Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

America's Fall From the Stars
Townhall.com ^ | August 18, 2014 | John Nantz

Posted on 08/18/2014 7:18:47 AM PDT by Kaslin

Among nations peace is a pipe dream. Like the poor, war will always be with us. Sadly, peace is only the quick breath before the plunge. Nation states constantly wage wars of interest, economic skirmishes, philosophical firefights, scrabbling after power, gibbering for prestige, for resources, for territory, to fulfill a dictator’s lusts or a tyrants whim.

Progressives assert that man is essentially good, that all one must do is look for the good in others, the proverbial spark of Divinity that smolders somewhere. A casual perusal of one’s favorite news paper should dispel that fairytale like so many autumn leaves. But, the silly idea persists, shambling inside vacuous skulls, finding a rich playground of unintended consequence and good intention. It is a weed that grows and chokes common sense and coils its tendrils of pacifism, moral and political relativism, until its leaves extinguish even the understanding of experience.

Man is corrupted, as our founding fathers knew so well and articulated so beautifully. This was one of the presuppositions that produced the miracle of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It is also the same presupposition that makes it possible to assert American exceptionalism. As a matter of historical fact we, as a nation, have striven for liberty and that makes our cause noble, dare we say better, than other nations which have been founded on lesser principles. A spark of Divinity does not lurk within us but rather the brooding ember of evil. That ember is always ready to metastasize into flame, feeding itself on the seven deadly sins until war and murder rage among men and nations.

Americans may delude themselves into believing that America can just opt out of the ancient struggle but the rest of the world will just snicker into their sleeves and step over our slumbering bodies, having drowsily clambered onto our own pyre. The rest of the world is gleeful to strike the match. America learned that lesson during WWII. We slept and our enemies, emboldened by our passivity, struck Pearl Harbor. Decades have passed and we seem doomed to repeat the Progressivist error—to assume that we may reason with our fellow man’s higher lights; we beat our swords into plowshares while China, Russia, and the rabid Islamo-Nazi hone their glittering blades to a razor’s edge.

President John F. Kennedy, Jr. understood that the flame of liberty is delicate and that we must be preeminent among nations if we wish to preserve it and see it set the world aflame. President Kennedy articulated clearly that only by maintaining an unassailable stature can America preserve its liberty against the constant pressures of hostile regimes. The enemies we face today are no different that the evil empires of the Cold War. Nation states do not seek parity but avariciously scrabble tooth and nail for dominance. That is human history not a fiction spun in a Harvard faculty lounge.

America’s mission to the moon, its presence in space, had everything to do with displaying American greatness and inspiring citizens to strive after excellence. In essence, that’s the American dream to participate, as equal citizens before the law, in a system that rewards merit, courage, risk, achievement. The space program was also about flexing some muscle and humbling the Soviet Bear. Intimidation is an important tool but is useless without a demonstrable capability. The Soviets were first to orbit a man made object and President Kennedy was wise enough to understand that this could not stand. The threat was strategic but almost more importantly psychological.

Americans love a winner. We need winners. Second place is merely first loser. Among nations, second place is death. The mission to the moon wasn’t just an exercise in technological expertise, it was a declaration.

The Obama administration, with it’s collective head bulging with the putrid gas of Progressivism’s blotched corpse, seeks a flaccid parity among nations. President Kennedy urged us to excel and to do those things that were hard because they were hard. JFK knew that the American people were not just up to any challenge but were and are always energized by it. It is the hardness that makes the achievement and the conqueror great. It is the process that builds capability and lifts the man or nation above peers. Achievement is a moral positive; it is a moral imperative for to hide one’s talent in the dirt is to sin against the Creator who bestowed it.

Ours is a lineage of heroes and giants who transversed the terrors of seemly illimitable seas in slosh-bucket ships, bestrode a fierce and wild continent to hew out a civilization, and blasted across the face of the stars to dust their boots with lunar powder. A free people are not meant to join in the dusty, bent-backed line of history’s serfs. Whether we like it or not, the world expects the best from us; it expects leadership from us because America is that shining city on a hill. America glitters because we are bejeweled with truth.

We can be first again, the engine of liberty for the world, but we must first roll up our sleeves and burnish the jewels encrusting our founding documents which Obama and his imps have been busy tarnishing. We can be great again but we must eject the detritus of Progressivism and maybe reach out again for the stars.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: americafalling; g42

1 posted on 08/18/2014 7:18:47 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

Just saying...

