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National Guard Ordered Onto Streets of Ferguson, Missouri
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Posted on 08/18/2014 12:17:02 AM PDT by TigerClaws

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To: TigerClaws

CNN all excited about a video released to them by a girl who says she is a witness. They keep re running it calling it breaking news, it only shows the scene afterwards with BIG MIKE in the street. She starts out by saying she really could not see all that well from were she was.

was pretty pathetic really


151 posted on 08/18/2014 6:26:44 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (Sarah Palin 2016 OR BUST)
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To: Biggirl

This midterms, the Dem voters will stay home in droves.

...the above post, and any other like it, is meaningless unless it is stated as opinion...

...otherwise, you’re starting to sound like you’ve got a crystal ball in front of you, while huckstering some gullible tourists...


152 posted on 08/18/2014 6:27:29 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: GeronL

The cops in this country DO need to be de-militarized. The national guard should have been called out as soon as the damn looting started.

This governor, like most politicians, is highly unqualified.

I am sick to death of the collective African, jungle, tribal mentality running feral in our streets. I’m even more sick of funding it.


153 posted on 08/18/2014 6:34:01 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: clintonh8r

Cap’n Johnson.....the poster boy for affirmative action hiring.

They showed him on TV marching in the street a few nights ago with a clenched fist in the air. Pathetic.


154 posted on 08/18/2014 6:34:10 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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To: Bullish

Unless they are an MP detachment.

My nephew is in one of them here in NY. He’s done one tour in Afghanistan so far.


155 posted on 08/18/2014 6:43:59 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: GeronL

The cops are over-militarized.

If the public can’t tell the cops from the military, the cops have too much stuff.

Let’s be real for a minute here on FR. WE HAVE BEEN complaining, watching, etc. the up-arming of the police with armored vehicles, drones, etc. and we complain ...we worry...and Ferguson demonstrates the public reaction when COPS are put on the street that look like faux military.

In fact, I’d lay odds it is all that equipment that lead the mayor, chief of police, and even the governor to be stupid about how much control they really had. The equipment made them feel over-confident about their ability to respond, which they have no ROE to use that equipment. The over-confidence escalated matters and delayed the governor’s response of calling in the National Guard.

I commented the other day when he put a 12-5am curfew out...what? I commented that was another dumb move. Curfew is dusk to dawn. There is absolutely no need for protests after dark.

This is a major mess and then you have the likes of Sharpton out there declaring a march on DC! What the heck? It is time to arrest such agents of violence.


156 posted on 08/18/2014 6:47:49 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: huldah1776

Its not a tiny town, its in St Louis. St Louis is made up of a bunch of towns. Ferguson is less than a mile from the St Louis airport.


157 posted on 08/18/2014 6:49:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: manc
Some want no cops and hate cops because they want their drugs legal, speed and cut people upon the road, have sex with anything, and do what ever they want.

We are descending deeper into the cesspool every week.
158 posted on 08/18/2014 7:00:32 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I guess that jerkwad Nixon figured if he put a black in position of authority he’d be home free. But then the guy stabbed him in the back by acting like one of the thugs instead of a LEO, proving once again that for blacks in America, race trumps everything.


159 posted on 08/18/2014 7:06:43 AM PDT by clintonh8r (It's possible to love your country and hate your government. I'm proof of it.)
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To: tacticalogic
Red, with patches of solid, bright blue in the major cities (STL and KC). Those blue patches are where the rioting will be, and where they’ll need enough Democrat votes to offset the voting from the more conservative suburban and rural areas.

This is true of almost every red state in the heartland. The urban areas are OWNED by the RATS. Why do you think they keep demanding changes to state election laws and want to eliminate the Electoral College?
160 posted on 08/18/2014 7:08:03 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: DouglasKC

Gov: “Given these deliberate, coordinated and intensifying violent attacks on lives and property in Ferguson,”

Early on he said his priorities were:

1. Safety of his police.
2. Safety of the rioters.

I must conclude that his last statement means he was not upset until the police were attacked.


161 posted on 08/18/2014 7:09:56 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TigerClaws

Have noticed a pattern. The rioters form lines and the Police form lines. The rioters advance and the Police ask the rioter to disperse. The rioters force confrontation and the Police respond. Once the Police respond the looting begins but not till the Police respond. Is as though the rioter want the Police to respond in order that the looting may begin. With perhaps the National Guard there to confront the rioters the Police will be able to respond to the looters?


162 posted on 08/18/2014 7:11:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: driftdiver
Yes, Ferguson is one the many municipalities that make up St. Louis County. It is part of "North County," much of which is basically an extension of north St. Louis city, and together they make up the most violent, crime-ridden part of the St. Louis area.

The Arch-angel Michael, aka Michelangelo, the Teenage Unarmed Gentle Giant


163 posted on 08/18/2014 7:12:11 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (St. Louis County)
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To: SVTCobra03
You do know that M16’s are not “machine guns”, right?Wrong.

Most M16 stamped receivers definately are machine guns, specifically/technically, "SELECT FIRE", true assult rifles.

I have three (3) of them on ATF form 3s.

