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Angela Merkel Calls on Russia to Respond to Reports of Troops Moving Into Ukraine
WSJ ^ | 16 Aug 14 | Bertrand Benoit

Posted on 08/16/2014 1:26:21 PM PDT by elhombrelibre

BERLIN—German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Saturday called on Moscow to respond to reports that tanks and troops had crossed from Russia into eastern Ukraine in support of separatist rebels there.

Ms. Merkel discussed the reports and their confirmation by separatist leaders in a telephone conversation with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on Saturday, Steffen Seibert, Ms. Merkel's spokesman said in a statement.

The comments came as the foreign ministers of Germany, France, Ukraine and Russia were set to meet in Berlin on Sunday in a renewed attempt by Berlin to engineer a diplomatic solution to the crisis.

"The Chancellor said she expected the Russian government to comment on these reports and the statements of the separatists," Mr. Seibert said.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: ukraine

1 posted on 08/16/2014 1:26:21 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Or what?

Send a sternly worded email?


2 posted on 08/16/2014 1:28:32 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: elhombrelibre

Well, let’s see...who owns most of the natural gas?


3 posted on 08/16/2014 1:35:18 PM PDT by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Biden says Russia's actions in Ukraine not humanitarian
4 posted on 08/16/2014 1:36:28 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: 2banana

Arm the Ukrainians, perhaps.


5 posted on 08/16/2014 1:37:39 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

But what bi-dent didn’t say was obamma supports putiies cause..


6 posted on 08/16/2014 1:39:08 PM PDT by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: aces

I tend to believe you, but then why do some FReepers support Putin, eh?


7 posted on 08/16/2014 1:42:44 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre
said she expected the Russian government to comment on these reports

Yeah, well, I expect the Grand Kenyan to climb out of his golf cart and act like he cares, but which do you think will happen first?

8 posted on 08/16/2014 1:46:11 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Don’t know...


9 posted on 08/16/2014 1:47:00 PM PDT by aces (Jesus Saves not Society)
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To: 2banana

Oh yes, stern warnings from Merkel and Obummer will stop Putin in his tracks! /S


10 posted on 08/16/2014 1:48:26 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Because Freepers admire a strong leader?


11 posted on 08/16/2014 1:49:43 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Since obama can’t lead, she will lead the free world.


12 posted on 08/16/2014 1:54:37 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: Linda Frances

Merkel can NOT lead.Her military is puny compared to Russia, China, USA, India, N. Korea, UK and even France.


13 posted on 08/16/2014 1:56:23 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Biden says Russia's actions in Ukraine not humanitarian

Oh for damn sake, Biden go back to sleep you ars.

14 posted on 08/16/2014 2:17:49 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: entropy12

Lots of leaders are strong. Genghis Khan was strong. Some of the Caesars were strong. What matters is not strength alone. A leader who is not principled and who is self serving is not a leader to be admired. A leader whose propaganda machine is anti-American is not one for conservatives to admire. A leader who was in the KGB for seventeen years and reached the grade of Colonel is not someone to be admired. A leader who supply arms to nitwits who shoot down unarmed civilian planes killing nearly 300 people is not to be admired. A leader who provokes confrontations with his neighbors is not one to be admired. A leader who has his political opponents killed is not one to be admired. I say anyone who admires Putin is either ignorant or indifferent to the values Americans hold sacred.


15 posted on 08/16/2014 2:21:54 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: entropy12

Merkel can NOT lead.Her military is puny compared to Russia, China, USA, India, N. Korea, UK and even France.


I know it’s sad isn’t it? A puny country is doing obamas job because he can’t.


16 posted on 08/16/2014 2:23:45 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: elhombrelibre

“I tend to believe you, but then why do some FReepers support Putin, eh?”

They like men who go around bare chested. I’m just saying. . .


17 posted on 08/16/2014 2:28:04 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: entropy12

FReepers don’t admire our murderous tyrannical foreign enemies. People who admire Putin aren’t Freepers. They’re scum.


18 posted on 08/16/2014 2:37:04 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: vladimir998
They like men who go around bare chested. I’m just saying. . .

Shirtless. Putin on a Ritz.

19 posted on 08/16/2014 2:38:53 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: elhombrelibre
A leader who supply arms to nitwits who shoot down unarmed civilian planes killing nearly 300 people is not to be admired. A leader who provokes confrontations with his neighbors is not one to be admired. A leader who has his political opponents killed is not one to be admired. I say anyone who admires Putin is either ignorant or indifferent to the values Americans hold sacred.<\i>

Whenever anyone says anything positive about Putin, there is a cadre of posters who will be quick with the 'Putin catamite' insults.

That said, I will venture some comments.

It is unfortunate what happened to the Malaysian passenger airliner. The Russian backed rebels screwed up. It Is unfortunate that we took down that Iranian passenger airliner in the Gulf of Hormuz. We screwed up. The Iranians were talking 'smack' like usual, and we mistook the passenger plane for an attack. Bad stuff happens near war zones.

Russia is not going to give up Crimea. That was never in the cards.

Putin at least says some positive things about Christianity. Whether he believes them or not, I have some doubts, but show me one other leader in the West that will actually mutter some positive words about Christianity.

