Skip to comments.Ukraine crisis: Putin hopes for peace deal by Friday
Posted on 09/03/2014 1:21:31 AM PDT by tcrlafEdited on 09/03/2014 6:47:04 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he is hoping for a peace agreement to be reached between Ukraine and pro-Russian rebels by Friday.
Mr Putin urged both sides to stop military action in eastern Ukraine, adding that his views and those of his Ukrainian counterpart were very close.
Ukraine President Petro Poroshenko said they had agreed a "ceasefire process".
US President Barack Obama said he stood with Ukraine's people because they had a right to determine their own future.
Speaking in the Estonian capital Tallinn, Mr Obama also said Nato would guarantee the independence of the Baltic states.
"You've lost your independence once before, with Nato you'll never lose it again," he said.
A Nato summit opening in Wales on Thursday is expected to back plans for a rapid response force.
Kramer was right! Ukraine IS weak.
Best to surrender before Obama arrives to “help” them.
Now confirmed by tweets from CNN, RT, ABC,AFP
Full statement from Ukraine presidents office on cease-fire agreement with Russia
Ukraine saying this is a PERMANENT Ceasefire.
That’s a HUGE change in rhetoric from just last night.
Tweet from Malachy Brown, Irish Journalist :
Deputy PM of DNR Vladimir Antyufeyev told me he welcomes cease-fire but is not authorized to say if they’ll adhere to it
RT Journo in Donetsk saying DNR leaders just now learning about it.
Welcome to the 21st Century, where Twitter is the new Newswire of old.
Obama’s “Speech” is now a news conference.
And he’s already late.
Brakbrak will read about it in the Weekly Reader next month.
0bama: Peace in our time.
For Poroshenko to agree to a “permanent” ceasefire now, despite the inevitable backlash that will come from the Right Sector Extremists, tells me that Kiev is very close to a complete military/economic collapse.
Remember, he tried to offer a ceasefire about 3 weeks ago, and Paruiby threatened to resign, and march on the Gov.
Different news coming out of the Kremlin now, from the Spokesman Pekov:
-PUTIN SPOKESMAN SAYS PUTIN AND POROSHENKO DID NOT AGREE ON CEASEFIRE BECAUSE RUSSIA IS NOT A PARTY TO UKRAINE CONFLICT - RIA NEWS AGENCY
Which means that Poroshenko is declaring it “unilaterally”
-PUTIN, POROSHENKO DISCUSSED STEPS TO CEASE-FIRE: PESKOV
Obama Presser just started.
The Evil Empire is back
Now they just need to peacefully arrest the illegal alien soldiers and execute them
How is that possible when Russia has nothing to do with “separatists” ?
Russia has their precious Sudetenlands
Evil Empire Russia only attacked because Ukraine is weak, duh
How many days until the occupied territories are annexed?
Russia is 100% lying
“Now they just need to peacefully arrest the illegal alien soldiers and execute them”
Good luck with that.
Estonian president Ilves just now on reported cease-fire deal between Ukraine and Russia: “I just hope it works.”
Live now on CNN
Ukraine needs a nuclear weapons program and a medium-range missile
I don’t ever watch CNN, it is not a reliable media outlet.
The so-called “sanctions” should stay in place until Russia surrenders the illegally occupied land.
Listening to Obama now, totally parsing on Ukraine and sounds like he is basically saying he isn’t going to do a damn thing.....no wonder Ukraine is surrendering.
lol,....President Obama just said the murderers of Steven Sotloff and James Foley have already failed because “their horrific acts only unite us”
Coming from a failed President, that is really not saying a lot......a load of waffle coming out of Estonia today
OK, In Obama’s world the more Americans who are beheaded the better it is, since they lose....
wait a sec
Merkel and Obama both refused to send any weapons.
Yup that’s about it, stuttering, freezing, stammering, this is not a man in control of his agenda.
Seriously this guy is suitable only for teleshopping ads and thats about it.
Merkel because she needs russian gas and Obama because he really does not give a flying foxtrot and probably could not point to ukraine on a map.
Poor Ukraine thought the world would come help it against Putin, how wrong they were to trust countries who are dependent on Russian energy or a guy who frankly is disengaged and could not give a stuff.
Ukraine is not going to shed more lives to control people who reject its rule.
I think its sensible - of course the loss of the Donbass is a huge defeat for the Maidan regime in Kiev but it had to realistically face the prospect it could count on no real help from the West.
This is far larger than the loss of Crimea but freed of a hostile Russian-speaking population, the country can now rebuild and develop closer ties with the West.
American President Barack Obama has denounced journalist Steven Sotloff’s murder as “a horrific act of violence” and insisted that the US would not be “intimidated” by militants’ threats.
Speaking before he arrives in Wales later today, Mr Obama said: “Whatever these murderers think they will achieve by killing innocent Americans like Steven, they have already failed.
“They have failed because, like people round the world, Americans are repulsed by their barbarism. We will not be intimidated. Their horrific acts only unite us as a country and stiffen our resolve to take the fight against these terrorists.
“Those who make the mistake of harming Americans will learn that we will not forget, that our reach is long and that justice will be served.”
USD Dollar falling HARD on ceasefire news.
“Ukraine needs a nuclear weapons program and a medium-range missile”
What Ukraine “needs” is a way to keep the heat and lights on this winter.
Worked all night, now I’m off for fresh, hot donuts.
Can someone else keep this live thread running for the next 40 minutes or so?
The REAL question now:
Are the Right Sector and Oligarch militias going to honor the Poroshenko-declared cease-fire?
Based upon the death and destruction the Ukrainian regime has brought to the people of eastern Ukraine I don’t see any uniting of that country for a long time. I wouldn’t forgive and forget.
Sure - if Obama says so.
Back when he was a US Senator, he was insisting Al Qaeda had nothing to do with Iraq.
What a difference a decade makes.
Putin won. The western Ukraine will be semi-independent states—when things cool down he will take them with a few votes.
beheadings does what it says on the tin, those guys are dead, murdered, that’s not failure, does what it did, sent a message.
On the other hand, Obama went golfing, went to fundraisers, did nothing, that too sent a message....the WRONG one.
That’s not going to happen.
Novo Rossiya is more or less de facto independent and can expect to prosper with Russian help.
And Russia did not need to capture Kiev to force the fight out of it. Putin is the big winner in a conflict he looked like he was on the verge of losing back in February.
No one now is going to defy Moscow.
Yup, its the reality of todays warfare, this is not 1939 when wars were fought with huge armies, these days its economic, tech, strategic.
Its not 1939 europe when armies were mobilized against Hitler, this is gas reliance, economic reliance, payoffs.
There is a lot of people reliant on russian energy, winter is getting closer, Putin turned the screws, its not hero worship, its just where the power lies and a man like Obama who is about as useful as a chocolate teapot.
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