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Israelís Quiet Doomsday Submarines Almost Are Ready
War is Boring ^ | August 17, 2014 | Robert Beckhusen

Posted on 08/17/2014 9:52:41 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

‘Dolphin II’ class nearing completion

The Israeli navy is a bit of an odd duck. It’s designed largely for coastal and eastern Mediterranean warfare. But among all of Israel’s small corvettes and missile boats are some some seriously mighty submarines.

Israel is also investing heavily in growing its submarine fleet. It’s a reflection of Tel Aviv’s increasing reliance on the underwater boats for a range of operations — including nuclear deterrence.

Right now, three Dolphin II-class submarines are under construction at Germany’s ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems shipyards in Kiel. Once the submarines complete their trials and head towards the Mediterranean, they will become the most powerful Israeli submarines ever.

More than 225 feet long, the diesel-electric Dolphin II class is part attack submarine, part nuclear strike ship and part commando taxi.

They’re also painted in an unusual combination of black, blue and green colors. That’s “meant to make the ship less visible, and thought to be especially effective in Mediterranean waters,” Defense News noted after recently publishing new photographs of the fat, oddly-shaped boats in dry dock and on sea trials.

In terms of weapons, the three boats of the Dolphin II class—the Tannin, Rahav and a third unnamed submarine—contain 10 torpedo tubes capable of launching fiber optic cable-guided DM-2A4 torpedoes.

Four of these tubes are larger 26-inch tubes—the size is rare for a Western-built submarine—capable of launching small commando teams or firing larger cruise missiles. The remaining six tubes measure at 21 inches.

Although not admitted by the Israeli government, the Dolphin II is widely believed to soon possess nuclear-tipped Popeye Turbo cruise missiles. The submarine’s armament includes non-nuclear anti-ship Harpoon and anti-helicopter Triton missiles.

In 2012, German news magazine Der Spiegel interviewed several German defense ministry officials, all of whom were under the assumption that Israel intends for these submarines to carry nuclear weapons. The missiles can also be launched “using a previously secret hydraulic ejection system,” the magazine reported.

The photographs at Defense News also reveal horizontal planes for trailing communications gear and sonar buoys. But the classified propeller is covered by a tarp to keep out prying eyes.

Israeli sailors aboard a ‘Dolphin’-class submarine on Nov. 29, 2011. Israel Defense Forces photo

For sensors, the Dolphin II comes with the German-made CSU-90 active radar, a PRS-3 passive ranging sonar and a FAS-3 flank sonar. These sensors are in addition to an Israeli-made surface search radar.

Of course, submarines need to be stealthy—and the Dolphin II is indeed quiet. The trick is in the submarine’s air-independent propulsion fuel cells, which provide power under the surface as the diesel engines—used for running on the surface—rest and recharge.

This system is quieter than the nuclear-powered engines on American and Russian submarines, which must constantly circulate engine coolant. Nuclear submarines are virtually unlimited in terms of range, and are better used for deep-water operations. But Israel has no need for nuclear-powered subs when quiet diesel subs can do the same job.

The Dolphin II’s top speed maxes out at 20 knots when submerged. But the maximum distance before needing to be refueled is around 9,200 miles at a speed of eight knots underwater. This puts the submarines in range of Iran.

And that’s why Israel is investing in an up-armed submarine fleet. The Israeli military wants to maintain its undeclared nuclear strike force. Given Israel’s small size, a nuclear deterrent promises massive retaliation if Israel’s homeland is threatened.

Plus, submarines are very useful for littoral operations off the Gaza Strip and Lebanon.

Israel has also boosted its submarines’ operational tempo. In 2013, Israeli submarines spent 58 percent of their time at sea compared to 36 percent from 2010 to 2012, according to the Times of Israel. This not only included secretive missions off Lebanon, but “deployments lasting several weeks that took the submarines thousands of kilometers from Israel,” the paper reported.

In July 2013, a series of mysterious explosions occurred at the Syrian port of Latakia. Though Israeli aircraft were likely responsible for the attack—which targeted a shipment of Russian Yakhont anti-ship missiles—such operations can be carried out by submarines.

