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Tea party voters could dump Mitch McConnell just by staying home
latimes.com ^ | 8/28/14 | David Horsey

Posted on 08/28/2014 6:22:15 AM PDT by cotton1706

he dilemma facing the true grass-roots tea party believers -- the dilemma they do not acknowledge -- is that their primary goal of whittling and whacking away at big government undercuts their secondary goal of saving the middle class from the greedy grip of big corporations..

If Democrats have a unifying philosophy, it is that government needs to be effective enough to curtail the economic and environmental abuses of unfettered capitalism. Republicans, on the other hand, preach the dogma that smaller government and unrestricted corporate power serves the best interests of the common man and woman.

The tea party folks have largely bought into that belief, but still are uncomfortable with Republicans who appear to be too much in thrall to big business. That is partly why a big tea party effort was mounted against Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell in Kentucky’s Republican primary. McConnell was rightly seen as the epitome of the GOP establishment that the tea partiers so disdain. Yet, even with major support from national tea party organizations, such as FreedomWorks and the Senate Conservatives Fund, challenger Matt Bevin could not depose the incumbent senator.

Now McConnell faces a robust challenge from Kentucky’s Democratic secretary of state, Alison Lundergan Grimes, who, at age 35, has been alive exactly as long as McConnell has been in the U.S. Senate. Polls show Grimes is in striking distance of beating the old veteran.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; elections; ky2014; mcconnell; teaparty
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Let McConnell win with the moderates that he loves so much!
1 posted on 08/28/2014 6:22:15 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

an article from LA times thats almost almost accurate? Its not big corporates that tea partiers support, but free market


2 posted on 08/28/2014 6:25:42 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: cotton1706

Personally its SC Grahamnesty who really irks me, I think him losing to a Dem would still be better than another term with his continued deceitfulness.

McConnells pretty lame but is Grahamnesty who I really want gone.


3 posted on 08/28/2014 6:25:48 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: cotton1706

Aye—And let Cochran win with the Democrats he courted.


4 posted on 08/28/2014 6:29:12 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: cotton1706
Tea party voters could dump Mitch McConnell just by staying home

And this is exactly what they should do. On second thought, they SHOULD vote, and they should vote for the Democrat.

It is far more important to teach this man (and the rest of the establishment as well) a lesson for having declared war on us (and paying for those racist ads used in Mississippi) than it is to have just one more RINO incumbent at war with us in the Senate.

In this particular race, the Tea Party needs to project some power, and the only way to do this is to vote for the Democrat.

Yes, the Democrat is an enemy, but McConnell is a traitor, and traitors have a higher priority than enemies.

5 posted on 08/28/2014 6:30:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: sickoflibs
McConnells pretty lame but is Grahamnesty who I really want gone.

McConnell declared war on us and funneled money into those racist attack ads against the Tea Party in Mississippi.

McConnell MUST go. We can't afford to tolerate such behavior.

6 posted on 08/28/2014 6:31:55 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: cotton1706

Q. What do you call a Moderate in Kentucky?

A. A Democrat

And Mitch is the only one too stupid to get the punchline.


7 posted on 08/28/2014 6:37:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: DiogenesLamp

agree!


8 posted on 08/28/2014 6:37:25 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: DiogenesLamp

I want Harry Reid fired more than I want Mitch retired...


9 posted on 08/28/2014 6:40:01 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: ErnBatavia
I want Harry Reid fired more than I want Mitch retired...

Really? Which part of Harry Reid's agenda did Mitch McConnell oppose? Which Obama nominees did Mitch McConnell refuse to vote for?

If we don't get rid of these backstabbing traitors, it won't be any different from having Reid as Senate Majority leader. It might in fact be worse, because then OUR name will be attached to the disaster.

10 posted on 08/28/2014 6:43:16 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: 4rcane
an article from LA times thats almost almost accurate? Its not big corporates that tea partiers support, but free market

Yeah, I'm reading this with my mouth hanging open. The LATimes and they didn't disparage the tea party? Actually stated understanding about the facts associated with the tea party. What is this world coming to?

11 posted on 08/28/2014 6:46:27 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: DiogenesLamp

The GOPe treats TeaParty supporters as domocrats treat blacks. But the TeaPartyists won’t just sit back and blindly support the establishment as blacks do for the dems. That’s why the GOPe despises them so much.


12 posted on 08/28/2014 6:50:51 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: ErnBatavia

You are pro-amnesty?