Bring back jobs to America.


2 posted on 08/18/2014 7:19:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

“Progressives assert that man is essentially good”

This naïve assertion by liberals has gotten millions killed.


3 posted on 08/18/2014 7:22:12 AM PDT by headstamp 2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network; Kaslin; Toddsterpatriot

1. Cringing Negativism Network do you support free markets and free people?

2. Cringing Negativism Network do you support Right-to-Work movements in the United States?

3. Cringing Negativism Network would you support reducing taxes on capital gains, labor and corporations?

4. Cringing Negativism Network would you support reducing regulations on capital, labor and corporations to the levels of say Eisenhower’s Administration?

5. Cringing Negativism Network which President was better for America: Calvin Coolidge or Franklin D. Roosevelt? How about Jimmy Carter versus Ronald Reagan?


4 posted on 08/18/2014 7:30:23 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin
“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded — here and there, now and then — are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.

This is known as 'bad luck'.”
- Robert Heinlein

5 posted on 08/18/2014 7:34:02 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD

We clearly are on opposite sides of American jobs. You want to buy everything imported, mostly from China.

I seem to (currently) be in something of a minority. However America, and to an extent Free Republic, represent free speech and free ideas.

You have now complained several times to the moderator, to which I have not risen.

Yet you continue.

I will state my position one more time, very clearly. Just once, please pay attention:

Hire Americans.


6 posted on 08/18/2014 7:37:57 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: headstamp 2

“Progressives assert that man is essentially good”

Right. When one of these clowns spews this I always like to ask: ‘Do you have a lock on your door at home?’

They say: ‘Yes’....

‘Case closed’!


7 posted on 08/18/2014 7:40:03 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

We didn't fall, we were pushed!


8 posted on 08/18/2014 7:49:37 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Stop evading the questions. These are simple for any real FReeper to answer. Just answer with single words. No more dodging.

1. Cringing Negativism Network do you support free markets and free people?

2. Cringing Negativism Network do you support Right-to-Work movements in the United States?

3. Cringing Negativism Network would you support reducing taxes on capital gains, labor and corporations?

4. Cringing Negativism Network would you support reducing regulations on capital, labor and corporations to the levels of say Eisenhower’s Administration?

5. Cringing Negativism Network which President was better for America: Calvin Coolidge or Franklin D. Roosevelt? How about Jimmy Carter versus Ronald Reagan?


9 posted on 08/18/2014 7:54:23 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Paine in the Neck

bkmk


10 posted on 08/18/2014 7:55:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (SOUL BROTHER! This house is not armed! (Signs people thought would protect them in the 1960s))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD

Ok fair enough.

Do I support free markets and free people?

I support free people. 100%. I support free markets, to the extent those are reasonably possibly, to the extent that other countries reciprocate.

To the extent other countries do not reciprocate, I most definately do NOT support free markets, when we are competing against countries (such as China) which do not open their own markets to us in return.

China currently has the entire concept of “free” turned completely on its head.

As things stand now, I believe it is time to return businesses to America.

Now.

The other questions, I have no opinion on, so you’ll have to go without.

However I answered the first and biggest question. Stop selling out everything good about America, to a country which supports none of the qualities which make America a great nation.

Bring back jobs to America.


11 posted on 08/18/2014 8:01:37 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: SMARTY

Excellent retort!


12 posted on 08/18/2014 8:13:58 AM PDT by headstamp 2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

It’s incredible that you have no opinion on fundamental economic, political and conservative thought. I suspect that it is because you’re a Dem operative on deep cover here at FR. Do a little research and answer the questions below. You dodged, again.

Is the Right to Work good for America?

Are lower taxes good for America?

Is less regulation good for America?

These are basic questions and separate conservatives from progressives. Which are you?


13 posted on 08/18/2014 8:16:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

Did You Know?

The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarter's Expenses?

Now That You Do, Donate And Keep FR Running


14 posted on 08/18/2014 8:16:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

At the same time we have RINOs suing SpaceX for trivial matters to protect the public space programs in their home states.


15 posted on 08/18/2014 8:19:08 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Kaslin

When POTUS’s vision for the nation is to demolish all that the nation is, to tear down a nations culture and pride, the consequences are a demoralized society unable to stand up for what is right at home or abroad. This man, Obama, is systematically ruining a thing of beauty - the USA.


16 posted on 08/18/2014 8:40:22 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
As things stand now, I believe it is time to return businesses to America.

