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Ukrainian President dissolves parliament, schedules elections
CNN ^ | August 25, 2014 | Steve Almasy and Victoria Butenko

Posted on 08/25/2014 1:50:46 PM PDT by McGruff

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced Monday on Twitter that he has dissolved the nation's parliament.

Elections are scheduled for October 26, the President wrote.

"Dear compatriots, Today I have taken a decision to early dissolve the Parliament," he said in a post written in English.

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Didn't they already do this once? To put it into Obama terms, is this a mulligan? Why can't we do this?
1 posted on 08/25/2014 1:50:46 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Previously the Prime Minister tried to resign but Parliament would not accept his resignation, so it didn’t happen. We can’t do this because we don’t have a Prime Minister.


2 posted on 08/25/2014 1:54:27 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: McGruff
Parliamentary democracies are so hard to understand.
/Russians
3 posted on 08/25/2014 1:54:44 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

Parliamentary system vs a Constitutional Republic...

Seems like a strange thing to do, what with hostilities on the eastern front.


4 posted on 08/25/2014 1:55:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: DoughtyOne

It’s necessary to clear the pro-Russian criminals out of Parliament so that positive reforms can occur with normal debate.


5 posted on 08/25/2014 1:57:24 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

Okay. Lets hope it plays out reasonably.


6 posted on 08/25/2014 1:58:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: McGruff

“Didn’t they already do this once? To put it into Obama terms, is this a mulligan? Why can’t we do this?”

It’s pretty sad that they can’t keep a coalition government together, and depend on so much propaganda to make their military look good. Doesn’t say much for their future.


7 posted on 08/25/2014 1:59:34 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: RaveOn

How do you feel about Italy? It goes through a government per year.


8 posted on 08/25/2014 2:02:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

Russians are part of the Ukraine. They should have a role in Parliament.


9 posted on 08/25/2014 2:06:58 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: McGruff
Didn't they already do this once? To put it into Obama terms, is this a mulligan? Why can't we do this?

In parliamentary systems, elections cannot be delayed, but they can be held earlier, (1) at the discretion of the ruling majority, (2) in the event of a hung parliament or (3) on the eve of an important national decision.

10 posted on 08/25/2014 2:07:38 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Not the traitors.


11 posted on 08/25/2014 2:07:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RaveOn

Quick, invade. More.


12 posted on 08/25/2014 2:08:09 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Boomshakalaka!)
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To: Zhang Fei

The Parliament isn’t able to do their duty, this matters in Ukraine (not Russia where the Duma is a rubber stamp for Putin). Hopefully some good people in Ukraine can elect the kind of statesmen they need at a time like this


13 posted on 08/25/2014 2:09:56 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Sacajaweau

Russians should be equal citizens along with everyone else in Ukraine. But they should be loyal to Ukraine, not Russia.


14 posted on 08/25/2014 2:10:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sacajaweau

“Russians are part of the Ukraine. They should have a role in Parliament.”

That’s how I see it. What is happening now looks more like ethnic cleansing than anything else. And the EU is clearly in favor of it, rather than helping to negotiate a diplomatic solution that benefits both sides. Isn’t that what they were set up for?


15 posted on 08/25/2014 2:12:17 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: Sacajaweau

The ones who are fighting Ukraine should have no role in the Parliament. Since Crimea has been occupied by a foreign hostile power, I assume they don’t get to participate.


16 posted on 08/25/2014 2:12:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: RaveOn

If the Russians stopped killing people this war would be over.


17 posted on 08/25/2014 2:13:31 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Sacajaweau

Ukrainians are the only parts of the Ukraine.

Russians live in Russia.

Where do you come up with this nonsense?

The Ukraine has been a sovereign nation for twenty years.

Nobody is denying Russian speaking people to be a part of the government. Get over it. Russia let the Ukraine go. It wasn’t some evil act.

Good grief, we tried for 70 years to get parts of Russia to become self-determining, and twenty years later we have the Russian apologists come in and try to support giving it all back. It’s nonsensical.

The Ukrainian people don’t have a right to be self-determining? Really?

A foreign nation should be able to come into a sovereign nation and call elections and take the territory based on that?

Where is that done on a regular basis? Perhaps you can enlighten us.

