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BORDER PATROL AGENT FIRES AT ARMED MILITIA MEMBER
AP ^ | August 29, 2014 | BY CHRISTOPHER SHERMAN

Posted on 08/29/2014 7:00:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

McALLEN, Texas (AP) -- A Border Patrol agent pursuing a group of immigrants in a wooded area near the Texas-Mexico border on Friday fired several shots at an armed man who later identified himself as a militia member.

Border Patrol spokesman Omar Zamora said agents had been chasing a group of immigrants east of Brownsville Friday afternoon when an agent saw a man holding a gun near the Rio Grande. The agent fired four shots, but did not hit the man. The man then dropped his gun and identified himself as a member of a militia. Zamora said no other details were immediately available.

Cameron County Sheriff Omar Lucio, whose agency is involved in the investigation, said the incident occurred on private property and it appeared the man had permission to be there. He was not arrested, Lucio said.

The man, whose name has not been released, was wearing camouflage and carrying a long arm that was either a rifle or shotgun...

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; banglist; borderpatrol; bordersecurity; illegalimmigration; mcallen; militia; texas
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1 posted on 08/29/2014 7:00:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: BuckeyeTexan; humblegunner; Syncro; Chris Robinson; eartick; BenLurkin

Thanks for the link, Buckeye. Gotta be careful out there.


2 posted on 08/29/2014 7:02:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

A Border Patrol agent with a gun is a very very dangerous person ....


3 posted on 08/29/2014 7:02:42 PM PDT by Ken522
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To: Jim Robinson

They need to coordinate with the border patrol.


4 posted on 08/29/2014 7:04:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: cripplecreek

The BP should deputize the militia.


5 posted on 08/29/2014 7:05:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

At least hand out some radios so they know where everybody is.


6 posted on 08/29/2014 7:08:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I thought the BP could not shoot at anyone, isn’t that how two agents went to jail a few years back?


7 posted on 08/29/2014 7:08:34 PM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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To: Jim Robinson; humblegunner; Syncro; Chris Robinson; eartick; BenLurkin

These particular militia members were on private property with permission from the property owner. It was bound to happen sooner or later.


8 posted on 08/29/2014 7:09:38 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Jim Robinson

“The agent fired four shots, but did not hit the man.”

Pfffftttt...

Nice shootin’, Tex.

The borders may as well be imaginary lines.


9 posted on 08/29/2014 7:09:59 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

BUMP


10 posted on 08/29/2014 7:11:45 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Lets Roll NOW

.......I thought the BP could not shoot at anyone...........

**********

Yeah...so much for that.


11 posted on 08/29/2014 7:12:37 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Might want to think about that ... This person had the permission of the property owner to be on the property.


12 posted on 08/29/2014 7:12:44 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Lets Roll NOW

He was wearing camo and carrying a long gun. BP prolly thought he was cartel.

Although, wearing camo and carrying a long gun ain’t uncommon in Texas. I guess standing at the border wearing camo and carrying a long gun was the unlucky combination.


13 posted on 08/29/2014 7:13:16 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: cripplecreek
At least hand out some radios so they know where everybody is.

EXCELLENT idea.

14 posted on 08/29/2014 7:14:33 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Jim Robinson

Have a thought that if had been there life number 9 would have been vacated ... even with permission ... LOL


15 posted on 08/29/2014 7:15:23 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good thing it wasn`t a boy scout working on his MARKSMAN Badge.


16 posted on 08/29/2014 7:15:27 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: no-to-illegals

I know.

If they can’t tag the good guys, how much better can they stop the bad guys that are running and hiding with a lifetime of experience of doing this sort of thing?


17 posted on 08/29/2014 7:18:29 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: Jim Robinson

oh no best disarm those military style agents, how dare they shoot.

Maybe if Obama actually enforced the laws , and actually stopped telling Hispanics to come here we might not have as many problems


18 posted on 08/29/2014 7:20:41 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Mexicans won't stop crossing the line because the gringos HERE will hire them in a New York minute. Any Mexican worth his salt can make THREE months of gringo wages HERE and live off of those earnings for the other NINE months south of the border.

I would GUESS that of all the Mexican farm workers (braceros) down there in California's central valley, HALF are legal and HALF are illegals.

