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Politicians duck ‘amnesty’ label
The Washington Times ^ | September 13, 2005

Posted on 09/17/2014 4:37:12 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

It’s “the A-Word,” and it can damn any immigration bill to oblivion.

The word is “amnesty,” or as one immigration-control advocate calls it, “the death word.” It’s a charge that a lot of people want to make and nobody wants to hear.

(SNIP)

“For some, you would think amnesty is in the eye of the beholder because there are some critics who have nothing constructive to offer who criticize every proposal as amnesty or amnesty light,” says Sen. John Cornyn, Texas Republican.

(SNIP)

“I’ve seen no guest-worker program that didn’t include amnesty — amnesty defined by Webster’s,” says Rep. Steve King. He debated the issue with White House political adviser Karl Rove in early January 2004, just before Mr. Bush announced his plan.

“Karl Rove argued it wasn’t amnesty if you simply fined them $1,000, or $1,500,” he says. “That way there’d be a punishment.”

That makes no difference to the Iowa Republican. “The penalty for illegal entry into the United States is, in part, deportation. In all cases, if the law’s applied, they have to return to their home country. Anything short of that is amnesty.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: aliens; karl; king; rove; steve
Karl Rove and Cornyn have been doing nothing but pushing amnesty and amnesty light since 2005.

"I told this to Karl Rove one day, we were having this discussion," King said. "I said, Karl, if you give me $6 million a mile, there will not be a cockroach [that will] get across my mile. I guarantee it!"

1 posted on 09/17/2014 4:37:12 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
The DECON of this election.
2 posted on 09/17/2014 4:45:16 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Democrat Senate candidates falling behind---steering clear of amnesty?

I swear---it's a dam shame Democrat Senate candidates ARE NOT beneficiaries of Obama's delay on immigration reform. The White House ding-a-lings assured Democrats the delaying tactic would help Senate candidates---b/c the delay stops the use of immigration as a grandstanding issue.

OTOH, Latino pressure groups are incensed about Obama's reneging.

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News outlets report that Obama's delaying action on immigration reform was calculated to help nervous Democrats in tight Senate races The WH said delaying amnesty would help Democrats keep control of the Senate......and prevent a powerless Obama from swinging in the wind.

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REALITY CHECK.......a tsunami of 2014 voter polls indicate massive voter revulsion for Democrats---a decisive vote of "no confidence." So much so that Democrats, themselves, forced Obama to delay his plan to E/O amnesty---hoping to stave off disaster to protect uneasy Democrats from voter wrath in November.....

But Democrat Rep. Luis Gutierrez (Dem-Ill), the leading mouthpiece for amnesty, isn't taking Obama's dismissal lying down. Gutierrez said the Congressional Hispanic Caucus will meet to determine a formal response....and seemed to issue a veiled threat to the ambitions of nervous Democrats fighting to stave off the coming disaster.

GUTIERREZ: “No more excuses, I don’t care what senator is dangling in the wind, I don’t care what Republican proposal is being made,” he said. “I don’t care what happens. We are moving forward.”

Democrat Senate candidates NEED TO DETERMINE WHETHER GUTIERREZ IS PLOTTING A COUP AGAINST DEMOCRATS?---his mouthings sound dangerously like a latino threat to vulnerable Democrats.

Question is: are Democrat Senate candidates who have been so loyal going to allow Gutierrez to threaten their re/elections?

Senate candidates need to get cracking and demand to know the details
about an individual threatening Senate candidates. For instance:

<><><> the number of identities Gutierrez is using now, or has ever used (driving a cab in Illinois);

<><><> the number of US govt check Gutierrez, his family, and his staff are cashing;

<><><> whether Gutierrez has ever been labled a ntl security threat; <><><> whether Gutierrez used infamous crooked Chicago tactics to get elected;

<><><> the list of his memberships in violent latino groups advocating the overthrow of the US govt;

<><> How many stolen Social Security numbers are his family, staff and political entourage using?

<><><> how many identities are the Guiterrez family and campaign entourage using?

<><><> are his family, supporters, and political entourage paid agents of foreign governments?

WHO IS GIVING GUTIERREZ HIS MARCHING ORDERS? Democrats need to get the FBI to subpoena Gutierrez's phone records, emails and snail mail, wire transfers, etc .....

<><> Examine his campaign contributors, foreign travel;

<><> did Gutierrez employ foreign agents as staff w/ US tax dollars?

<><> did Gutierrez ever file falsified documents w/ the federal government?

<><> did he ever make false statements on tax returns?

<><> did he ever apply for EITC refunds listing children "back Home" that are not related to him?

<><> does he earn outside income as a paid political consultant to foreign governments?

<><> did Gutierrez fail to register as an agent of a foreign government;

<><> Is Gutierrez and The Congressional Hispanic Caucus using tax dollars to conduct a coup against Democrats.

