Posted on 10/18/2014 4:45:34 AM PDT by chrisnj
Many conservative voters are disillusioned at the Republicans for not standing up for their principles, for compromising with the Democrats, for having no spines etc. etc. They vow not to vote for the Republicans, or outright vote for the Democrats, to send them a message, to teach them a lesson. I think this kind of message/lesson serves no purpose but to cut off your own supply of oxygen.
Almost all the Republicans rejected obumbocrap (obamacare) but Harry Reid and his crooked Dems jammed it through deviously. The House Republicans have passed many legislations to repeal obumbocrap but Reid et al killed them all. The House Republicans have passed many good legislations but Reid and his crooks buried them all. The media blasted the Republicans on all their good constitutional/conservative acts, but remained silent on the Democrats' constant acts to destroy the constitution. This is a known fact and all of us always complain about it. Yet we are not showing any understanding of the difficult situations facing the House Republicans. While the Dem voters are behind their Dems 100%, we are demanding perfection while offering no help. We blame the Republicans for this and that but we are not working hard to create an opportunity or situation where they can stand on their principles and serve us faithfully. Why don't we vote them into majority in both House and Senate, so they have more control and feel less pressured to compromise, but more encouraged to listen to us to enact constitutional legislations for the good of the country. This is not excuses for the Republicans' non-performance. It is simply a fact that a good person can only do so much under difficult situations! We should understand that it is human nature to be rather weak, especially when under pressure. But given the favorable situations we are more likely to stand up taller for our principles. Remember when the Republicans were the majority in both Houses - even with a Democrat president Clinton, Congress was able to serve the people well! So if we are able to vote the Republicans into the majority, we just might be able to influence them into reversing the course to get our country back on the right track. Considering that many people have awaken and patriots are much more enthusiatically engaged in shaping government policies, we can realistically hope to get better leaders who will listen to the people again. All we need to do is unite and vote the crooks out but vote the acceptable albeit imperfect Republican candidates in, then work hard to influence them...
Certainly, with rampant voter fraud, ignorant and low-information voters, AND, the conservatives who vow to stay home or vote for the Dems, there is no hope that the Republicans will be in control of both Houses. It was said that those conservatives who wouldn't vote for the Republicans are part of the reasons why the Dems won the elections. So these conservatives are in effect cutting off the supply of oxygen to their own hopes (and our hopes)!
History suggests that the Republicans are more constitution-abiding leaders. We need to create the opportunities for them to abide to the constituion - by voting them into majority and then pressuring them into serving the people the way they should.
“Come on Charlie Brown, kick the football”.
The GOP is the only legal entity that could have stopped the destruction of America. Instead, Carl Rove and the Bush gang and their fellow GOP elites are carving out thier own domains and hope to only stem the blood as the rest die for them.
Spineless republicans get more conservative when they are amongst conservative republicans. They will follow the pack.
You can’t teach politicians a lesson. It’s a binary question and all they care about is votes. If conservatives want conservative politicians we need to get involved. Lobby the politicians, fund the politicians we want, and get involved in the process. Get off your sofa and get involved.
The idea of taking out a particular RINO or two is one thing.
Handing team nazi the ball and going to pout on the sidelines makes those people just as bad.
Well said.
Assume for a moment that some of the Republicans are actually closet Democrats. Would you still feel the same?
On what issues are the RINOs willing to compromise to get conservative votes and money?
--there will be those who claim that a Romney win would have been the equivalent of the mess we are in now--hogwash---
I agree with you. And I beleieveI hold some pretty deep conservative principles.
If folks stay home and the dumblecrats continue to win, then the conservative will be more marginalized than ever. They are not just fighting a party and their own party, they are fighting a press who continually hammers and insults, lies about the conservative position and denigrates them with complete impugnity. Even friendly outlets like Fox are becoming more left as they see the shift left.
So they can keep their principles pure in little silver boxes and curse as the broader culture turn its back on them until they will not be heard at all.
We continue to dream of some great conservative awakening that will sweep the country and all of their beliefs and creeds will suddenly be wondrously embraced and the eagles will fly with olive branches against a shining sun.
Ain’t gonna happen. Some swelling here, a few more conservatives elected there but we do not have an educated base from which to draw...smart young people who can be brought into the fold because we allow OUR kids to be victims of insidious indoctrination...even in good or Christian schools.
I am sucking it in and voting for Thom Tillis here because while he is the eGOP darling and my guy Bannon lost, I KNOW Hagan MUST be defeated, pretty much at all costs.
I know...I can see the posts about how principle triumphs and how much better sleep will be because those principles won out over compromise..
But I fear it will come at the cost of the destruction of the country.
Last week when you guys tried appealing to our humanity, it backfired and brought more people to our side. Please, keep posting this nonsense. By 16, we will have complete unity against the GOP and for conservative candidates.
I argue with some on here constantly on these points and the fact they decided to “protest” by not voting. I then thank them for voting odumbo in office. They do not like this.
—agree completely—
RINOs only care about their power. They don’t really care about any issues.
To get RINO to support conservative causes you just have to appeal to their lust for power, money and reelection.
We can win by chipping away at the rock. It’s how the pyramids were built and we can do it too. There is no perfect candidate and never will be. Vote for the best candidate and then work to get your issue resolved.
Yea we can see how well your approach works.
Every October in an election year, Free Republic goes wobbly.
No. If we know they are closet Dems certainly no. Hopefully we find out. If they are known Rinos that can be persuaded one way or the other, I will take them for now. Then give them a chance to prove themselves among the whole pack. If they still go the Dem way, then bye bye.
I am talking about voting in all that we can find into both Houses, be it 30% conservatives, 7o% ‘Rinos’, or 70% conservatives, 30 Rinos. Then work on them. We certainly can’t work on the Dems, can we?
How long will it take for the noisy few to show up. The one’s who actually think they are the principled, engaged in liberating the nation of RINO’s and big R republican’s while giving the rest of us the likes of Harry Reid and the ONE.
Thanks a bunch.
I do understand your feelings of being stiffed just once too many times by the stupid party, but...
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