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Confederate Flag Doesn't Fly With California Lawmakers
huffingtonpost.com ^ | 8/21/2014 | Lydia O'Connor

Posted on 08/24/2014 7:12:14 AM PDT by rktman

"No Californian should be exposed to the type of hate or threat of violence caused by the image of the Confederate flag," the bill's author, Assemblyman Isadore Hall III (D-Compton), said in a press release.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: California
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Leading to eventual removal from text books etc. According to the article the image will still be "permitted" there, at museum and educational facilities. For now. Thank you supreme government for protecting me. First amendment? We don't need no steenkin' first amendment. Only politically correct "free expression/speech" is allowed. Yup, rewriting history one day at time.
1 posted on 08/24/2014 7:12:14 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

It clashes with the black flag they support and you know how they are into color coordination.


2 posted on 08/24/2014 7:14:29 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: rktman
the type of hate or threat of violence caused by the image....

So portrayals of the hammer and sickle will be removed as well?

3 posted on 08/24/2014 7:14:48 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: rktman
"hate or threat of violence caused by the image of the Confederate flag"

Thanks Assemblyman! You acknowledge that those who show it are subject to everything from catcalls to punches, huh?

4 posted on 08/24/2014 7:15:09 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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Let me guess, the ISIS flag and the New black panthers flag would be fine to fly....

I’m seriously considering making a new purchase this weekend. A new flag.


5 posted on 08/24/2014 7:15:11 AM PDT by I_Publius
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To: the OlLine Rebel

So, how do you feel when you see an image of the lyin’ king? LOL! :>}


6 posted on 08/24/2014 7:17:33 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: rktman

There is no flag of hate greater than Kali’s right now.


7 posted on 08/24/2014 7:19:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: rktman

A flag with a bear and a red star doesn’t exactly fill me with warm feelings either.


8 posted on 08/24/2014 7:22:43 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: rktman

Considering that a good part of Californication was settled by Confederates, this is hilarious.

No indignant actions against yankee railroads who employed coolie labor for literally only food.

And the flag of Aztlan is flown proudly by these aholes, certainly. The ancient mexicans never had slaves, right. Only cocaine to work them to death without food.

You now have the new marxist order. Tax the marijuana in mendocino— and we who tax it are your masters. Can you hate while you’re stoned? sho nuff.


9 posted on 08/24/2014 7:23:30 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: rktman

Things do not offend,
People take offense.

When a person finds themselves offended
They should look to their own biases.


10 posted on 08/24/2014 7:23:54 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: rktman
This is a HUGE, HUGE issue for Californians right now! Never mind they can't wash their cars or water their grass. Something must be done about the epidemic of Confederate flags, and their message of hate and bigotry that are flying everywhere across the landscape.

As a state-employed pornography condom inspector, how am I supposed to do the much-needed work that the taxpayers of California are paying me to do when I am constantly exposed to this symbol of California's racist past?

What Californians need are MORE LAWS!!!

11 posted on 08/24/2014 7:25:51 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: rktman
Its not about equity with these groups. Its about domination.

Folks had better wise up.

12 posted on 08/24/2014 7:29:05 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Equality.


13 posted on 08/24/2014 7:29:17 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: HangnJudge

Odd isn’t it? What when I was a kid the old “Stick and stones” rhyme was often told to us. Now you need a dictionary of “offensive” words and phrases just to keep straight. Oops. I used the words “keep” and “straight” together. Does that somehow imply I don’t like “gay” people? Yup. That’s how stupid this has become. Redskins? No. Braves? Okay. Chiefs? Okay. Reds? Okay.


14 posted on 08/24/2014 7:29:50 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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Ya might want to stay out of South Carolina there issi!

https://www.google.com/search?noj=1&biw=1344&bih=696&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=south+carolina+capitol+building&oq=south+carolina+capitol+building&gs_l=img.3...22381.28291.0.28700.16.16.0.0.0.0.470.707.2-1j0j1.2.0....0...1c.1.52.img..14.2.706.fG6zcWnfink#facrc=0%3Bsouth%20carolina%20capitol%20building%20confederate%20flag&imgdii=_&imgrc=_


15 posted on 08/24/2014 7:32:19 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: rktman

“No Californian should be exposed to the type of hate or threat of violence caused by the image of the American flag,”

Well, you know that’s where they are going...