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FBI TIPS PAGE---https://tips.fbi.gov

<><> Senate candidates should demand Gutierrez, the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, La Raza, and other tax-funded latino pressure groups, be investigated.

L/E should supboena Gutierrez' official filings, phone records, emails, snail mail copies, hard drives, bank accounts, checking accounts, credit cards, debit cards, wire transfers, social media contacts, and the like.

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Senate candidates should demand to know who these people are communicating with, and who is directing their activities against Democrats.

Senate candidates should demand to know if Gutierrez, his staff, The Congressional Hispanic caucus, are colluding to dump Democrats, and whether they are consorting with violent organizations to overthrow the Democrat Party unless they get their way.

3 posted on 09/17/2014 4:46:11 PM PDT by Liz
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Pro-amnesty American citizens must think that the rest of us 300,000,000 Americans are blind and stupid.

Pro-amnesty people demand that President Obama give work visas to at least 8,000,000+ illegals.

But pro-amnesty traitors conveniently forget to mention that many of these 8,000,000 illegals who will get work visas have husbands/wives and children.

24,000,000 illegals get amnesty: Pro-amnesty people are not really talking about 8,000,000 illegals, because they secretly know in their hearts that they are really talking about more like 24,000,000 illegals----3 times 8,000,000 illegals--- who will eventually get AMNESTY when President Obama takes his pen and quickly signs his executive order in a few weeks.

how did I arrive at the number of 24,000,000 illegals? I did it this way: I multiplied 8,000,000 illegals by 3.

1. Obviously, illegal immigrant men need their wives and children to keep them company. and many of them are already here.

2. And illegal immigrant women need their husbands to help them with the children.

3. Also, these illegal immigrants with their new work visas will now have no fear that immigration agents will be coming to their home to check to see how many in the household besides the visa holder are here legally.

4. So once they get their work visas, they can invite any number of relatives to live with them without fear that immigration officials will be coming to their unexpectedly to check the status of the people in the home. As long as visa holders pay their rent on time and their children attend school, we can be sure that no immigration officials will bother them and their families.

My point is this: Work visa holders and their growing families will be here forever. Basically, deportation of these illegals and their families will never happen, if President Obama has his way and goes ahead and signs his executive order soon after the midterm election.

5. You see, you can't very well legalize 8,000,000 illegals by giving them work visas, on the one hand, and then, on the other hand, turn around and deport husbands and wives and children of the work visa holders, persons who may not qualify for work visas for one reason or the other.

6. So I believe that multiplying 8,000,000 illegals by 3 is a good conservative estimate of how many illegals will immediately benefit from President Obama's executive order---an estimate based on a household with two parents, one child.

7.Of course, many households will be single households with no children.

8.But, as we know, many, many households of illegals who will be given work visas will have two or more children, so all those many children will easily make up for those households in my 24,000,000 estimate that have no children.

9. So that is the way I concluded that 24,000,000+ illegals will really get amnesty when traitor President Obama gives away our country with the simple signing of his executive order: 8,000,000 million illegal work visa holders times a conservative estimate of 3 member's in each illegal immigrant household.

10. Again, when President Obama quickly signs his executive order soon after the mid-term elections, he will NOT be giving amnesty to just 8,000,000 illegals as the pro-amnesty people want us to believe.

11. Rather, when the smoke clears, anti-amnesty people will wake up one morning and suddenly realize that the pro-amnesty people and President Obama have pulled off one of the biggest scams in history, because President Obama will really give amnesty to 24,000,000 illegals, not 8,000,000 illegals as President Obama will claim when he signs his executive order soon after the mid-term elections.

NOTE: 'Because it was the right thing to do." This is Obama's favorite phrase when he wants to justify his decision on a controversial subject like illegal immigration.

It is as if Obama wants us to believe that his decision is divinely inspired, that is, God himself told him what to do. What a bunch of crap.

So be prepared to hear Obama's phrase---"Because it was the right thing to do"---over and over after Obama signs the worst executive order ever.

It is the worst ever because President Obama will lie to us and give amnesty to not 8,000,000 illegals as Obama will lead us to believe when he signs the executive order, but to an unbelievable number of 24,000,000 illegals. Sick. Sick. Sick.

4 posted on 09/17/2014 4:56:42 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: Liz

It’s not an amnesty...

They just get to stay here.
They don’t have to go back.
They will not be deported.
They can get green cards.
They can transition to citizenship.
They can bring in chain migrant relatives.
If there’s an exchange of money, just think of it as a bribe.

Now under an amnesty...

They just get to stay here.
They don’t have to go back.
They will not be deported.
They can get green cards.
They can transition to citizenship.
They can bring in chain migrant relatives.
If there’s an exchange of money, just think of it as a bribe.

Clearly there is a difference for all you xenophobic white racists out there that don’t care enough to become informed on the subject.

We have ways to take care of you folks...


5 posted on 09/17/2014 5:09:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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