13 posted on 08/28/2014 6:51:08 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: DiogenesLamp
Which part of Harry Reid's agenda did Mitch McConnell oppose

Mitch opposed Reid's destruction of the filibuster rules and has promised to restore the power of the minority to democrats if Republicans are to regain the Senate majority.

14 posted on 08/28/2014 6:53:14 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: cotton1706

Conservatives should refuse to vote for the GOPe who solicited Democrat votes to defeat Conservative Republicans.

We don’t need a second Democrat Party called “GOP”.

Vote “Bullwinkle!”


15 posted on 08/28/2014 6:53:43 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FReerepublic: Bring a FRiend!)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
The GOPe treats TeaParty supporters as domocrats treat blacks. But the TeaPartyists won’t just sit back and blindly support the establishment as blacks do for the dems. That’s why the GOPe despises them so much.

We need to make them understand that *WE* will run this show, or *WE* will burn you down. You mess with us, and we will cut off your head.

*THAT* is how you get respect in politics. The NRA has demonstrated this countless times over the last 50 years.

16 posted on 08/28/2014 6:54:41 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: cotton1706

HUGE mistake. I despise McConnell, but Conservatives need to back him as if he is Ronald Reagan. If they do not, the abominable Alison Grimes will win, and continue to win for perhaps the next 36 years.


17 posted on 08/28/2014 6:56:10 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Mitch opposed Reid's destruction of the filibuster rules and has promised to restore the power of the minority to democrats if Republicans are to regain the Senate majority.

Well that's just wonderful. Reid screws over our side, and McConnell promises not to give them a taste of their own medicine once the roles get reversed? Yeah, we really need leadership like this.

18 posted on 08/28/2014 6:57:01 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

the GOP does not dispise the tea party.Anyone who would rather dump McConnell and Lindsay and keep Harry Reid are NOT tea party supporters. They are trouble makers who want the democrats to win.


19 posted on 08/28/2014 6:57:02 AM PDT by peekaboo
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To: montag813

“HUGE mistake. I despise McConnell, but Conservatives need to back him as if he is Ronald Reagan. If they do not, the abominable Alison Grimes will win, and continue to win for perhaps the next 36 years.”

This same thinking is what gave us Jim Jeffords, Arlen Specter, and Lincoln Chafee. McConnell is just as much a traitor as these three.

If I lived in Kentucky, I wouldn’t vote for the democrat, but I WOULD NOT give a vote to McConnell.


20 posted on 08/28/2014 6:59:16 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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To: ozarkgirl

It’s agitprop. They hate the Tea Party, but want to control the Senate and oust McConnell more. So they’ll say nice things about the Tea Party as means of achieving their higher priority goals. Once those goals are met they’ll go right back to bashing the Tea Party.

As reference look at the articles Katrina Vanden Hovel (sp?) wrote last year about how wonderful it would be if the KY Dems and Tea Part collaborated on getting rid of McConnell. Does anyone really doubt that, had Bevins won, he’d be immediately smeared loudly and often as a right wing, racist, fascist, nutjob Tea Party extremist?

I’m fine with people opposing McConnell on points. But people should also be aware that articles like this are just attempts by the Leftist MSM to play us.


21 posted on 08/28/2014 7:01:53 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: montag813
HUGE mistake. I despise McConnell, but Conservatives need to back him as if he is Ronald Reagan. If they do not, the abominable Alison Grimes will win, and continue to win for perhaps the next 36 years.

We need her to win. We need her to win because it is the only means of making an example out of Mitch McConnell, which is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than worrying about whether Grimes will win again in six years. (she won't.)

McConnell contributed to our losing the Mississippi Senate seat. What good does it do us when someone like him deliberately throws away a seat to prevent us from taking it and then holds on to his own? How do we come out ahead? The Mississippi Senate seat was just as important as the one in Kentucky.

No my friend, you are not grasping just what this man has done and will do again in the future. Grimes is by far, the lesser of the two evils.

22 posted on 08/28/2014 7:01:54 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: cotton1706

bump


23 posted on 08/28/2014 7:02:14 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Republicans are to regain the Senate majority.

They had the majority 2000 - 2006, House, Senate AND WH. Did they reduce spending? Did they get rid of any prospects for amnesty? Did they secure the border? No, they didn't, but we DID get the 'Patriot Act'. How's that working out for ya?