Do you think that would be a fair guessimate?

19 posted on 08/29/2014 7:20:58 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Agreement ... creek’s suggestion might help. (radio)


20 posted on 08/29/2014 7:21:55 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cloudmountain

I know if I were running one of these citizen patrols I would be more than happy to file a daily plan with the BP. Both for the sake of safety and the fact that it frees the BP up for other areas.


21 posted on 08/29/2014 7:22:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: cloudmountain

A Mexican immigrant living near the border makes no bones about how he feels about illegals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Je1_kmbMqA&list=UUz5WDK2x-CInOza5SIsyh4w&index=7


22 posted on 08/29/2014 7:24:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: cloudmountain

Taking the average here in south Georgia, I would say 50/50 is about right.

Some big operations are all legals with visas and work permits. Others aren’t so much that way.


23 posted on 08/29/2014 7:25:42 PM PDT by noprogs (Tired of believing wisdom can come from the collective, willful ignorance of American voters)
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To: noprogs
Taking the average here in south Georgia, I would say 50/50 is about right.
Some big operations are all legals with visas and work permits. Others aren’t so much that way.

I can't blame the fruit pickers when the Americans want $50/hour to pick a watermelon. It's worth their while to hire what legals they can...and take their chances with the illegals.

The Feds know EXACTLY whose hiring legals or illegals. There are enough snitches in this world for the Feds to know everything.

24 posted on 08/29/2014 7:31:07 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cripplecreek
I know if I were running one of these citizen patrols I would be more than happy to file a daily plan with the BP. Both for the sake of safety and the fact that it frees the BP up for other areas.

ABSOLUTELY!!
Great idea.

25 posted on 08/29/2014 7:32:00 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I used to provide software for ag accounting and payroll systems way back in my younger days. We used to require documents and social security numbers for adding new employees and thought we were doing a great job. Found out later they could buy counterfeit documents on the black market for peanuts.


26 posted on 08/29/2014 7:33:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Don’t you just love how the Ass. Press calls them “immigrants?”


27 posted on 08/29/2014 7:36:01 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Politicians and diapers must be changed often for the same reason)
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To: Jim Robinson

Militia.
I know of them.......


28 posted on 08/29/2014 7:38:50 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: Jim Robinson
I used to provide software for ag accounting and payroll systems way back in my younger days. We used to require documents and social security numbers for adding new employees and thought we were doing a great job. Found out later they could buy counterfeit documents on the black market for peanuts.

Oh dear.
Then, when the IRS sent forms for income tax, they were nowhere to be found. We lost all the way around.

The Mexican government hands out pamphlets on how to sneak into the USA. That same government has ITS southern border closed tighter than a tick.
Their government is behind the Mexico-USA border disaster and our government KNOWS that too. We taxpayers just have to eat it.

YOU did it the right way. And when it all comes down to it, that is what is important.

29 posted on 08/29/2014 7:39:23 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Jim Robinson

National Guard Turns to Food Banks Because Rick Perry Hasn’t Paid Them Yet
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/08/national-guard-troops-turn-to-food-bank-because-rick-perry-hasnt-paid-them-yet/379384/

(Update 3:30pm: In a statement to The Wire Gov. Perry’s press office challenged the account given by the RGV food bank, and said the Texas National Guard only has a record of two troops receiving aid.)

snip

First, the suggestion that Guardsmen aren’t getting paid is false. They are getting paid on a regular schedule with their first pay day on Sept. 5, then every two weeks after that. Second, based on information provided by the Texas National Guard, two soldiers sought and received assistance through the Family Assistance Coordinator. Family Assistance Coordinators routinely help Guardsmen all across the state with needs they may have, regardless of deployment or duty status. Also, based on information provided by the Guard, they currently have no indication that any Guardsmen received any assistance from the Rio Grande Valley Food Bank.


30 posted on 08/29/2014 7:39:45 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: cripplecreek

thanks for the video


31 posted on 08/29/2014 7:40:00 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: cripplecreek
A Mexican immigrant living near the border makes no bones about how he feels about illegals.

I watched it. THANKS for the link!
He did it the right way and I don't blame him for being angry at our pimp president-without backbone. The buck stops with our our pimp president without a VESTIGE of any cajones.

