Skip to comments.Remember Those "Missing" Lois Lerner Emails? They Apparently Really Do Exist
Posted on 08/25/2014 3:36:37 PM PDT by Kaslin
We saw this coming, didnt we? Fox News Shannon Bream broke the news this afternoon:
And National Review Online caught the relevant portion of the exchange:
A Department of Justice attorney told a Judicial Watch attorney on Friday that it turns out the federal government backs up all computer records in case something terrible happens in Washington and theres a catastrophe, so the government can continue operating, Judicial Watch president Tom Fitton told Fox News Shannon Bream.
But it would be too hard to go get lois lerners emails from that backup system,Fitton continued, paraphrasing the DOJ official. So, everything weve been hearing about scratched hard drives, about missing emails of Lois Lerner, other IRS officials, other officials in the Obama administration, its all been a pack of malarkey. They could get these records, but they dont want to.
And why wouldnt they want to retrieve those records? Easy: such records, if released to the public, could perhaps further tarnish the government agencys already diminishing reputation. For example, if the emails show conclusively that the current administration and the IRS were working together to explicitly target conservative non-profit organizations, the notion that the IRS scandal was somehow phony -- and that the president himself learned about the scandal in news reports" -- would be totally discredited.
Judicial Watch, meanwhile, fully intends on continuing its crusade to recover these emails by obtaining them and placing their contents in the public record. So well see how far they get.
For what its worth, most Americans think there was something fishy going on at IRS after the scandal broke, and would like answers.
Yes, they are indeed SOMEWHERE. But that doesn't mean they are actually AVAILABLE. These things take time. They won't actually be AVAILABLE until least until mid-November if then.
We need to get through that pesky election before we can concentrate on digging through all of those bytes or megabytes or gigabytes or terabytes or whatever they are called these days. It's really a needle-haystack kind of a problem.
It ain’t over till Kate Smith sings!
world’s oldest mother me!
I believe that some of the boys in the DOJ have decided to reveal these emails so that they can keep their law licenses and jobs in a couple of years.That’s prolly why Obummy has been looking sour lately. The JIG is up and it’s time for Obuzzo to come to Jesus.
This is a great reason to not re-elect Mitch McConnell.
McConnell has already made it clear that if the Republicans get the majority of the senate, and he is still in charge, that he will revert to the “fairness” rules that existed before Harry Reid destroyed them.
This means the Republicans will forget all the abuse and unfairness the Democrats dumped on them, ONCE AGAIN, pretending it didn’t happen, and the Republicans will “reach across the aisle” to be extra generous to the Democrats.
It also means that such criminals as Lerner, Sebelius, Holder and all the others will get a free pass, without having to concern themselves one bit about even being investigated, much less indicted.
McConnell being elected also means that *nothing* Obama and the Democrats did will be reversed, just accepted as “the new status quo”.
That’s right. A McConnell senate means that America will *keep* Obamacare, the Democrat plans to destroy energy production will continue unabated, the IRS will continue to torment Tea Party conservative organizations (that McConnell hates and wants to destroy too), the EPA will probably want to regulate breathing oxygen, etc. etc.
It is even questionable if McConnell will refuse to approve one or two new justices for the Supreme Court. Certainly the conservative senators will rail against nominees like Eric Holder and Cass Sunstein or Hillary Clinton, but McConnell will again bend the knee, and with the help of a few other RINOs, will push them through.
If before the write-in votes are cast in late October, it appears the Republicans will pick up several seats, then the Tea Party must totally sit out the McConnell race, because there is no way in hell a single freshman Democrat senator can wreak the disaster that another McConnell senate would cause.
I think the difference is simple. The IRS and DoJ have no problem lying to Congress, because they have shown they are toothless tigers. They have held Holder and Lerner in contempt, and nothing has happened to them. So there is nothing to fear from obstructing Congress and even committing perjury if there is no one to prosecute the violations.
On the other hand, the judge in the Judicial Watch case ordered the IRS and DoJ to provide an individual to swear under oath as to the facts concerning these e-mails. If this person lied to the judge, the judge could toss him into jail immediately - no need to get the DoJ to prosecute. How many people at the DoJ or IRS are going to go to jail to protect the likes of Lois Lerner?
Cue crickets from MSM...
They will never see the light of day
I know....They searched the “catastrophe” back up systems, only to discover that they too were “scratched”.
Are you from Kentucky? If not why don’t you mind your own business and let the voters of KY decide who they want to vote for.
What’s needed is an insider with ethics who knows how to grab the data and leak it out. Kind of a reverse-Snowden or the guy portrayed in the Erin Brockovich film who passed on internal memos.
And what does this article have to with KY and McConnell? Absolutely nothing. So stay on subject or don’t say anything at all
I’d butt out of Kentucky if Mitch Mcconnell promised to keep the damage he’d do within the borders of that fine state.
I’m starting to believe that unseating the system sucking Rovian county clubbers out is more important that keeping a seat in the “R” category.
