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How Congress Helped Create Ferguson’s Militarized Police
National Journal ^ | August 14th, 2014 | By Emma Roller

Posted on 08/14/2014 7:39:39 PM PDT by Mariner

August 14, 2014 Since 2006, the Pentagon has distributed 432 mine-resistant armored vehicles to local police departments. It has also doled out more than 400 other armored vehicles, 500 aircraft, and 93,000 machine guns.

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KEYWORDS: ferguson; mikebrown
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Just since 2006. And this does not include funds transfers from Federal LEO/Agencies.

It's too much.

We cannot be a free people with a Standing Army in our neighborhoods and on our streets.

Tacticool has become VERY dangerous.

Defund your local LEO and protect yourself.

1 posted on 08/14/2014 7:39:39 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner

did they help create the feral rioters and looters too?


2 posted on 08/14/2014 7:41:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

No. They were created by TANF, SSI, EITC, SNAP, ADC, SS Disability, Welfare, etc.


3 posted on 08/14/2014 7:45:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Mariner
Unfortunately, some police departments need serious hardware these days. Now, small town police departments don't need MRAPS and so forth, but in a place like Ferguson, thick with violent gang types and other assorted trash, the its a different story. Its a sign of the times. Would the police be able to keep the riots at bay if they didn't have some intimidating deterrent force?
4 posted on 08/14/2014 7:46:42 PM PDT by Wyrd biš ful aręd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Mariner

What are the BILLIONS of ammo they’ve been buying up FOR..?

I think they should sell it off —they should have the minimum, and maybe a little more.

This is nuts.


5 posted on 08/14/2014 7:48:26 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: GeronL
There were far more feral rioters in the 60's.

By orders of magnitude.

Of course then SWAT didn't do no-knock for routine drug possession and cops didn't have M113 APCs.

You think they will limit the application of those toys to the ghetto?

Dream on.

6 posted on 08/14/2014 7:49:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

If the Police had of stayed away Ferguson would be gone by now ,a little taste of ISIS in Iraq


7 posted on 08/14/2014 7:49:10 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Mariner

Every congress person is an enemy of the people. I want one congress jerk to explain to me why local cops need mine resistant vehicles. Why not sell them to our allies?


8 posted on 08/14/2014 7:50:22 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Mariner

Another viewpoint: It was nice of the government to place all that useful hardware in local places so the patriots can commandeer it easily when the time comes to purge the country of the tyrants and their minions.


9 posted on 08/14/2014 7:50:52 PM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: VerySadAmerican

...” explain to me why local cops need mine resistant vehicles”......

Because they know things we don’t and won’t.


10 posted on 08/14/2014 7:51:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: Wyrd biư ful arƦd

There were riots all over the country when MLK was killed. The cops didn’t need tanks. Let the idiots burn their own cities down. Plus, you actually believe the Ferguson cops need MRAPs to fend off those protesters? Bring out the fire hoses.


11 posted on 08/14/2014 7:52:07 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: caww

They SHOULDN’T know things we don’t know. That’s the problem!


12 posted on 08/14/2014 7:53:06 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Mariner

The armoured vehicles are meant for the Bible and gun owners.


13 posted on 08/14/2014 7:53:07 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: ArtDodger
"Another viewpoint:"

Problem is all these local LEO OWE Feds big time.

14 posted on 08/14/2014 7:54:00 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ArtDodger

The government is putting all this equipment into place for that “civilian army” Obama promised in 2008. And don’t think the cops will be on the side of the people.


15 posted on 08/14/2014 7:54:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: ArtDodger

.....”nice of the government to place all that useful hardware in local places so the patriots can commandeer it easily when the time comes to purge the country of the tyrants and their minions”.....

The M.E nations have certainly taken advantage of that and simply planned out their missions while they kept an eye on where all the goods were.....then ol’ ISIS went for the gold...the banks and everything else.


