Under what? Poll: One-third of Americans want God out of Pledge

Washington Times ^ | September 4, 2014 | Meredith somers

[SecondAmendment]

Sorry, the 1/3 who want to remove “Under God” ARE, BY DEFINITION, NOT AMERICANS.

[Timber Rattler]

Alternate headline: “Two-thirds of Americans want God in Pledge.”

[Viennacon]

A poll by the American Humanist Association is as good as a poll by Al Qaeda.

[workerbee]

I will admit I haven't yet read the article, but here's my thoughts anyway based on the headline: Complete and total BS. In the first place, anyone who cares about the Pledge enough to answer a SURVEY about it, is NOT someone who will rant that "under God" should be removed. Stupid, crap-ass stuff like this is fabricated by some commie pissants, disseminated by their fellow travelers in the Democrat Propoganda Department media, and used to create a perception... which further, is launched onto a million social network pages, until this time next year, some dingbat House member is sponsoring a bill to bring "hope and change" to the masses.

[Sooth2222]

"The Pledge of Allegiance was written in August 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931), who was a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850–1898)."

"The original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's arrival in the Americas. The event was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham, a marketer for the magazine, as a campaign to instill the idea of American nationalism in students and sell flags to public schools. According to author Margarette S. Miller this was in line with Upham's vision which he "would often say to his wife: 'Mary, if I can instill into the minds of our American youth a love for their country and the principles on which it was founded, and create in them an ambition to carry on with the ideals which the early founders wrote into The Constitution, I shall not have lived in vain.'"

Bellamy's original Pledge read as follows:

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

"The Pledge was supposed to be quick and to the point. Bellamy designed it to be recited in 15 seconds. As a socialist, he had initially also considered using the words equality and fraternity but decided against it – knowing that the state superintendents of education on his committee were against equality for women and African Americans."

"Francis Bellamy and Upham had lined up the National Education Association to support the "Youth's Companion" as a sponsor of the Columbus Day observance along with the use of the American flag. By June 29, 1892, Bellamy and Upham had arranged for Congress and President Benjamin Harrison to announce a proclamation making the public school flag ceremony the center of the Columbus Day celebrations (this was issued as Presidential Proclamation 335). Subsequently, the Pledge was first used in public schools on October 12, 1892, during Columbus Day observances organized to coincide with the opening of the World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago, Illinois."

[maxwellsmart_agent]

What was the question asked in the poll for that kind of a result? The way a question is worked sways the results of the poll. I cannot believe that one third of the people responded that way to an honest, straight-forward question. I would bet that if you investigate that poll, you’d find that it wasn’t straight forward the way it was asked.

[Future Snake Eater]

Poll: Two-thirds of Americans want “under God” in the Pledge.

[castlegreyskull]

Get rid of the Pledge of Allegiance all together, it is a communist invention.

[Rodamala]

Original version did not include the 2 words “under God”... It was added in the ‘50s IIRC.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Under what? Poll: One-third of Americans want God out of Pledge

Well big whoop, that means two thirds of us do. The motion fails.

Next question.

[Skepolitic]

I am rather surprised that so many commenters here understand that there is nothing at all sacred about the Pledge, with or without reference to God.

I doubt that any of the Founders would have supported any such thing if it had been proposed in 1800. James Wilson, a Declaration signatory and a USSC Justice, said that of a loyalty oath that ‘a good government does not need them’. Franklin said they are worse than useless. Noah Webster: ‘Ten thousand oaths’ could not create a faithful subject, he argued; oaths of allegiance are a ‘badge of folly, borrowed from the dark ages of bigotry.’ I am unaware of any Founders who supported the notion of a loyalty oath that had to be proclaimed at schools, sporting events, and public meetings.

I really don’t mind it if others like to recite the Pledge; it does no harm to others, so it is their right.

[castlegreyskull]

Thank you for the historical quotes; they echo my thoughts on the Pledge perfectly. Also, in a more articulate manner. To be honest, I don’t think I have ever said it as an adult.

[castlegreyskull]

I bet those same 1/3 want to replace God with Obama, in the Pledge.

[sergeantdave]

“One-third of Americans want God out of Pledge”

Cool. Let’s arm up, you leftist commies, and fight it it out in the forests, plains and hills and see who wins.

Leftist 50 IQ fascists and commies versus combat veterans. I’ll even buy you peckerhead apes a Mosin-Nagant, if you know what that is.

I’m sure that some of these leftwing morons think that Buckwheat’s Homeland Security goons have an advantage because they bought 1.2 billion rounds of cop killer bullets with an effective range of 50 meters.