Putin stands up against open Sodomites. Show me one other leader in the West who is not bending over to praise this abominable plague. Uganda maybe, but no European or American leaders.

And yes, I believe Russia supported the 'good' (or at least, 'better') guys in Libya and Syria. Our Government, on the other hand, seems to have some love affair with the Muslim Brotherhood.

So sure, Putin may be a Capital A-Hole, with nefarious designs - but yes, I have no problem praising him for various actions.

20 posted on 08/16/2014 2:52:33 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: El Cid

Since you feel that way, why don’t you leave western civilization and go to Russia? We won’t miss you.


21 posted on 08/16/2014 2:55:26 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: entropy12
Because Freepers admire a strong leader?

Putin is a mass murderer, thief and bully, like Stalin whom he admires. I don't know of any Freepers who admire Stalin or Hitler even if they seem bloody, bold and resolute. By the way, Putin is pretty short. I've always noticed that all these "strong" dictators are always short or effeminate in some way.

22 posted on 08/16/2014 3:17:46 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: El Cid
Putin stands up against open Sodomites.

This is one of the reasons why our movement is so easily manipulated. Human beings value the appearance over substance. Case in point, I remember when seemingly rational conservatives started pimping for Romney when, a week or two weeks before, they hated his guts, and after his loss, they returned to hating him again, as if nothing happened.

In Russia, youngish conscripts are routinely raped by their superior officers as part of their hazing, sometimes literally pimped out as prostitutes (they blackmail them with photographs of the rape, things like that), and all of this is protected by the regime.

Russia is a country where Communist agents and self-proclaimed National Bolsheviks masquerade as "Orthodox Nationalists" and use Christianity to damn capitalism and democracy.

If you spent 5 seconds thinking clearly and examining what reality is, you would not get so easily fooled by the mere appearance of a thing.

23 posted on 08/16/2014 3:22:05 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Sequestration and Obama's policies have decimated the US military.

Get ready for world chaos, because it is coming.

24 posted on 08/16/2014 3:56:18 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: FreeReign

Heh, I thought this was funny and that was before I READ THE BOTTOM LINE!! Jeez that’s funny. KGB be lookin you up soon...


25 posted on 08/16/2014 3:59:55 PM PDT by refermech
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To: El Cid
It is unfortunate what happened to the Malaysian passenger airliner. The Russian backed rebels screwed up. It Is unfortunate that we took down that Iranian passenger airliner in the Gulf of Hormuz.

Don't forget the Israeli shoot down of the Libyan airliner killing 108 innocents in 1973 or the Soviet shoot down of of the KAL 747 in assassinating Congressman Larry McDonald.

A likely shootdown of a Russian passenger plane by the Ukrainians occurred in 2001 - you don't see the Sorosites talking about that one. And then there is the alleged French shootdown of an Italian airliner in 1980 - but one needs a good tinfoil hat for that last one.

26 posted on 08/16/2014 5:07:09 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Linda Frances

No question....Obama is all about politics.
He is not even close to being a statesman.


27 posted on 08/16/2014 7:20:06 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: elhombrelibre; Greetings_Puny_Humans; Tailgunner Joe

My comment was based on leaders who us admired by their own people. Putin has high approval in Russia. Germans were proud of Hitler. Stalin was looked up to by Russians.

You are correct in that a strong leader is not necessarily a good leader.

However some Freepers might admire Putin simply because he is making Obama look weak, which he certainly is. Obama is all about politics. And he rather be playing golf than play leader.


28 posted on 08/16/2014 7:27:35 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: entropy12

I think that we don’t need a foreign despot to show us Obama is weak. Part of the reason I didn’t want Obama as president is because I knew he was weak and naïve. Now, it’s odd to me that some people take delight in being proved right, if they agreed with me, unless they actually want a weak president or they want US interests harmed for a long time. I realize for some of the people on FReeRepublic what they want is Russia to reestablish its hegemony. They want a Russian Empire. They believe Russian can even eliminate male homosexuality. Even though, as was stated above, rape in the Soviet/Russian/Putin army is a commonplace, these folks think Putin is unaware of it and keen to stop fags. On another note, abortion is very common in Russia. But Mr. Phony Conservative Putin, who could eliminate it with a ukase chooses to do nothing about it. Likewise I don’t believe he’s very concerned, really, about queers.


29 posted on 08/16/2014 11:41:35 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: elhombrelibre

I am sure you understand the Obama MO....
Do nothing to cause political controversy.
He cleverly exploited country’s dis-satisfaction with
Iraq war and making Bush43 the villain.

I agree we already know Obummer is a weakling on many issues. Putin is exposing his weakness for the whole world to see and playing him like a fiddle. If I was a Russian, I would be happy and proud to see Putin acquired Crimea for almost free. If Putin steals Ukraine, he will be a huge hero in Russia.


30 posted on 08/17/2014 1:52:59 PM PDT by entropy12 (Obummer = worst & dumbest president ever, any republican would be much better.)
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To: entropy12

He’s a disaster.


31 posted on 08/17/2014 2:10:41 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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