16 posted on 08/14/2014 7:54:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: VerySadAmerican

the military vehicles were there for the Intimidation factor


17 posted on 08/14/2014 7:54:35 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: VerySadAmerican
...”They SHOULDN’T know things we don’t know. That’s the problem!”.....

Well, remember when ol’ Snowden let the cat out of the bag for real, though everybody knew pretty much the stuff was going on anyway..... The outcry was deafening.

So of course anything which might shake up the nations people is not going to be broad-casted no matter how much you want to know the “for real” stuff. We know...we just want it “published”.

18 posted on 08/14/2014 7:57:58 PM PDT by caww
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To: VerySadAmerican

Yes, there were riots and the police were out in the streets with helmets and rifles, trading shots with rioters. I didn’t say the police needs MRAPs — rather, what people might call a “militarized police force,” as opposed to some mick walking the beat with a billy club, is necessary in some places in America these days. Sad but true.


19 posted on 08/14/2014 8:03:05 PM PDT by Wyrd biš ful aręd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: ArtDodger

I like that type of thinking. Good on ya!


20 posted on 08/14/2014 8:07:47 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Mariner

Interesting. My local news is reporting on this right now in Columbus OH. The sheriff of a local county just said that militarized equipment and armored vehicles were offered to them, virtually free, by the Department of Defense. They took them and with hardly any cost to the county. Why in the hell is the federal government supplying locals with this type of equipment?


21 posted on 08/14/2014 8:08:20 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Mariner

I’m reading reports now since the non-camo wearing, non MG pointing state police have taken over, things are starting to quiet down a bit. Tacticool is way over done by police. Police shouldn’t have guns anymore. They don’t know what they’re doing. That’s the real sign of the times - the stupid.


22 posted on 08/14/2014 8:12:25 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Sorry, just the existence of those benefits programs DID NOT create them. That was in their makeup as citizens and persons.
If anything made them the family environment and the schools created them. They actually with their actions have opted out of society and their wish should be granted to them.
All rabid wild animals should be removed. How ever it is possible it needs to be done 'cause it is necessary to maintain society.
It was/is their choice.
23 posted on 08/14/2014 8:13:30 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Unfortunately chances are the rioting will spread to other peaceful places.


24 posted on 08/14/2014 8:17:27 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: molson209
The current Obama admin would push for giving them statehood and diplomatic standing here and in the UN.
25 posted on 08/14/2014 8:17:32 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Mariner
Here's a (recruitment?) video that is reported to have been on the main page of the Doraville, GA police department website:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kajhu7qgojU

Be sure to have your sound on. You don't want to miss the soundtrack.

Doraville has a population of 8,500.

26 posted on 08/14/2014 8:17:40 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
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To: Wyrd biư ful arƦd

Ok.but there are 93,000 machine guns out there. I don’t see the need for police to have them, that’s all.
I’ll bet they have more than what has been listed


27 posted on 08/14/2014 8:18:34 PM PDT by reefdiver (The fool says there is no God. And the bigger fools sees direct evidence and rages against it.)
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To: JSteff

^Exactly; I’m on SSD right now and I’m not pulling an ounce of the stuff that they are. I’m building my own business and staying to my own routine. Frankly put, it’s nature.


28 posted on 08/14/2014 8:19:04 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister (I am NOT going to force a man to make my dreams come true)
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To: VerySadAmerican

As the muslim brotherhood showed, the Obama admin would give them several billion $$$ and some F-16’s.


29 posted on 08/14/2014 8:19:56 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Mariner; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

30 posted on 08/14/2014 8:23:07 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Mariner

Just this evening I came upon, in the opposite lane, what looked like a very minor fender bender. The two civilian vehicles that had been involved in the incident were surrounded by county squad cars, blue lights flashing, and officers all over the place dressed as if they were about to take a spacewalk.

I kept driving, but felt very intimidated by the scene.


31 posted on 08/14/2014 8:30:38 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Mariner

the problem in ferguson is not the police

It’s black culture and the criminal underclass it creates in hundreds of cities and suburbs across America.