Now.

May I ask respectfully: how do you propose that 'we' (as a nation) do this?

The conservative way is reduce taxes and regulations, and encourage states to pass 'right to work' laws that limit the power of unions to leech off the fruits of productive labor and capital.

The leftist way is to prop up the unions, give special treatment to favored industries and employers, and to mouth demagoguery (sp?) about 'economic patriotism'.

Which side are you on?

17 posted on 08/18/2014 9:11:14 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

+


18 posted on 08/18/2014 10:29:27 AM PDT by Lexinom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD; Cringing Negativism Network
People that take an America-first posture, that call out what purports to be a "free market" as the sloped playfield that it is, that remember reading in history of an America that was able to manufacture its own boots, its own artillery, its own aircraft, its own supplies to free Europe from a maniacal tyrant and to topple a delusional empire in Japan - such Americans are Democrat operatives?

Really?

19 posted on 08/18/2014 10:35:09 AM PDT by Lexinom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
5. Cringing Negativism Network which President was better for America: Calvin Coolidge or Franklin D. Roosevelt? How about Jimmy Carter versus Ronald Reagan?

The other questions, I have no opinion on, so you’ll have to go without.

You've been on FR for over 9 years but you have no opinion on whether Reagan was a better President than Carter?

Even Obama isn't dumb enough to believe that. LOL!

20 posted on 08/18/2014 12:05:50 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD

1 yes
2 yes
3 yes
4 yes
5 Coolidge/Reagan

OK, I think I aced this quiz.


21 posted on 08/18/2014 3:18:31 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

The American heart has change,we lost our first love for God.


22 posted on 08/18/2014 5:36:21 PM PDT by primrose (w)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Lexinom; Cringing Negativism Network

You are much more articulate than CNN. I take an America-first posture, but it’s based on economic reality. I don’t like crony capitalism, but I know what a free market is and how it benefits America and Americans. The country you describe from the history of WW2 was built on free trade. It remains the world’s largest economy despite all the recent socialism.

That CNN won’t or cannot answer the most basic questions is odd. He simply cuts and pastes about China, but not Saudi Arabia, Germany, Canada, Mexico, etc. Take a look at these basic conservative questions and what would your answers be?

1. Do you support free markets and free people?

2. Do you support Right-to-Work movements in the United States?

3. Would you support reducing taxes on capital gains, labor and corporations?

4. Would you support reducing regulations on capital, labor and corporations to the levels of say Eisenhower’s Administration?

5. Which President was better for America: Calvin Coolidge or Franklin D. Roosevelt? How about Jimmy Carter versus Ronald Reagan?

The simple direct answer is yes to every one, Calvin Coolidge and Ronald Reagan. CNN won’t distinguish FDR and Jimmy Carter as bad for America? It won’t mention Right-to-Work as a conservative goal for America?

Something’s rotten with CNN. Don’t defend the indefensible. It’s a troll.


23 posted on 08/18/2014 5:45:50 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Nuc 1.1

Nice work. You are a conservative, just like every real FReeper. The answers are obvious to us, but not to liberals/progs.


24 posted on 08/18/2014 5:46:28 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Toddsterpatriot

OK you’re right.

Ronald Reagan was far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far, far

superior to Jimmy Carter.

(did I mention “far”)?_

But HIRE AMERICANS.


25 posted on 08/18/2014 6:35:18 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD

When you begin to show you are in favor of hiring Americans, you will have a bit of credibility.

Until then, hire Americans.

Americans.

Hire Americans.


26 posted on 08/18/2014 6:39:18 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Are you in favor of hiring Americans?


27 posted on 08/18/2014 8:18:31 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: primrose
We did.

We designate what is noble and right as evil, and what is detestable we celebrate.

We slander and even criminalize honest men on specious pretense imposed through populistic mob rule.

Like the people grumbling against the Lord in the desert, we seek our own ways and not His.

Turn us, our God.

Come quickly, Lord Jesus.

28 posted on 08/19/2014 12:42:10 AM PDT by Lexinom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network
Bring back jobs to America.

I too would like to see America live long and prosper.

But here are the facts:

Businesses go to where they can prosper.

Jobs are created by businesses, and they are created where the results and return on investment can be favorable to the businesses that create the jobs.

Right now, America is not that place for many businesses.

If we want America to be the best place for business again, we have to drastically change government policies, replace the tax structure, curb the regulatory structure, abolish destructive government agencies, repeal destructive legislation, etc., etc.