There are a lot of Spanish speaking people in the U. S. Do you approve of Mexico arming Texans and calling special elections along the border?


18 posted on 08/25/2014 2:24:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: RaveOn

That’s just moronic. I have yet to find one Ukrainian who wants the Ukraine to be broken up. I’ve only talked to about a dozen people, but where do you folks come up with all these assumptions?

You’ve got mercs and old soviet unikon military types in the Ukraine.

How is that reasoned? How would you like Mexico arming our populace and not only demanding, but calling special elections in occupied contested regions of our nation?

There are a lot of Spanish speaking people in Texas. Should we allow Mexico to arm them and call a special election?


19 posted on 08/25/2014 2:28:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: dfwgator

“But they should be loyal to Ukraine, not Russia.”

They were, until the anti-Russian sentiment at the Maidan took over, with threats and actual legislation to wipe out Russian Culture within Ukraine, and cries of “Ukraine for Ukrainians!” after the coup.

Most of the original leaders, and many of the Militia leaders, are Ukrainian Russians, like Bezler, or “Motorola”. They saw Putin move on Crimea after the coup, and they saw it as their chance, as well.

As predicted, if the Right Sector/Svoboda took over the government, if you will recall discussions from Feb.

Obama backed the most radical elements in Ukraine to take power. So why is ANYONE surprised that it back-fired, and that the Russians, especially Putin, would take advantage of it?

Remember... If there had been no coup, there would be no civil war today, and Crimea would still have a Ukrainian Flag over it.


20 posted on 08/25/2014 2:33:04 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Funny, the Russians . . . always the victims. While their country invades and occupies other countries.
21 posted on 08/25/2014 2:35:11 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DoughtyOne
There are a lot of Spanish speaking people in the U. S. Do you approve of Mexico arming Texans and calling special elections along the border?

I bet some Putin fans would go for that.

22 posted on 08/25/2014 2:38:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DoughtyOne
There are a lot of Spanish speaking people in Texas. Should we allow Mexico to arm them and call a special election?

With regard to Crimea, it would be more precise to say, arm them, give them an election where the choice is between "yes" and "yes," and then use the armed folks to prevent them from voting in a real election.

23 posted on 08/25/2014 2:41:42 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: GeronL

Agreed...


24 posted on 08/25/2014 2:47:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: DoughtyOne
"How would you like Mexico arming our populace and not only demanding, but calling special elections in occupied contested regions of our nation?" . . Might not be that far off, especially with "executive amnesty" coming.
25 posted on 08/25/2014 2:47:49 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: 1rudeboy

Probably so...


26 posted on 08/25/2014 2:48:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: McGruff

First France, now Ukraine.

When will it be Amerika??????????


27 posted on 08/25/2014 2:48:12 PM PDT by Ancient Wonderboy
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To: tcrlaf

I agree.


28 posted on 08/25/2014 2:51:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (We'll know when he's really hit bottom. They'll start referring to him as White.)
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

Lol, that’s conservative./ Its necessary to remove those who disagree with the coup, so they can have normal debate. Nice to hear it admitted openly.


29 posted on 08/25/2014 3:02:44 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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But it’s not ethnic cleansing. Oh no no no no.


30 posted on 08/25/2014 3:15:32 PM PDT by RaveOn ("No amount of logic can shatter a faith consciously based on a lie." Lamar Keene, "True Believers")
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To: DesertRhino

Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about members of Congress promoting the dissolution of the U.S.? “Normal” debate?


31 posted on 08/25/2014 3:16:12 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RaveOn

The Russians do know something about ethnic cleansing, I will grant you that . . . .


32 posted on 08/25/2014 3:17:22 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DesertRhino

“Its necessary to remove those who disagree with the coup, so they can have normal debate.”

No compromise allowed, of course. Agree or we will kill you.
Sounds just like a Democrat.


33 posted on 08/25/2014 3:20:12 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: DoughtyOne
There are a lot of Spanish speaking people in Texas. Should we allow Mexico to arm them...

They are already armed. This is Texas after all.

... and call a special election?

LOL! Mexico would lose. Mexicans do not come to Texas out of a desire to live in Mexico.

