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Oil demand growth slips to 'remarkable' 2½-year low
CNBC ^ | 11 September 2014 | Matt Clinch

Posted on 09/12/2014 1:47:17 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the reality of the Great Depression II is definitely widening, compare with the malaise and stagnation of the period 1938-1941 under the New Deal and FDR. Not until Great Britain came begging to the US with delivery of silver bullion in exchange for war material and war machines was the US even beginning to stir from its economic funk.

The war years were a huge boost to the overall economic health of the United States, even though we paid a fearsome price in terms of battle dead and wounded, and a reckless expenditure of capital we did not have at the time.


21 posted on 09/12/2014 2:16:18 PM PDT by alloysteel (Most people become who they promised they would never be.)
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To: expat_panama
Warning! Worldwide economic slow down?
22 posted on 09/12/2014 2:25:07 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: expat_panama
Another indicator?

Macau revs down for third straight month.
http://www.onlinepoker.net/poker-news/casino-news/macau-casino-revenues-3rd-straight-month-august/24408

23 posted on 09/12/2014 2:27:17 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Lorianne

Oil prices are too low for producers without refining facilities to break even, but gas prices around some tourist areas on the CO Rockies are around $4 per gallon (some profit there).


24 posted on 09/12/2014 2:30:22 PM PDT by familyop ("The Romans and their Empire were but a bauble in comparison to the Jews." --President John Adams)
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To: Lorianne

growth should not be confused with consumption

although the rate of growth declined, there was still growth


25 posted on 09/12/2014 2:32:33 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Zhang Fei

Yes, that would be accurate.


26 posted on 09/12/2014 2:34:19 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Lorianne

In any other industry, this would have prices plummeting. But not in the oil/gasoline business. Our stations just raised the price about a dime a gallon.


27 posted on 09/12/2014 2:57:06 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: CMailBag
I caused it.

I just "retired" from my "day job", and no longer commute 227 miles 'round trip per day. That reduces fuel demand.

Now I am able to concentrate on my Amsoil business.

On average, each of my customers and dealers, as they convert to Amsoil uses about 8% less fuel.

Amsoil lubricants themselves are not petroleum based, thereby reducing crude oil consumption.

edsanders@edsanders.com for more on the topic.

28 posted on 09/12/2014 4:44:04 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: Lorianne

Given the length of the obama depression, it may not just be the cost of gas anymore. People may no longer be able to buy, maintain, and insure their cars anymore


29 posted on 09/12/2014 4:48:25 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Chgogal
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS!!! I was trying to remember what the other business sector having big time layoffs was --GAMING!  Atlantic City casinos announce layoffs totaling 315 workers
30 posted on 09/12/2014 6:02:16 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Demand destruction for retail gasoline in the US over the last 10 years has been a lot more than remarkable, it’s been beyond belief. On the order of a 40% drop.

I don't know where you heard that but it isn't close to true.

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31 posted on 09/12/2014 6:18:58 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney
I don't know where you heard that but it isn't close to true.

Don't know where I saw the stats on it. Wish I did, like to go back and reread it.

Thanks for the correction.

32 posted on 09/12/2014 6:22:01 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Sacajaweau
Not really a trick, just people jumping to expectations. Most didn't bother to read as you did.

Growth is slowing, but still growing, as it has been for a while.

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33 posted on 09/12/2014 6:23:45 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: IronJack
In any other industry, this would have prices plummeting.

Really? In what industry do prices plummet when demand growth rate slows, but still grows?

global oil demand growth for has been lowered to 900,000 million b/d in 2014 and 1.2 million b/d for 2015.

They do have an error in their numbers. I don't think the 2014 is going to grow from ~90 million b/d to 900,090 million b/d.

34 posted on 09/12/2014 6:28:27 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s; thackney
Probably this:

I remember it being discussed here and there was some explanation.

35 posted on 09/12/2014 6:35:05 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Some folks have confused the following report from the EIA with the total.

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If you will notice the 2 qualifiers, "retail" sales and "refiners".

Refineries rarely sell direct retail of gasoline to the end user. Most of their sales are to someone in the middle, wholesalers, blenders, etc.

That report used to have more meaning, but it is such a small part of the market now, I don't understand why it is still used. It is like keeping track of all the gasoline sales by left-handers with blue eyes.

36 posted on 09/12/2014 6:35:44 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: mrsmith

See post #36. I believe you are likely right in the source of the confusion.


37 posted on 09/12/2014 6:36:52 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: expat_panama
Yup, world wide - Macau and Atlantic City.

How is Las Vegas doing?

38 posted on 09/12/2014 7:14:04 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: expat_panama
Here is a two day old Forbes article about Macau and Las Vegas gambling revs. It is very interesting.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2014/09/10/how-will-the-decline-in-macau-gaming-impact-las-vegas-sands/

39 posted on 09/12/2014 7:25:19 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: thackney
In what industry do prices plummet when demand growth rate slows, but still grows?

In any industry where the increase in supply outstrips the increase in demand.

40 posted on 09/13/2014 7:19:45 AM PDT by IronJack
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