Now the Israeli navy will soon have the much more capable way to do it.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: idf; israel; submarine

1 posted on 08/17/2014 9:52:42 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
This is what I want on doomsday.

I have no idea what she's sitting on.

2 posted on 08/17/2014 9:59:40 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Great article! Thank you for posting.


3 posted on 08/17/2014 10:04:40 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Four of these tubes are larger 26-inch tubes—the size is rare for a Western-built submarine—capable of launching small commando teams

I suppose you could read that several ways: small dudes, or just a few of them, but still, small dudes.

Would take bigger huevos than I got to cram me into a 26" torpedo tube and launch me. What happened to escape trunks?

You got to assume their gear comes out later.

4 posted on 08/17/2014 10:05:27 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Now they will have a total of 6 nuclear capable subs. The folks who support Islamic proxy nations in wars against Israel , along with those doing the fighting will be targeted together if a Holocaust situation occurs for the Jewish state. God help them, because Mohammed isn’t God but rather some hyped up prophet... If I am right, then they can write me down as a prophet too someday;)


5 posted on 08/17/2014 10:21:10 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: sukhoi-30mki

All manner of Glory can be gained in combating EVIL(Islam) in a submarine..


6 posted on 08/17/2014 10:23:59 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
A nuclear scorpion's tail is exactly what Israel needs.

Iranians need to know, should they build the bomb and their government attack Israel, that after the counterattack, the largest concentration of living Iranians will reside in southern California. The ultimate in disproportionality: you squash Israel, Israel squashes you!

7 posted on 08/17/2014 10:35:13 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: sukhoi-30mki

ThyssenKrupp Ping !


8 posted on 08/17/2014 10:37:19 PM PDT by onona (My mind = gallimaufry)
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To: doorgunner69

I’m thinking someone was making a joke about the size of the tube and the reporter believed it.


9 posted on 08/17/2014 11:14:03 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: MaxMax

I know what She’s sitting on! Unfortunately, it’s not me.


10 posted on 08/18/2014 12:26:31 AM PDT by gigster (Cogito, Ergo, Ronaldus Magnus Conservatus)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“But the maximum distance before needing to be refueled is around 9,200 miles at a speed of eight knots underwater. This puts the submarines in range of Iran.”

Somehow short of range? The far smaller German Type 212 submarines have a range of 8,000 nm or 9,200 miles. The bigger Type 214 have a range of about 12,000 miles. The Dolphin class are even bigger than Type 214. I expect them to have a range of about 12,000 nm to reach the Persian Gulf unrefueled by traveling around Africa.

The small anti ASW helicopter missile is called IDAS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDAS_%28missile%29


11 posted on 08/18/2014 12:28:52 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Although not admitted by the Israeli government, the Dolphin II is widely believed to soon possess nuclear-tipped Popeye Turbo cruise missiles.

"SHALOM, MOTHER----ERS!"

12 posted on 08/18/2014 12:52:35 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Your Daddy Was Drunk and Your Mama Was Lonely" - http://youtu.be/4HYy62qiOwA)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
as the diesel engines—used for running on the surface—rest and recharge.

Diesel engines do not "recharge".

13 posted on 08/18/2014 8:04:49 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Moltke

Any idea why these subs aren’t nuclear powered?


14 posted on 08/18/2014 8:07:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

They run quieter - no coolant being constantly pumped around (so the article states).


15 posted on 08/18/2014 8:49:19 AM PDT by Moltke ("The Press, Watson, is a most valuable institution if you only know how to use it.")
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“’Nuke-Capable’ Stealth Submarine Sets Sail for Israel”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/184846#.VBcCLRaqLSQ

Videos are in reversed order.


16 posted on 09/15/2014 8:13:57 AM PDT by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: Jumper
Now they will have a total of 6 nuclear capable subs. The folks who support Islamic proxy nations in wars against Israel , along with those doing the fighting will be targeted together if a Holocaust situation occurs for the Jewish state.

In the situation you describe, and with the way this administration has behaved (and will behave), don't be terribly surprised if American assets come under Israeli nuclear attack.

17 posted on 09/15/2014 8:26:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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