — it’s also lower than 2010 and 2012, the years when the tea party was supposedly in ascendency, when GOP incumbents got an average of 78 percent.


49 posted on 08/13/2014 5:53:27 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: jmaroneps37
Yesterday we won a few more primaries in Minnesota and Connecticut.

FOLEY - SOMERS!

YES!!!!!!!

Another good day for 2A.

FReegards!

 photo million-vet-march.jpg

50 posted on 08/13/2014 5:59:30 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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