Jeez If you’re on the same side of this as Jesse and al then you F-ed up somewhere, big time. Think again dummy.


32 posted on 08/14/2014 8:33:26 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Orwell's writings were meant as warnings, but to the left they are instruction manuals.)
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To: TChad

lol...that is frigging ridiculous.


33 posted on 08/14/2014 8:36:13 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: Huskrrrr

What a silly statement. Explain that.


34 posted on 08/14/2014 8:36:51 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: Wyrd biư ful arƦd
Unfortunately, some police departments need serious hardware these days.

1. Is the average law-abiding citizen allowed to be armed with the same weapons?

2. If the answer is 'no', then who will enforce those laws against the law-abiding, and what 'hardware' will they use to enforce them?

35 posted on 08/14/2014 8:43:41 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Let’s get rid of all the cops and let jesse, Al, and the new black panther party protect us. That will go well.


36 posted on 08/14/2014 8:51:25 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (Orwell's writings were meant as warnings, but to the left they are instruction manuals.)
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To: Mariner

The Federal Department of Civilian Control depends on overwhelming numbers and force. If three disobedience events happen at the same time, it will fall apart. As soon as the masses of underpaid welfare recipients learn this fact, they will apply the “pile on” tactic. It may already be happening, judging by the way the FDCC has been attacking the press.


37 posted on 08/14/2014 8:58:04 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Cubs Fan
RIte Awn..RIte Awn

Peace through T SHIRTS


38 posted on 08/14/2014 9:01:43 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: MeshugeMikey

photoshopped hoodie?


39 posted on 08/14/2014 9:04:06 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

ha ha nice


40 posted on 08/14/2014 9:07:47 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (If you're on the same side of Ferguson as Al and Jesse, then you F-ed up, big time. Rethink it dummy)
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To: JSteff

We conservatives (Bible owners and gun owners) are the enemy of Obama. We’re the reason our federal government is paranoid and stockpiling weapons and ammo. Not silly.


41 posted on 08/14/2014 9:15:09 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Cubs Fan

So do you think the average citizen should have the right to the same firearms as police?


42 posted on 08/14/2014 9:18:03 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
As far as weapons, body armor, gear, I think citizens can access most of the same stuff, save that legally acquiring automatic weapons and grenades/launchers/ordinance can be difficult/impossible.
43 posted on 08/14/2014 9:24:30 PM PDT by Wyrd biš ful aręd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: reefdiver

I agree.


44 posted on 08/14/2014 9:28:33 PM PDT by Wyrd biš ful aręd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Cubs Fan; Mariner

You realize that be can be wrong, yes?


45 posted on 08/14/2014 9:49:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Cubs Fan

Amen. I’ve seen shows like “The First 48” etc. Certain elements of black culture are feral. Unlike a tea party pretest a few officers showing up and politely saying, “please stay on the sidewalk and out of the road” is all that is needed. Say that to a mob of feral youth and it will take dozes of officers very quickly. All they understand is violence and intimidation.


46 posted on 08/14/2014 11:50:50 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Marine

And the multitude of shipping containers go uninspected.


47 posted on 08/15/2014 12:40:20 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Toespi

“Why in the hell is the federal government supplying locals with this type of equipment?”

The Obama regime is dismantling our military and building up the civilian force.


48 posted on 08/15/2014 12:42:31 AM PDT by ChicagahAl (Don't blame me. I voted for Sarah.)
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To: GeronL
did they help create the feral rioters and looters too?

Then shoot them when they loot the Smithsonian or the Guggenheim, not the QuickTrip or the Walmart.

Apprehend them and try them in court.

We always said that the problem with Democrats was that they treat terrorism as criminal acts.

Why are we trying to treat criminal acts as terrorist attacks?

-PJ

49 posted on 08/15/2014 12:48:32 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Cubs Fan

Straw man argument. I’m guessing you’re a government knows best facist fanboy.


50 posted on 08/15/2014 1:11:23 AM PDT by Blackirish
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