16 posted on 08/24/2014 7:32:46 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: HangnJudge

Oh, I don’t know. I’m offended by the ghetto culture rampant today. I guess then I’m biased against criminals, eh?!


17 posted on 08/24/2014 7:41:49 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: rktman

This is why the Democratic Party is absolutely useless when they waste their energy on issues like this. Californians are worried about their stagnant state economy, illegal immigration and impending water shortages but Assemblyman Hall feels the need to bring up a vital issue so important to that state, the Confederate flag? This guy is an idiot but it also points out the Democrats, regardless of the part of the country they reside in, are all playing the race card for cheap political points when there are so many other pressing issues.


18 posted on 08/24/2014 7:41:52 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: rktman

Fly the FIRST Confederate flag flown at Charleston,SC during the bombardment of Ft. Sumter.It looks like the flag of Puerto Rico so they will love it in Calipornia.


19 posted on 08/24/2014 7:42:07 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: rktman

This is obvious message content discrimination and I’m pretty sure we get more than five votes should it reach SCOTUS.


20 posted on 08/24/2014 7:43:29 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: I_Publius

It’s time to start hanging the Stars and Bars and Don’t Tread on Me Flags. We’ve got to do something to show these people we’ve had enough.


21 posted on 08/24/2014 7:47:21 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: dowcaet

“This is why the Democratic Party is absolutely useless when they waste their energy on issues like this.”

It is the classic end game of one party rule. They are doing it because they can.

“Californians are worried about their stagnant state economy, illegal immigration and impending water shortages”

Well then Californians need to wake up and throw these fools out of office. They have no one to blame but themselves, sadly.


22 posted on 08/24/2014 7:47:25 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Shimmer1

I think there are needful biases
And to some degree, biases are unavoidable.

Actions against Natural Law often require counter action.

The meaning of a piece of cloth is assigned by the observer however
And speaks completely to the state of mind of the observer.


23 posted on 08/24/2014 7:49:43 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: rktman

Every house hold should fly a CSA flag then maybe they’ll understand what it actually means and do some research.


24 posted on 08/24/2014 7:50:39 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: rktman

These people have to keep fighting imaginary foes since they never do anything to help the people that elected them to office.


25 posted on 08/24/2014 7:53:35 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Drew68

They also did this important work:

“California Assembly Votes to Change Washington Redskins’ Name”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/08/19/California-Assembly-Votes-to-Change-Washington-Redskins-Name


26 posted on 08/24/2014 7:55:34 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: HangnJudge

I agree with you. I just had to say it. I’m not a racist, I’m a culturalist.


27 posted on 08/24/2014 7:56:07 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: rktman

28 posted on 08/24/2014 7:59:32 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: rktman

We need to design a new sarcasm flag. It should include an image of 0-Bama trying to golf. Perhaps with the confederate flag on his golf bag.


29 posted on 08/24/2014 8:02:45 AM PDT by Purdue77
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To: VerySadAmerican

Also, let’s get this straight.

Burning the American flag is free speech, but the display of the confederate flag is unprotected because it’s hateful?

Ok I just love it when liberal logic collides with itself.

After they cram gay marriage down our throats by judicial decree we will watch them squirm to explain why brothers and sisters, brothers and brothers, mothers and daughters, men and lamas, etc. can’t get married.

Just as recently as the early 2000s (when I attended law school), the very suggestion of this type of legislation would have been promptly ridiculed by those across the entire political spectrum.

Freedom from being offended is nowhere in the Constitution (as we all know), while freedom from being denied the right to express such offensive messages is explicitly protected.

I do agree with another poster that this is nothing more than a shameless attempt to get blacks to the polls in November by playing up the race card.


30 posted on 08/24/2014 8:03:32 AM PDT by Clump ( the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: VerySadAmerican
"It’s time to start hanging the Stars and Bars and Don’t Tread on Me Flags. We’ve got to do something to show these people we’ve had enough."

It'll take more than hanging a few flags.

31 posted on 08/24/2014 8:03:36 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: Renegade
The stars and bars.

Smiley face

32 posted on 08/24/2014 8:03:49 AM PDT by x_plus_one
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To: rktman

Every where I go to a public event now in California they have these freakin’ Aztec dancers. The Aztecs were a vicious, conquering, slave holding, human sacrifice practicing bunch of Mexican thugs. I find them much more repulsive than any representation of the Confederacy.