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Colt M16A1: $22,000.00
M4gerty (Olympic Arms lower): $15,000.00.

Check out www.subguns.com for prices checks

There are even full-auto AR-15s from the factory for LEO.

MOST (99%+) AR-15s are full auto unless converted prior to May 19, 1986, or mfg after that from an 07/10 FFL with a Class 2 SOT.

164 posted on 08/18/2014 7:12:28 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: EBH

” The over-confidence escalated matters and delayed the governor’s response of calling in the National Guard.”

No. They went in with a ‘Hug a Thug’ campaign which went south in a hurry. Capt. Johnson said there would be no force by the police .... ‘we will talk to people doing wrong and ask them to be nice’.


165 posted on 08/18/2014 7:12:56 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TigerClaws

Good.


166 posted on 08/18/2014 7:15:20 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Biggirl

We’ll KNOW things have gotten serious if they start imposing marital law on the town...

;-)


167 posted on 08/18/2014 7:16:30 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: no-to-illegals

The tactic is being employed by the communists that have come to Ferguson. We have seen it many times over the last century and a half.


168 posted on 08/18/2014 7:19:10 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Never let a crisis go to waste.


169 posted on 08/18/2014 7:20:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TexasGator

No, they did that after the first night and complaints about militarized police surfaced...


170 posted on 08/18/2014 7:20:38 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: WayneS

Yep, and I am dating myself here, but I remember all too well what happened at one Kent State U. ;)


171 posted on 08/18/2014 7:22:53 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: EBH

“No, they did that after the first night and complaints about militarized police surfaced...”

Your time-line is wrong. The first night had little force out. The next nights had the local police and complaints. Then the Gov. came in with his ‘Hug-a’Thug’ campaign.


172 posted on 08/18/2014 7:23:25 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

Guess they get what they wished for.


173 posted on 08/18/2014 7:23:36 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: TigerClaws

What is interesting is how long it has taken the feds to move in compared to what took place with a few farmers and cowboys down in Vegas. I don’t recall any burnings or shootings by a bunch of low brow farmers. The feds were ready to take out the white folk at the drop of a hat.


174 posted on 08/18/2014 7:24:05 AM PDT by jetson
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To: EBH

Yep, and now that the NG has been called up, they will complain about that too.


175 posted on 08/18/2014 7:24:10 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: TexasGator

thank you for the correction to my timeline.

It also shows your comment was still off the mark.

I stand by my original remark. Over militarized police = over confident local gov’t. with improper ROE.


176 posted on 08/18/2014 7:27:35 AM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Biggirl
now that the NG has been called up, they will complain about that too.

Maybe is a pattern of History. Complain, force confrontation, complain some more, force additional confrontation. Neither side gives and then bloodshed begins. Seldom are complaints and confrontation a settling and a return to calm till one side or the other side wins? Seems so. Guess America has been lucky till now?

177 posted on 08/18/2014 7:31:42 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: TigerClaws

Well, well, well. “Hot Shot” Johnson from the state police couldn’t get it under control without doing the same thing the Ferguson police did. Now they actually believe these thugs are going to be afraid of the national guard? What will Nixon and the race hustlers do if the NG has to revert to force?

All it would take for this to stop is for Jesse and AL to march and ask everyone to let the case go through the system. And to get them to do that, tell them if they don’t they’ll be arrested for inciting violence. Jesse’s and AL’s days of getting themselves arrested are way behind them.


178 posted on 08/18/2014 7:35:17 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: TigerClaws

The black state trooper couldn’t stop it. A lot of the guardsmen will be black.


179 posted on 08/18/2014 7:36:11 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: EBH

“It also shows your comment was still off the mark.”

I stand by my comment.


180 posted on 08/18/2014 7:36:32 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: DaveA37

Completely agree!

Maybe have the guard backing up the police. If they are not careful, they are going to get another bro shot and then all hell is going to break loose all over the US.

Or, worse, some completely innocent young guard gal will get shot and killed.( Then EVERYBODY’s pissed not just the brothers!

Next thing you know we’re talking armed to the teeth Marines like happened in LA. And, lots of bodies!


181 posted on 08/18/2014 7:39:09 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Seeing someone attack a store owner would scare anyone, including me!


182 posted on 08/18/2014 7:41:00 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Kozak

The republicans are scared to death. That’s why you don’t hear them saying a word. They should do some pandering with Sharpton. They can’t do anything more to piss off their base than they’ve already done.


183 posted on 08/18/2014 7:41:06 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: RginTN
Obama and his hope and change was supposed to heal the land

The mob mentality of a certain segment of our society will never act with civility. Given the Sharptons and Jacksons of society, and the engrained self-oppression of a portion of the black community, this crap will happen over and over again.

184 posted on 08/18/2014 7:49:24 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The last time I was at a National Guard armory, I didn’t see many teenagers. The demographics of the Guard has changed substantially since Kent State. Remember, most of them have had at least one deployment to Iraq and/or Afghanistan.”

The ones posted in Longmont last year after the major floods here were all children; even the sargents were only very early 20’s. They struck me as fairly naive, uneducated, uncertain, untrained, and slightly fearful as well.

