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How Robin Williams 'fell off the wagon ... and demanded real alcohol instead of props' ...
The Daily Mail ^ | August 14, 2014 | J Gardner

Posted on 08/14/2014 9:42:44 AM PDT by EveningStar

How Robin Williams 'fell off the wagon on set of recent TV series and demanded real alcohol instead of props' - as Broadway theaters dim their lights for one minute in his memory

Robin Williams fell off the wagon not long before his suicide when he demanded real alcohol during shooting of his failed TV series, insiders say.

According to Page Six, the 63-year-old funnyman asked for booze during a scene shot inside an LA restaurant in May 2013 as he begrudgingly returned to the small screen in The Crazy Ones.

As more of the details of the tragic actors final years, months and days are revealed, Williams' old pals on Broadway paid tribute to the legend by dimming their marquees for one minute.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: addiction; alcoholism; robinwilliams
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1 posted on 08/14/2014 9:42:44 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
There's no such thing as a ‘’wagon’’. You get sober by being rigorously honest with yourself, admit that you are powerless over alcohol and that your life has become unmanageable and that you cannot get sober alone. Alcoholics Anonymous is the single most successful alcoholic recovery group on Earth. There is none better. It saved my ass from myself and it does so free of charge. All it asks is just to listen to the stories it's members tell,try and identify with what you hear as it may relate to you , and try to work the 12 Steps as suggested. If you feel it's not for you you're free to refund your misery at the door. Robin Williams was either unable or unwilling to to do what was suggested.If he was unable, well, it might be that he was just born that way. If he was unwilling then his pride got in the way. Pride goeth before a fall.
2 posted on 08/14/2014 9:58:08 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: EveningStar

I’m surprised he lasted as long as he did.


3 posted on 08/14/2014 10:06:17 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: jmacusa

Once I learned that Williams was drinking again, it didn’t surprise me that he committed suicide. Active alcoholics die ugly deaths. To me, Williams’ situation shows the tragedy of taking something as critical (to an alcoholic) as sobriety for granted after 20 years of sobriety. You don’t get sober and then everything is OK. You have to work at it year after year. But once you stop working at it, its easy to go back, with ugly results.


4 posted on 08/14/2014 10:06:26 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Which is the cause, and which is the effect? It’s not easy to tell.

People with mental health problems often self-medicate with alcohol, or street drugs. (Yes, that usually only makes things worse.)


5 posted on 08/14/2014 10:23:12 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Well you got right 99 and 9/10ths per cent friend which is more than most do.Good on you. You have to work at sobriety one day at a time because all anyone has, alcoholic or not is the 24 hours God gives us everyday. Williams was either unable or willing to that. The other dangerous fallacy is the ‘’relapse’’ bit. There is no such thing as a ‘’relapse’’. If I went out a drank right now after 24 years sober it’s because I’m still drinking and the previous 24 years was just me waiting to get the bartenders attention , as it were, or finding my car keys to drive to the liquor store.


6 posted on 08/14/2014 10:24:32 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

And some people with mental illness don’t drink at all.


7 posted on 08/14/2014 10:25:28 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Assuming that he was indeed sober for 20 years. The thought of having to do all the work all over again just to get sober again, couldn’t have helped his state of mind.


8 posted on 08/14/2014 10:26:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jmacusa

34 years sober and still respect the power alcohol could have over me, if I allowed it back in my life.


9 posted on 08/14/2014 10:26:20 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10,v 19)
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To: jmacusa
Alcoholics Anonymous is the single most successful alcoholic recovery group on Earth.

I believe you are correct.

But, according to my (ex) Son-in-law, who is recovered and clean for at least 10 years and who is very, very active in AA, the success rate is only 5 to 10 percent. That seems very low and, if true, very sad.

What is your experience? What percentage would you quote for an AA "success rate"?

10 posted on 08/14/2014 10:29:35 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: EveningStar

I thank God that the only things I’ve ever insisted on consuming in spite of knowing that they were bad for me are steak and chocolate.


11 posted on 08/14/2014 10:31:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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To: InterceptPoint

Couldn’t quote you an exact figure friend. Not once in 24 years have I ever again picked up a drink. But it would all come to nothing if I picked up a drink today. I just keep going back like they told me to. Don’t drink, go to meetings that’s what I do. But yes you’re correct, many don’t make it. But most do if they have the capacity to be honest.


12 posted on 08/14/2014 10:44:41 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Graybeard58

Amen to that. Alcohol. Cunning, baffling, insidious.


13 posted on 08/14/2014 10:45:48 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: EveningStar

It seems like Robin Williams was very angry. Many times depression is anger turned inwards. He was angry that he had to do shows he didn’t want to do because of his money situation. He was angry that his show was cancelled. Sadly it seems he made a lot of bad choices in his personal life. Anger unchecked is very dangerous.


14 posted on 08/14/2014 10:48:50 AM PDT by HangingTuff
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To: InterceptPoint

I was on a jury in a 1st degree murder trial. The killer met the victim at AA and they went drinking after the meeting. The shooting ensued afterwards.


15 posted on 08/14/2014 10:50:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: jmacusa

Oh wow so you continue to go to meetings? Forgive my ignorance I thought there would be a point where you wouldn’t have to, especially after decades of sobriety.


16 posted on 08/14/2014 10:51:54 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: jmacusa

AMEN to all that.

I’m a friend of Bill W. I found AA meetings and living the 12 steps better than “AL anon” for me so that’s where I went every Friday for many many years. It was also helpful and supportive for my brother who is an alcoholic.

There is nothing better than AA. And it is typically PRIDE that keeps someone away.


17 posted on 08/14/2014 10:56:03 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: FourtySeven

It’s when you stop going to meetings that the trouble starts. An alcoholic alone is in a bad neighborhood.


18 posted on 08/14/2014 10:56:17 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: FourtySeven

Not only for your own good...but for the good of others.


19 posted on 08/14/2014 10:59:49 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: jmacusa

“alcoholism” or drug addiction is escapism from life circumstances someone is unhappy with, cannot see how to change, has trouble adjusting to, has ill feelings about the whole thing such that they want to drown the feelings in the escape into the effects of drugs or alcohol

what comes first is a set of life circumstances, not a drug or alcohol

what has to still be resolved even if/when the drug/alcohol can be kicked is the inability to cope that started it all

many people have and end with the same root problem without ever giving in to alcohol or drugs; they are no happier than the alcoholic or the drug addict, they just did not add that problem to their life’s issues


20 posted on 08/14/2014 11:16:30 AM PDT by Wuli
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