33 posted on 08/24/2014 8:06:53 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: rktman; onedoug; x_plus_one

34 posted on 08/24/2014 8:15:19 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: rktman
I have a friend who is the most liberal person you'll ever meet.

BUT, he is on the faculty at Ole Miss, and is damn proud of the Confederate Flag. Go figure.

35 posted on 08/24/2014 8:19:22 AM PDT by real saxophonist (More Cowbell)
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To: rktman
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Some things ya can't make up. But liberals sure do try!
36 posted on 08/24/2014 8:20:37 AM PDT by W. (Congress: Never bet against their ability to grow stupidity exponentially.)
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To: rktman

This kind of thread always tends to draw out ignorant
California haters who are about as well-informed as those
they criticize. The California bear flag is one of hate? What the
hell is that about?

As to the Confederate flag it is unfairly condemned all over the
country in just about every corner where it is misunderstood.
The gay rights movement has taught us that we do not have
a right to not be offended. If the Confederate flag offends you
because of the history of slavery then too bad. To many of
us (yes, even Californians) it represents states rights, not
slavery.


37 posted on 08/24/2014 8:35:01 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Sivad

No hate/dislike on my part for the many conservative Californians who despise the clowns put in office there by the population centers. We have the same issue across the state line in NV. Vegas so far out votes the rest of the state that there is a constant lib/prog/commie/dimokkkrat circus occurring in Carson City whenever the legislature is in session.


38 posted on 08/24/2014 8:44:43 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: Sivad

The ironic thing is, that slavery existed under Old Glory (the U.S. Stars and Stripes), for a hell of a lot longer than it did under the Stars and Bars of the Confederacy (89 years to less than five years).


39 posted on 08/24/2014 8:45:14 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: rktman

Don’t tell this guy

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pirateheart/4609850167/


40 posted on 08/24/2014 8:50:59 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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FReepers, Let's go!
Everyone needs to donate!



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Please Contribute Today!

41 posted on 08/24/2014 8:53:30 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: rktman

Free Speech?
Free Expression?

I think some white slave owner came up with those ideas!


42 posted on 08/24/2014 8:55:00 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: rktman

Anything that pisses off liberal Californians must be good.


43 posted on 08/24/2014 9:01:02 AM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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To: rktman

Is this really a serious problem?


44 posted on 08/24/2014 9:03:05 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I guess Lincoln was wrong when he ordered a band to play “Dixie” at the end of the war.


45 posted on 08/24/2014 9:09:13 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: rktman
"...as both houses of the state legislature gave final approval to a bill banning the state government from displaying or selling items featuring the Civil War emblem."

I can't help but wonder just how many Confederate battle flags the state of Kookifornia was selling or displaying to begin with. My guess is ZERO! Just another socialist nit wit touchie feely measure to add to the endless parade of other Idiocy that these cretins produce.

46 posted on 08/24/2014 9:10:42 AM PDT by Desron13
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To: BenLurkin; All

I was watching History 2 last night about the US Flags. It was explained that in the civil war most military on both sides had the typical gray uniforms and caried the US flag. As a result, many deaths occurred in units from gunfire and shelling from other units of their same army.

The Yankees gradually went to blue uniforms and the Confederates went to the battle flag, to better distinguish the two sides and prevent deaths from friendly fire.

It’s ludicrous for blacks and lame politicians to claim that the battle flag is a symbol of racism!


47 posted on 08/24/2014 9:14:39 AM PDT by octex
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To: rktman

I’m surprised when I see an American flag in California. I’m surprised they’re not trying to outlaw that too.


48 posted on 08/24/2014 9:22:18 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: octex

Not all blacks feel that way!!!

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=black+man+with+confedeerate+flag&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGHP_enUS584US584&q=black+man+carrying+confederate+flag&gs_l=hp..1.0i22i30l5.0.0.0.16080...........0.brjEH-4OhGg


49 posted on 08/24/2014 9:22:54 AM PDT by ontap
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To: ought-six

The ironic thing is, that slavery existed under Old Glory (the U.S. Stars and Stripes), for a hell of a lot longer than it did under the Stars and Bars of the Confederacy (89 years to less than five years).
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Yep. The Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in the Confederate States; NOT in the Union States, where people (many black) continued to own slaves.


50 posted on 08/24/2014 9:32:09 AM PDT by octex
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