The other thing I realized is that they were NOT local, but were from cities far away. I realized that this was on purpose so that they would be less reluctant to shoot or mistreat the locals, since they would view the locals as villagers who were not the same kind of people at all as their own villagers.

Quite frankly, they scared the beejezus out of me every time I had to go through one of their checkpoints.


185 posted on 08/18/2014 8:13:52 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: TigerClaws

Can see calm being restored in this manner. National Guard wears the uniforms, Police plain clothes. National Guard disperses crowd, plain clothes Police (maybe light weight black jacket with Police on back) handle looters. There is a pattern. If was on the ground would take advantage of the pattern.


186 posted on 08/18/2014 8:19:58 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: TigerClaws

Tranquility.


187 posted on 08/18/2014 8:20:25 AM PDT by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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of course ... patterns do change and would be ready with B, C and D if force to modify tactics. Plan A is always the first failure.


188 posted on 08/18/2014 8:35:57 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: TigerClaws

Seems like a good time for the Marxists to cut off the EBT cards.


189 posted on 08/18/2014 8:40:51 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: DB

I think you mean you wouldn’t be surprised but I got your point ;)


190 posted on 08/18/2014 9:19:12 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: DB

...Aaanand I didn’t see this until after I posted. Language nazi....OUT!


191 posted on 08/18/2014 9:19:53 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: TigerClaws

These “people” are like the Palestinians to Israel. Attack and then blame the Israelis for defending.


192 posted on 08/18/2014 9:26:54 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
I’m hoping these riots spread to every State that has a Senate election in November. The Democrats will be Shiiteing bricks.

The Occupy riots really helps us in 2012, didn't they?

193 posted on 08/18/2014 9:28:05 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Truth29

“The Federal Government is the only body with enough resources to prevent incidents like what we saw in Ferguson from happening in your town....”


194 posted on 08/18/2014 9:33:48 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: EBH

rioting and looting in Ferguson happened before the cops put on the gear

what is going on there is not a reaction to the cops


195 posted on 08/18/2014 9:43:08 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Lil Flower

I totally agree with that


196 posted on 08/18/2014 9:44:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I don’t live there, I live here... Mexican Mafia members live in this street and I still oppose militarization of police


197 posted on 08/18/2014 9:49:25 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: expat1000

They can’t use APC’s and humvee’s too?


198 posted on 08/18/2014 9:50:09 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: TigerClaws
Now we’ll have 18,19 year old kids with machine guns standing guard over a mob cursing at them, throwing rocks, and the occasional Molotov cocktail.

What are you talking about?

I rather have the military out there playing military than our cops out there playing military...

I don't want the cops to be the military...

199 posted on 08/18/2014 10:09:36 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Bullish; GeronL

“The national guard ARE a military force.... they’re not police.”

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Either way I knew this was coming because they would not stop rioting. Now thing will be worse

Dead Kennedy’s “Riot”

Rioting, the unbeatable high
Adrenaline shoots your nerves to the sky
Everyone knows this town is gonna blow
And it’s all gonna blow right now

Now you can smash all the windows that you want
All you really need are some friends and a rock
Throwing a brick never felt so damn good
Smash more glass, scream with a laugh and wallow with the crowds, watch them kicking peoples’ ass

But you get to the place where the real slave drivers live
It’s walled off by the riot squad aiming guns right at your head
So you turn right around and play right into their hands
And set your own neighborhood burning to the ground instead

Riot, the unbeatable high
Riot, sends your nerves to the sky
Riot, playing right into their hands
Tomorrow you’re homeless, tonight it’s a blast

Get your kicks in quick, they’re calling the National Guard
Now could be your only chance to torch a police car
Climb the roof, kick the siren in and jump and yelp for joy
Quickly, dive back in the crowd, slip away now, don’t get caught

Let’s loot the spiffy hi-fi store
Grab as much as you can hold
Pray your full arms don’t fall off
Here comes the owner with a gun

Riot, the unbeatable high
Riot, sends your nerves to the sky
Riot, playing right into their hands
Tomorrow you’re homeless, tonight it’s a blast

The barricades spring up from nowhere
Cops in helmets line the lines
Shotguns prod into your bellies
The trigger fingers want an excuse now

The raging mob has lost its nerve
There’s more of us but who goes first?
No one dares to cross the line
The cops know that they’ve won

It’s all over but not quite
The pigs have just begun to fight
They club your heads, kick your teeth
Police can riot all that they please

Riot, the unbeatable high
Riot, sends your nerves to the sky
Riot, playing right into their hands
Tomorrow you’re homeless, tonight it’s a blast

Riot, the unbeatable high
Riot, sends your nerves to the sky
Riot, playing right into their hands

Tomorrow you’re homeless, tonight it’s a blast
Tomorrow you’re homeless, tonight it’s a blast
Tomorrow you’re homeless, tonight it’s a blast
Tomorrow you’re homeless, tonight it’s a blast

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dead+kennedys+riot+lyrics&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=F68F79290AA683A2230AF68F79290AA683A2230A


200 posted on 08/18/2014 10:18:11 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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