24 posted on 08/28/2014 7:02:30 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Sgt_Schultze
-- Mitch opposed Reid's destruction of the filibuster rules ... --

which was really hypocritical on McConnell's part, seeing as how McConnell was the person who offered a similar proposal for the Senate's consideration when the Democrats were filibustering/blocking Bush's nominees. Reid is by far a bigger hypocrite (on this issue, as well as others), but McConnell's opposition to curing the Senate's dysfunction when it comes to dealing with executive appointments was an about face.

25 posted on 08/28/2014 7:02:31 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cotton1706

The wife & I refuse to vote for him this time. Strange how angry people can get when their Senator threatens them and craps all over them. We’re not like abused wives, we are NOT coming back for our fair share of abuse.

I have no idea how many conservatives feel as we do out here. Going to be interesting to see. My gut feeling at this point is he will pull it out by the skin of his teeth. The Dem fraud machine here is not sufficient (yet) for a Republican to be ahead by 3 points and still lose.

But.....they want this one pretty bad, so I see the likelihood of some heavy duty smears late in the campaign.

Here’s how I would run Grimes campaign: Why would anyone want a Republican that can’t be trusted and betrays his own base? Sell it as a man that can’t be trusted by his own party, so why should Dems *or* Pubbies want him.


26 posted on 08/28/2014 7:02:43 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: peekaboo
the GOP does not dispise the tea party.Anyone who would rather dump McConnell and Lindsay and keep Harry Reid are NOT tea party supporters. They are trouble makers who want the democrats to win.

Keeping traitors allows Democrats to win, or have you not been noticing? McConnell contributed to our loss in Mississippi. He will do so again. He has to go.

27 posted on 08/28/2014 7:03:18 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: cotton1706

Sometimes ya gotta let the Dem win to get rid of a deeply seated RINO.


28 posted on 08/28/2014 7:03:34 AM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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To: montag813

Well, McConnell should have considered that before he crapped all over political conservatives.


29 posted on 08/28/2014 7:04:54 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ErnBatavia

You don’t get it. We need 100 Democrat Senators. Let’s not pretend. With 100 Democrat Senators in control the country will surely sink in to the abyss. THEN we can start over.

I think that’s the plan......


30 posted on 08/28/2014 7:05:31 AM PDT by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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To: 4rcane

Yeah that’s what I first keyed on, the ‘LA Times’ and how they would twist things. It’s almost in the category of ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’.

Notice how the LA Times still denigrates the Tea Party folks by saying the movement still doesn’t acknowledge the ‘dilemma’; what rubbish.


31 posted on 08/28/2014 7:05:50 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: peekaboo
Yes, the liberal GOP does despise the tea party. McConnell himself said he wanted to "punch them in the face" and promised to destroy them.

The liberal republicans need to lose and never, ever win another race again.

I will work to destroy the liberal republican party.

I'm a conservative, not a republican.

/johnny

32 posted on 08/28/2014 7:05:52 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Going back to the traditional filibuster rules while Obama is president makes sense. Is very much a good thing.

In a slim GOP Senate Majority it prevents a**holes like McCain from crossing the aisle to confirm Obama’s Liberal nominees.


33 posted on 08/28/2014 7:06:01 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: peekaboo
They are trouble makers who want the democrats to win.

So wrong on so many levels. But hey, you apparently enjoy being stabbed in the back by traitorous wretches in your own party. Good luck with that.

34 posted on 08/28/2014 7:06:12 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: cotton1706

35 posted on 08/28/2014 7:07:05 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: peekaboo
-- ... the GOP does not dispise the tea party. --

It despises the political ideals that tea partiers desire.

36 posted on 08/28/2014 7:07:09 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cotton1706

LAtimes voter suppression effort.

Seems more like trolling for idiots.


37 posted on 08/28/2014 7:10:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
McConnell won his last general election by 6%. That was before he pissed off his base by declaring war on them, and it was against a weak Dem.

Grimes ain't weak.

I think McConnell is toast.

/johnny

38 posted on 08/28/2014 7:12:44 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Yup, the Dems are really obsessed with defeating McConnell.

A close race is to our advantage. Means the Dems will pump money into KY that they’d otherwise spend elsewhere. Might be enough to swing one or two other marginal races our way.

I still think McConnell wins. Especially if Obama tries to implement that climate treaty. Grimes is pulling out all the stops in trying to win votes in coal country, will see her chances there implode if Obama follows through with his plans.

So, presuming that he’ll win, I want McConnell to damage Grimes as much as he can to hurt her chances at other elective offices (like Governor) she might try for down the road.


39 posted on 08/28/2014 7:16:04 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter
McConnell barely won his last general election against a weak Dem. That was before he pissed off his base.

McConnell is very weak.

/johnny

40 posted on 08/28/2014 7:19:08 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: montag813
... the abominable Alison Grimes will win, and continue to win for perhaps the next 36 years.

Yes, because a freshman Democrat senator in Kentucky, elected only because the Republican incumbent drove away his base, would be impossible to beat ... /s.

If conservatives have such little intestinal fortitude that they are scared that Grimes could retain that seat for the next 3 1/2 decades, then the Republic is surely lost. But I am still hopeful that you are in the minority, at least on that particular fear.
41 posted on 08/28/2014 7:21:01 AM PDT by jjsheridan5 (Remember Mississippi -- leave the GOP plantation)
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To: JRandomFreeper

His last election was in 2008, where the presence of Obama on the ticket drove an abnormally large turnout in places like Louisville. Particularly West Louisville.

I don’t think that’ll happen again this year, unless Ferguson emerges as a major campaign issue. Which would be an across the board disaster for Conservatives.


42 posted on 08/28/2014 7:23:17 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: cotton1706

You are advocating foolishness. Your hatred for Republicans is destructive. A Reid Senate is incomparably worse than a Mcconnell senate

Such fallacious thought got us Obama.

The Tea Party thought is great but it is not going to control in the immediate future. To trash Republicans in a fit of Tea Party self righteousness will continue the destruction.


43 posted on 08/28/2014 7:26:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: tanknetter
He is still very weak since he alienated a large percentage of his base, and I look forward to that liberal republican losing.

/johnny

44 posted on 08/28/2014 7:27:05 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: DiogenesLamp
It is far more important to teach this man (and the rest of the establishment as well) a lesson for having declared war on us

Since the formation of political parties very early in the history of the Republic, political power has been exercised by two parties. The names and composition of parties have changed over time, but it's always been two and all of the others have been irrelevant in their brief time in the Sun.

For most of my youth, the two parties were not divided into liberal and conservatives, each party was itself so divided. The Democrats held the majority in the Congress, but enacting legislation required either the conservative blocks or the liberal blocks to coalesce across party lines to get anything done.

This system broke up when the Solid South turned against the Democrats Party and became Republicans. That stared a trend that sent the Conservatives toward the Republicans and the Liberals toward the Democrats. The Democrat Party is much further along in this shift, they have essentially purged their party of all conservatives or have the few holdouts under firm control. Not so in the Republican Party, for various reasons. The Tea Party movement is doing something about that and is having success, especially at the local level.

But because this success is not fast enough for some and because the most powerful of the bunch are the ones best equipped to hang on the longest, a group of people are urging that conservatives vote for Democrats. That this idea is insane on it's face is demonstrated by the glee with which this LA Times journalist urges this Kamikaze approach forward. I have never seen a more wrongheaded idea in my life. The Democrat Party can never be a choice for conservatives and within our two party system staying home or voting for some third party fringe is the equivalent of supporting Democrats, as this author points out.

I am going to vote for my own best interests. I also vote for the best interests of my children and my grandchildren. I vote for the best interests of this great country of ours. I will never vote for a Democrat for any office, for any reason period. Those who do are dead to me.

45 posted on 08/28/2014 7:29:03 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: bert
A Reid Senate is incomparably worse than a Mcconnell senate

No difference. McConnell has proven with his critical cloture votes that he is on-board with Reid's liberal agenda, and supports it.

All liberal republicans must lose in any election that they run in. Liberal republicans must be politically destroyed.

/johnny

46 posted on 08/28/2014 7:29:10 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cotton1706

Ditch Mitch by any means necessary.


47 posted on 08/28/2014 7:32:18 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: nickcarraway

I’m anti-Reid.


48 posted on 08/28/2014 7:34:31 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: ErnBatavia
I’m anti-Reid.

Too bad McConnell isn't. He supported Reid's liberal agenda with critical cloture votes when Reid needed them.

/johnny

49 posted on 08/28/2014 7:36:40 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: montag813

Wrong. We can win the other Senate races, rid ourselves of McConnell
and be just fine.


50 posted on 08/28/2014 7:36:43 AM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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