Posted on 09/09/2014 2:16:38 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2
NTL: National Thug League
I know what you are saying and good questions.
I think the difference is Ray is a professional football player and football players are mentors to many kids; they do signings, fund-raising, Charities, commercials, their names and faces are on advertising. Do we really want Ray’s face on our cereal boxes and tennis shoes ads?
Remember Michael Vick? Same thing.
Professional athletes typically have "morality clauses" in their contracts, which is the legal basis their teams use when they are suspended or fired.
What's interesting in this particular case is that it looks like Ray Rice was punished twice for the same offense, which is not permitted under the collective bargaining agreement between the NFL and the NFL Players Association. His team had every right to cut him and terminate his contract, and the league has every right to suspend him, but I don't think both punishments can be imposed for the same offense. The Ravens made a mistake here that will probably be grounds for a lawsuit by Rice, if he so chooses.
Highly doubtful. His contract has a conduct clause, which he has clearly violated. No lawyer is going to touch it. His best hope is arbitration through the Player's Union.
Yeah, and how many people said, "as long as she's OK with it, it's none of our business?"
I guess the victim and the position of the crime in the scale of political correctness makes all the difference:
One large black man hits a woman who has just hit him - guilty as charged with no consideration of circumstances whatsoever.
Another large black man steals a box of cigars and throws a much smaller clerk against the wall - an ‘alleged’ crime.
Sorry, but if one isn’t proven, then neither are proven.
Two Losers
That's just foreplay for them so forget it.
Mrs./Ms. Rice needs to check out what happened to Nicole Brown Simpson who wanted the gravy train even though she knew O.J. was a thug.
Not really fair— Nicole was trying to get away. Yes, she was stupid and living so close and dating men and all — a restraining order and gated community would have helped.
The Ravens almost certainly asked the League Office whether his suspension was a violation of the conduct policy which would have put him in breach of contract. If so, they would be free to release him and this would not be a second punishment.
Vick tried the same tactic. The NFLPA/NFL sent the issue to arbitration. Vick had to replay $19.97 million of his contract to the Falcons. They had asked for $20 million.
So, precedent is pretty clear that neither the league nor the NFLPA regards a morals violation suspension and subsequent release from contract to be two distinct punishments.
Which football team is more politically incorrect — one that has the name of an ethic group, like the Washington Redskins, or one that has a player who violently beats up his wife in public?
In this case, having a team named the Redskins seems to be worse, since American Indians are known to be offended by the name, whereas, in the case of Ray Rice, his victim is perfectly okay with her husband’s behavior; in fact, Mrs. Rice seems more victimized by the Baltimore Ravens football team for firing her husband than by her husband for knocking her out in an elevator.
She suffers from Battered Spouse Syndrome, Stockholm Syndrome, participant in black thug culture, or whatever suits you.
But at the civil level, we cannot allow the violence. Not for blacks, and not for muslims, and not for pro athletes, either.
He should be prosecuted by the state, for the civil crime. It should not be up to the victim.
He jumped the shark, so to speak.
Gravy train trumps a busted head every time.
Don’t you mean when she scrapped him off her shoe?
It’s a wonder that she needed consultants to tell her that. Yet I’ve seen on black message boards where black women preened themselves on being “stronger” than white women because in their minds, white women are the ones who put up with abuse the most.
Here is the exact wording of the collective bargaining agreement (CBA) when it comes to disciplinary action against NFL players (this is under Article 46, Section 4 of the CBA):
Section 4. One Penalty: The Commissioner and a Club will not both discipline a player for the same act or conduct. The Commissioner’s disciplinary action will preclude or supersede disciplinary action by any Club for the same act or conduct.
I'm not sure that this is applicable to the Rice case, but it seems like he's got legitimate grounds for a grievance here.
I'd also point out that an "indefinite" suspension is probably not permitted under any labor agreement -- and would likely be ruled illegal in a court of law.
The NFL and the Ravens should have sat down and figured this one out before they fell all over themselves in an attempt to be the first one to impose the harshest measure possible.
Ten bucks says Rice is never going to play another game in the NFL, but that someone is going to pay him and his wife a lot of money to walk away.
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