BTW you have it backwards. We arm Mexicans, not the other way around.

34 posted on 08/25/2014 3:22:47 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: McGruff

Technically legal, but not very democratic of him. He has to officially recognize that the secessionists are regular combatants representing the Donbar, not terrorists, or ensure the elections result in the proper representation of the Donbar region in the parliament. If the Donbar hasn’t seceded, you must include them. (Yes, the U.S. did regard the Confederacy as combatants, not criminals.)


35 posted on 08/25/2014 3:22:57 PM PDT by dangus
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m against it. A better analogy would be if your man Obama decided all the representatives from Texas should be banished so the agenda of his socialist revolution could be debated normally.
The Kiev Nazis have a lot on common with Obama. That’s why Obama, McCain, and Hillary love em so much.


36 posted on 08/25/2014 3:35:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: tcrlaf

Or like the first Nazis when they consolidated power in the elected German government. Very similar.


37 posted on 08/25/2014 3:43:39 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Russians who are not loyal to Ukraine should leave for Russia where they will never have a role in govt, that is the Russian way.


38 posted on 08/25/2014 3:48:03 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Texas fought for it's independence from Mexico. It took some volunteers from the US to help. That's basically what's going on in two regions of Ukraine. They don't want to be part of the George Soros's European Union.
39 posted on 08/25/2014 3:48:26 PM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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To: McGruff

Solid


40 posted on 08/25/2014 3:51:01 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

You keep tossing around the word “Nazis” to describe the Ukrainian government. Is this a reference to the right wing Svoboda party that won less than two percent of the vote in the recent elections? Do you believe that is a sound basis for using such inflammatory and vicious language to describe the current Ukrainian government? Apart from the fact that the Russian government and its press regularly uses such vile language to describe the Ukrainian government, can you point to any legitimate sources to back up you claim that the current government of Ukraine is “Nazi”? Do you believe that there is no incongruity between a government being “Nazi” as you would have it and the fact that its prime minister is partly Jewish?


41 posted on 08/25/2014 3:55:12 PM PDT by Agog
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To: McGruff

Except that 90% of the fighters in eastern Ukraine are Russian citizens sent in by Putin to wage war against a sovereign country. This is about escaping from the Russian boot more than anything else.


42 posted on 08/25/2014 4:00:29 PM PDT by Agog
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To: DesertRhino

Russian speaking Ukrainians have brought this upon themselves. Unfortunately it is a minority as most Russian speaking Ukrainians support a united Ukraine and do not support Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

It remains unknown what the borders of Ukraine will be a year or two from now, but whatever Ukrainian territory Ukraine retains will be free of Russian control and that is what all free people can agree on, not you russkies of course who favor Russian invasions and oppression.


43 posted on 08/25/2014 4:00:31 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: DesertRhino

“Better” analogy? LOL


44 posted on 08/25/2014 4:01:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: DoughtyOne

Mexico is kind of doing that now. But I get your point.


45 posted on 08/25/2014 4:02:56 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: McGruff

Wow. Only in the most fevered Paultard/Kremlin mind would the fight for Texan independence be equated with what is going on in Ukraine right now.


46 posted on 08/25/2014 4:02:59 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

Texas was part of the Confederacy. Texas seceded from the United States and fought a war against the Union. They lost.


47 posted on 08/25/2014 4:20:24 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Maybe this has something to do with this latest Coup.

The Fitch ratings agency has downgraded Ukraine one step closer to default grade, as the Ukrainian currency the hryvnia hits a record low, and the economy balances on the brink of a collapse.

Fitch cut the long-term local currency Issuer Default Rating (IDR) of Ukraine from B-,signifying a default risk, to CCC, where default is a real possibility, and affirmed its long-term foreign currency IDR at CCC, it said in a statement on Friday.

The downgrade came amid deteriorating economic outlook due to the ongoing military conflict in Ukraine.

48 posted on 08/25/2014 4:32:09 PM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

We should get one


49 posted on 08/25/2014 4:35:13 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Sacajaweau

That depends on which Russians. Lincoln sure didn’t allow Confederates to have a say in U.S. (Union) Civil War policy decisions.


50 posted on 08/25/2014 9:45:44 PM PDT by Paul R. (Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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