If we want to change American government for the better, we have to convince the voters to change their way of thinking. This must come first. You should know this.

29 posted on 08/19/2014 1:10:33 AM PDT by meadsjn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network; Toddsterpatriot

I don’t have to prove anything. I know how to improve the American economic landscape. You know about comparative advantage and absolute advantage and the benefits of free trade. You cannot answer the easy questions below:

1. Do you support free markets and free people?

2. Do you support Right-to-Work movements in the United States?

3. Would you support reducing taxes on capital gains, labor and corporations?

4. Would you support reducing regulations on capital, labor and corporations to the levels of say Eisenhower’s Administration?

5. Which President was better for America: Calvin Coolidge or Franklin D. Roosevelt? How about Jimmy Carter versus Ronald Reagan?

You’re a fake, a faux conservative, a wolf in sheep’s clothing and likely a union hack concern trolling on FR with your both parties blather. It’s the Democrat’s policies that have destroyed jobs, American jobs. That you cannot see that or admit to it is all the proof needed.


30 posted on 08/19/2014 5:03:14 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD

amen


31 posted on 08/19/2014 5:05:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD

I don’t agree.

It’s NOT JUST the Democrat’s policies that have “destroyed jobs, American jobs” as you say.

Both parties have abandoned American manufacturing.

Everyone is anti-American now. That is my point. Republicans need to stop selling out our very own nation, reel it in, and rebuild the United States of America.

Buy American, for a change.


32 posted on 08/19/2014 6:24:18 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network

Your collaboration has been on Free Republic for nearly a decade. In all that time you’ve not developed an opinion on the following questions:

1. Do you support free markets and free people?

2. Do you support Right-to-Work movements in the United States?

3. Would you support reducing taxes on capital gains, labor and corporations?

4. Would you support reducing regulations on capital, labor and corporations to the levels of say Eisenhower’s Administration?

5. Which President was better for America: Calvin Coolidge or Franklin D. Roosevelt? How about Jimmy Carter versus Ronald Reagan?

You keep dodging and answering in your standard mode. I asked you the above questions nearly hours ago. Did you do some research? Have you developed an opinion on these questions? Answer them.

Any real FReeper who wasn’t a Democrat plant would and if they didn’t know something they’d seek to learn it or research it. You’ve done neither. In over a decade on FR you’ve never developed an opinion of FDR, Right-to-Work, or Jimmy Carter?

It sticks in your craw because the entity with the pseudonym of Cringing Negativism Network is a Democrat operation to suppress the conservative vote. You cannot fault what you truly believe in.


33 posted on 08/19/2014 6:38:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD

Bring back American jobs.

Stop buying everything from China.


34 posted on 08/19/2014 6:40:11 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: Cringing Negativism Network; Jim Robinson

You’ve had nearly 23 hours since I first asked these simple, conservative-proving questions. You can stick to your Democrat talking points or you can come clean. Any legitimate FReeper wouldn’t have a moments hesitation answering these questions:

Who’s better, Carter or Reagan and FDR v. Coolidge?

Do you support Right-to-Work movements in the United States?

Would you support reducing taxes on capital gains, labor and corporations?

Would you support reducing regulations on capital, labor and corporations to the levels of say Eisenhower’s Administration?

You say you’re for American jobs, but you don’t know how to “bring them back”. Answer the above and learn.


35 posted on 08/19/2014 6:58:03 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: 1010RD
1. Do you support free markets and free people?

Yes.

2. Do you support Right-to-Work movements in the United States?

Yes, with the caveat that we locate evil and greed not in corporations, not in unions, not in government, but in the human heart, an evil which permeates all three.

3. Would you support reducing taxes on capital gains, labor and corporations?

This is a must if we are to continue to be a leader.

4. Would you support reducing regulations on capital, labor and corporations to the levels of say Eisenhower’s Administration?

Yes.

5. Which President was better for America: Calvin Coolidge or Franklin D. Roosevelt? How about Jimmy Carter versus Ronald Reagan?

Don't insult my intelligence...

Those questions are well and good, but I remain skeptical about the underlying conditions of uneven trade with, say, China. I suspect the problem is much larger than trade alone and more indicative of a cultural metanoia that has swept and shaped thought since the 1960s. Think "engineered obsolesce" and the shift away from honest days work for honest days pay toward maximization of profit at consumer's expense...

36 posted on 08/21/2014 5:00:06 PM PDT by Lexinom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson