In Donetsck, Russian soldiers strapped woman to a lamp-post because she overtly showed her patriotic attitude to Ukraine. Then they talked passersby into beating and kicking her at will.
Posted on 08/28/2014 7:42:34 AM PDT by GeronL
Ukraine Today:
A militant leader in Ukraine's eastern city of Donetsk has admitted that Russian soldiers are fighting among his forces in the insurgency. Alexander Zakharchenko, the prime minister of the so-called Donetsk People's Republic, told Russian media that between 3,000 and 4,000 Russian soldiers on leave from their posts have been fighting in the insurgency.
Winter is coming. The MidEast could easily go up in flames. Europe needs oil, even if Ukraine thinks it doesn't. The Kiev "gov" is still irritating its minorities, trying to provoke a world war to save their coup.
A look at the map...if Russia has that eastern stretch of Ukraine, it provides a landbridge to Crimea. It gives great access to the Black Sea, so Ukraine becomes near irrelevant in getting fuel to Europe.
The West logically should stop babysitting in Ukraine. The US and Europe have a real problem to deal with now. That would be Muslim terrorism spreading into the US and Europe. Even our leaders can't be dumb enough to encourage another war. Besides with, if Turkey gets weird, Russia controlling that Black Sea access might be a real good idea.
Just trying to think logically. Correct me, please, where I err.
I hope not. I hope the Russians get their butts kicked but that isn’t likely since they are now sending in whole tank battalions.
In hindsight, a Czechoslovak-like “Velvet Divorce” may have been for the best back in the 90s.
“The Russians will take everything East of the Dnieper River”
In the beginning, that was my call, as well. But now I think that area may not include Kharkov, and be a narrow area based on Meltipol.
“Ukraine” will be what is left, with Odessa as the port. For several reasons, I don’t think this is going to include Hungarian Ruthenia, either.
As long as the people pulling the strings in Kiev remain in power, it’s going to continue downhill, I fear. Note that I’m NOT talking about Poroshenko. It’s pretty clear now that he’s got a gun to his head if he doesn’t play along with the radicals.
Ukraine should have kept their nukes and flattened Moscow
lolz
The people in Kiev are not the ones ordering in the Russian army.
Look. The Russian soldiers are on vacation, right? No one can control what they do on vacation. Leave them alone, instead of a beach, they are going to a war.
“Ukraine should have kept their nukes”
Ukraine being Ukraine, they likely would not have kept their nukes, but sold them to the highest bidders. Under the table, of course.
Obama.
Your argument is defeated.
right... and Russia is not the biggest arms exporter on the planet either??
Depending on how it is quantified, by dollars, or tonnage, it goes back and forth between the US and Russia, with China’s weapons exports growing fast.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_industry#World.27s_largest_arms_exporters
Crazy combat footage from Ilovaisk as “Motorola’s” unit clears the railroad station from the trapped Right-Sector Militia, I believe.
These are veterans of Slovyansk, commanded by a Slovyansk local. They are used as a “Fire Brigade”, and go where the toughest fighting is.
http://youtu.be/dLT9Mif_y-o
I agree.
Poroshenko will be forced out for conducting an unpopular war and Western Ukraine will move to join the EU and NATO.
Novorossiya and Transnistria will join Putin’s trading and defense bloc.
They have the resources to do that, militarily. However, the past several months showed that pro-Russian sentiment is weak in the East. The insurgents did not have the population's support, and the Ukrainian Army was greeted as liberators everywhere where the insurgents were wiped out. If Russia annexes anything beyond Crimea at this point, they will have a guerrilla war on their hands.
I think, direct hostilities perpetrated by Russia will be the beginning of an end of the Putin's regime.
Russia has no interest in any thing west of the Dnieper. It won’t annex Novorossiya; that will become another Kremlin client state linked up to Transnistria.
They’re resigned in Moscow to West Ukie independence. Wasting Russian lives retaking Kiev is not worth it.
This is a replay of Crimea but unlike Crimea, there is no good reason for Russia to annex Ukraine’s east outright. Putin also wants to keep Kiev on a short leash by keeping open the possibility some future Ukrainian leader might decide to join a Russian-dominated Ukrainian confederation.
The assumption is that the non-Russian part of Ukraine won’t fall into chaos.
We saw the same thing happen to the rest of Czechoslovakia after Hitler took the Sudetenland.
Which is precisely why NATO should be prepared to move into Western Ukraine should the situation deteriorate there.
The eastern part of Ukraine is the industrial heartland. The rest isn’t worth fighting for. It’s interesting the the IMF wouldn’t bailout Ukraine unless they put down the rebellion in the Eastern part. Which looks less and less likely as time goes on.
In Donetsck, Russian soldiers strapped woman to a lamp-post because she overtly showed her patriotic attitude to Ukraine. Then they talked passersby into beating and kicking her at will.
The Russian ISIS continues
The Red Army is not rebellion
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