I have a Mexican cousin in Dallas, working for a Mexican company in the USA. It took HER years and years of waiting to get her U.S. citizenship. It annoys the HOLY PIE outta her to see the "wetbacks." But, she knows that the corruption begins in MEXICO with their uber corrupt government politicians...so she tries not to think of it too much cuz there's not a dang thing she can do about it.

32 posted on 08/29/2014 7:49:13 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: BenLurkin

In a sane world that is what would happen.

It will never happen in Obama’s America.


33 posted on 08/29/2014 7:49:24 PM PDT by Bobalu (Hashem Yerachem (May God Have Mercy)
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To: Salvation
Satan and his minions are alive and well, provoking the standard Catholic bashing. This time the aim is directed at the Holy Eucharist. But, that's been happening for 2000 years now so I don't think it will stop here.

I don't bash other faiths but that doesn't stop the Catholic haters, does it?

34 posted on 08/29/2014 7:55:04 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Lets Roll NOW; Jane Long

Musta been a Cracker.


35 posted on 08/29/2014 8:03:40 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: cripplecreek
They need to coordinate with the border patrol.

When I spent a week with the Texas Border Volunteers, we always did. Everytime we caught illegals, we held them and called BPs ASAP. They always knew where we were.

36 posted on 08/29/2014 8:08:19 PM PDT by montag813
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To: cloudmountain

Are you sure you intended that comment for this thread?


37 posted on 08/29/2014 8:11:29 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Omar”. JFC.


38 posted on 08/29/2014 8:11:46 PM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: montag813

We don’t have a lot of illegals wading across Lake Superior but if we did I’d be the first to volunteer to spend a couple weeks every summer sitting on a bluff overlooking the lake. LOL


39 posted on 08/29/2014 8:13:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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40 posted on 08/29/2014 8:17:15 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Ken522
A Border Patrol agent with a gun is a very very dangerous person ....

He was not arrested

Why wasn't he arrested? This armed person fired on a citizen on private property doing nothing threatening or illegal.

41 posted on 08/29/2014 8:41:37 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: Jim Robinson

So, BP can fire warning shots and get away with it?

Or is he really a bad shot?


42 posted on 08/29/2014 8:44:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: cripplecreek

They need to return fire.


43 posted on 08/29/2014 8:47:55 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: ASA Vet

That was my reaction. The BP agent just opened fire at the sight of a gun. No other cause.


44 posted on 08/29/2014 8:49:45 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: TigersEye
If you or I did that we'd be charged with attempted murder.
45 posted on 08/29/2014 9:12:23 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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To: ASA Vet

Yes, I think so. American LEOs of all types need to get it straight, Americans can and do own guns and have the right and legal authority to use them when threatened.


46 posted on 08/29/2014 9:18:46 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Jim Robinson

That’s probably the BP’s new job mission— let in anyone who wants to come in. and shoot anyone who tries to stop people from coming in.


47 posted on 08/29/2014 9:21:42 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (If you're on the same side of Ferguson as Al and Jesse, then you F-ed up somewhere. Rethink it dummy)
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To: Lets Roll NOW
I thought the BP could not shoot at anyone, isn’t that how two agents went to jail a few years back?

They can't shoot illegal mexicans, but Americans.................they can shoot all day!

48 posted on 08/29/2014 9:42:15 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Jim Robinson
"It just creates a problem from my point of view, because we don't know who they are," Lucio said.

oh good grief, Lucio. How many illegals from guatamala are gonna be wearing camo standing around in plain view? Coulda been a kid squirrel hunting.

49 posted on 08/29/2014 9:47:41 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Lets Roll NOW

I really hate to sound so politically incorrect here, but...

He probably did not look like a mexican.

Border Patrol agents are obviously not allowed to shoot at mexicans.

Just look back at the FR archives to read the news reports about not only enemy fire coming from the other side of the border aimed against the BP there, but the blatant flying of a mexican helicoptor with prominent markings overflying agents with total disregard of the illegality of the act since they had no jurisdiction on our side of the border and the BP agents doing nothing at all in response.

I will not publicly say what their responce SHOULD have been...


50 posted on 08/29/2014 10:16:19 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzlims trying to kill them-)
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