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Syria Becomes the 7th Predominantly Muslim Country Bombed by 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate
The Intercept ^ | 23 September 2014 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 09/23/2014 9:17:16 AM PDT by Rockitz

The U.S. today began bombing targets inside Syria, in concert with its lovely and inspiring group of five allied regimes: Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and Jordan.

That means that Syria becomes the 7th predominantly Muslim country bombed by 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate Barack Obama—after Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Iraq.

The utter lack of interest in what possible legal authority Obama has to bomb Syria is telling indeed: Empires bomb who they want, when they want, for whatever reason (indeed, recall that Obama bombed Libya even after Congress explicitly voted against authorization to use force, and very few people seemed to mind that abject act of lawlessness; constitutional constraints are not for warriors and emperors).

It was just over a year ago that Obama officials were insisting that bombing and attacking Assad was a moral and strategic imperative. Instead, Obama is now bombing Assad’s enemies while politely informing his regime of its targets in advance. It seems irrelevant on whom the U.S. wages war; what matters it that it be at war, always and forever.

Six weeks of bombing hasn’t budged ISIS in Iraq, but it has caused ISIS recruitment to soar. That’s all predictable: the U.S. has known for years that what fuels and strengthens anti-American sentiment (and thus anti-American extremism) is exactly what they keep doing: aggression in that region. If you know that, then they know that. At this point, it’s more rational to say they do all of this not despite triggering those outcomes, but because of it. Continuously creating and strengthening enemies is a feature, not a bug. It is what justifies the ongoing greasing of the profitable and power-vesting machine of Endless War.

If there is anyone who actually believes that the point of all of this is a moral crusade to vanquish the evil-doers of ISIS (as the U.S. fights alongside its close Saudi friends), please read Professor As’ad AbuKhalil’s explanation today of how Syria is a multi-tiered proxy war. As the disastrous Libya “intervention” should conclusively and permanently demonstrate, the U.S. does not bomb countries for humanitarian objectives. Humanitarianism is the pretense, not the purpose.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: obama; obamaforeignpolicy; obamalies; worstpresidentever
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To: yuleeyahoo

According to Wiki:
Iraq is a Muslim-majority country; Islam accounts for an estimated 97% of the population, while non-Muslims account for just 3%.It has a mixed Shia and Sunni population. Most sources estimate that around 65% of Muslims in Iraq are Shia, and around 35% are Sunni.


21 posted on 09/23/2014 10:21:03 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (Democrats:the party of moral hazard, the IRS, the NSA and the heckler's veto)
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To: Rockitz

“Empires bomb who they want, when they want, for whatever reason”

Well, I totally agree with that. We’re in friggin’ charge, and we’ll bomb you if you cut off our citizen’s heads. We don’t ask permission. We oughtn’t even announce. We should just make your cities fall to rubble.

If you want to play nicely, we should (but aren’t) be a good friend.

If you want to play Jihad, we’ll introduce you to your 72 Virgins as quickly as possible.

Declarations of War are for other moments in history. Right now, bomb islamists who need bombing.

That’s not to approve of 0bama in any fashion. He’s an idiot. But we oughtn’t get caught up in niceties. Kill them. Now. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow. Dead. Before they kill us.


22 posted on 09/23/2014 10:32:17 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Clinton / Bush 2016?)
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To: JimRed
Id love to ask the obama zombies what they think of their peacful HOPE..ful hero now...

however...the DUmmies never let me post more than one message before canning me...

such is life on




share where...appropriate..


23 posted on 09/23/2014 10:32:18 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey (Please RESIGN Mr. President Its the RIGHT thing to do_RETIRE THE REGIME!)
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To: pluvmantelo

Okay, I was going from memory. Shia’s make up around 20% of the world’s Islamic population, Sunni is around 75%.


24 posted on 09/23/2014 11:29:14 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: GraceG

Iran is about 90 - 95% Shia, Iraq 65% Shia vs. 35% Sunni, the others are mostly Sunni.


25 posted on 09/23/2014 1:03:19 PM PDT by rwa265 (Love one another as I have loved you, says the Lord.)
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To: Rockitz
That’s all predictable: the U.S. has known for years that what fuels and strengthens anti-American sentiment (and thus anti-American extremism) is exactly what they keep doing: aggression in that region.

Sorry, but that is BS. Anti-American sentiment in that reason is fueled solely by American support for Israel and American refusal to bow before a caliphate. If the US pulled completely out of the region, the muzzie extremists would still hate America and seek to destroy her interests.

26 posted on 09/23/2014 2:36:56 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Rockitz; All

I ask the question again...

What has Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and Jordan done???

Are they flying, bombing, strafing ISIS/ISIL targets and killing these schmups???

If they are not, then they are not doing a damn thing as far as I am concerned...


27 posted on 09/23/2014 4:53:45 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: stevie_d_64

So much for a coalition Bump!


28 posted on 09/23/2014 4:55:07 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: plain talk
I just have zero confidence Obama will take ISIS out. I think he will use this to promote his agenda to get rid of dictatorships (which actually helps ISIS)

100% correct

29 posted on 09/23/2014 4:57:19 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Rockitz

And he will keep bombing them until they recognize HIM as the legitimate Caliph.


30 posted on 09/23/2014 8:38:55 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: VRWCmember
Remember, this is Glenn Greenwald. He's kind of an anti-establishment government type and very suspicious of almost any government actions.

From Wiki:

Greenwald is critical of actions jointly supported by Democrats and Republicans, writing: “The worst and most tyrannical government actions in Washington are equally supported on a fully bipartisan basis.” In the preface to his first book, How Would a Patriot Act? (2006), Greenwald opens with some of his own personal political history, describing his ‘pre-political’ self as neither liberal nor conservative as a whole, voting neither for George W. Bush nor for any of his rivals (indeed, not voting at all).

Bush's election to the U.S. presidency “changed” Greenwald’s previous uninvolved political attitude toward the electoral process “completely”, and in 2006 he wrote:

Over the past five years, a creeping extremism has taken hold of our federal government, and it is threatening to radically alter our system of government and who we are as a nation. This extremism is neither conservative nor liberal in nature, but is instead driven by theories of unlimited presidential power that are wholly alien, and antithetical, to the core political values that have governed this country since its founding”; for, “the fact that this seizure of ever-expanding presidential power is largely justified through endless, rank fear-mongering—fear of terrorists, specifically—means that not only our system of government is radically changing, but so, too, are our national character, our national identity, and what it means to be American.”

31 posted on 09/24/2014 6:19:40 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: VRWCmember

Ultimately, I posted this piece for the title alone.


32 posted on 09/24/2014 6:21:49 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz

it was a priceless headline.


33 posted on 09/24/2014 9:29:40 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Jane Long; All

Just this morning before the idiot in chief got up in front of his crew (of thugs) at the UN...

I saw “some details...

The U.A.E. “flew” 4 F-16’s (that’s it, no mention of what they did, other than fly...)

Bahrain “flew” 2 F-16’s

Jordan “flew” 4 F-16’s

I can’t recall the country as I’m typing this from memory, but someone over there put up (flew) a handful of Mirage 2000’s...

Until I see (verifiable) actual bombs fall from the racks of these countries planes, onto actual ISIS/ISIL targets IN Iraq and Syria, I do not believe there is a coalition...


34 posted on 09/24/2014 9:53:22 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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