My nephew is a self-taught (and quite brilliant) computer guru that has parlayed his experience (no college) into a high dollar/powered job as VP of IT with an investment house.
I asked him the other day about these “emails”.
He grinned and chuckled, and said he could have all of them downloaded in a neat file within his lunch hour and still have 30 minutes leftover for dessert.
He further said that there had to be at least 7 critical failures in the process, most of which would have been 3rd-party contractor responsibility. In his words - “impossible”.
Unfortunately, the senator from Kentucky sits at the head of the table in the senate, and as you can see with Harry Reid, to a great extent, he controls the national agenda, and can cause untold suffering, misery, deprivation, economic collapse, and inflict bad policies on the entire nation.
Harry Reid is an evil man, Mitch McConnell is just as intolerable as a weak, feckless, co-dependent, and spineless man. But comparing the two, McConnell is even more harmful, because he not only does not do good, but he stands in the way and blocks others who seek to do good.
He cannot bring himself to raise his sword against the Democrats; but he is inexplicably brave when fighting those who would. As a Republican, he harms America even more than a Democrat.
Yes, it is a choice of the people of Kentucky. But if they choose unwisely, it may be one of the last choices they ever make that matters. With their vote, they now have the means to end our republic, and all it ever stood for.
And remember folks, EVERY last member of Congress that participated in the Sham Hearings KNOWS THIS and they have known it from the beginning.
He’s definitely a criminal...
Via Judicial Watch:
(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch announced the following developments in the IRS missing emails investigation. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton stated:
Department of Justice attorneys for the Internal Revenue Service told Judicial Watch on Friday that Lois Lerners emails, indeed all government computer records, are backed up by the federal government in case of a government-wide catastrophe. The Obama administration attorneys said that this back-up system would be too onerous to search. The DOJ attorneys also acknowledged that the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) is investigating this back-up system.
We obviously disagree that disclosing the emails as required would be onerous, and plan to raise this new development with Judge Sullivan.
This is a jaw-dropping revelation. The Obama administration had been lying to the American people about Lois Lerners missing emails. There are no missing Lois Lerner emails nor missing emails of any of the other top IRS or other government officials whose emails seem to be disappearing at increasingly alarming rate. All the focus on missing hard drives has been a diversion. The Obama administration has known all along where the email records could be but dishonestly withheld this information. You can bet we are going to ask the court for immediate assistance in cutting through this massive obstruction of justice.
Here is the second set of sworn declarations by IRS officials in response to Judge Emmet G. Sullivans investigation into the missing emails of Lois Lerner and other IRS officials. The declarations were provided after close of business on Friday, August 22.
The first meeting was held this afternoon by Magistrate Judge John M. Facciola, who was appointed by Judge Emmet G. Sullivan to manage and assist in discussions between Judicial Watch and the IRS about how to obtain any missing records which have been the subject of longstanding Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests and lawsuit (Judicial Watch v. IRS (No. 1:13-cv-1559)).
Judge Sullivan has encouraged Judicial Watch to submit a request for limited discovery into the missing IRS records after September 10.
Watch Tom Fitton discussing the new revelation on Fox News:
Obama will be resigning due to health or family reasons...
I’m picturing the M&M Christmas commercial where Santa faints....”THEY DO EXIST!!!”
The longer they wait the more likely some tapes will get recycled. But they would have monthly and yearly tapes for a very long time. They can easily get these files. I have done it many times due to government requests. Funny how when the tables are turned, they pull they “it is too hard” bs.
The government has a lot of backup systems, at least ONE for each segment of government (i.e. Department of ****) and I suspect for some defense organizations, more than one (that is logical, says Mr. Spock).
As agent Mulder would say, “The truth is out there!”
You know danmed well that some rogue irs agent is busily deleting them and all traces of them.
Since they would incriminate the shriveled up old hag lerner and her boss, they will never be shown to the public.
Careful battery....Saying JIG is up could be construed as racist.
HEH HEH HEH HEH! :-)
Excuse me, but the election of any U.S. Senator is EVERY American's business!!
Wow, the comment that caught your attention also caught mine -- about how a Freeper ought to mind his own business and stay out of a US senate election unless he lives in the state concerned -- I hope that is a mis-statement.
I was surprised. I am very concerned about RINO tendencies in our Senators from every state. I give a pass to the commenter, however, as passion is good, we are all on the same team, and the times are bothersome...
Unless a senator or rep runs for president, the reelection issue of that senator or rep is the voters of the particular state's business. Not yours, nor mine.
You can take that arrogant bs and stuff it where the sun don't shine, Kaslin.
Your comments (and mine) are fair game for any Freeper to respond to, and you know that.
And yes, the election of any U.S. Senator is EVERY American's business, because that Senator will directly affect their lives through their votes in the Senate.
Just about everyone piles on when discussing Harry Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, FeinSWINE, etc...
So by your statement, only those who reside in an affected state are permitted to comment on FR about them?
Their behavior and policies as elected “representatives” affects the entire NATION...