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Republican bosses: We WILL repeal Obamacare.(shortened to fit)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2823649/Republican-bosses-repeal-Obamacare-McConnell-Boehner-promise-showdown-White-House-lame-duck-president-s-key-policy.html ^

Posted on 11/07/2014 1:01:33 AM PST by kelly4c

title continued: McConnell and Boehner promise showdown with White House over lame duck president's key policy

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boehner; elections; mcconnell; obamacare
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I especially loved this, thank you Mr. Cruz:

"The promise to repeal Obamacare comes after Texas Sen. Ted Cruz refused to throw his support behind McConnell for majority leader. For Cruz and other senators of his ilk, the absolute top priority of the new Republican majority after jumpstarting the economy is getting rid of Obamacare. They are also hell bent on stopping President Barack Obama from implementing 'illegal amnesty.'"

1 posted on 11/07/2014 1:01:33 AM PST by kelly4c
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To: kelly4c

Would it be possible for Cruz to stop McConnell from becoming majority leader?


2 posted on 11/07/2014 1:04:44 AM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: kelly4c

“Furthermore Cruz, a presumed 2016 presidential candidate, has said several times on the campaign trail this fall that to him, the issue at the crux of the midterm elections was immigration reform and Obama’s promise to save millions of illegal immigrants from deportation through an executive order.”


3 posted on 11/07/2014 1:04:44 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: VerySadAmerican

I wouldn’t think so, at least not formally.


4 posted on 11/07/2014 1:05:23 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: kelly4c

Good for them I hope they succeed, as obozocare has nothing to do with compassion and everything with people control with the original intent to keep socialists in perpetual power. We have one of the best healthcare system in this world and along comes this clown and does everything possible to change it in order to suit his ideology.

What our existing healthcare system needed was some fine tuning and adjustments here and there, along with a dialog between healthcare professionals and law givers. But no, socialists invariable go at it with a sledge hammer and half baked and as usual it ends in a disaster and no one is happy and it doesn’t work to boot.


5 posted on 11/07/2014 1:12:38 AM PST by saintgermaine (Is she somehow related)
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To: kelly4c

Maybe it’s good to have ObamaCare around for the next two years. Some of the worst parts (which Obama delayed) will be coming into force soon. If you think the Democrats did bad on Tuesday, just think how bad it will be after two years of anger building up in the American people.


6 posted on 11/07/2014 1:26:12 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: kelly4c
it’ll take 60 votes to repeal it and Republicans will have nowhere near that amount

Not so - since it was passed using the reconciliation procedure on a mere majority vote, then it can be repealed on 51 votes using reconciliation.

Yes, Obama will veto it, but so what - we need to get every Democrat Senator and every Democrat House member in the new Congress on record before the 2016 election as to where they stand on Obamacare.

7 posted on 11/07/2014 1:27:54 AM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: kelly4c

Deeds, not words.


8 posted on 11/07/2014 1:38:09 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Clappin' the Blues (remix)" [slightly NSFW] - http://youtu.be/p9d2iHSfRmE)
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To: kelly4c

Wow! What a turnaround! The day after the election, McConnell said he would NOT be going after Obamacare and now, after the lightest prod from Cruz with a dull stick, he crumbles like a bad fortune cookie and says repeal is a top priority...
These guys can’t be that limp-wristed. The dems MUST have some dirt on them that forces them to keep trying to surrender..


9 posted on 11/07/2014 2:06:47 AM PST by ArtDodger
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To: Meet the New Boss
Yes, Obama will veto it, but so what - we need to get every Democrat Senator and every Democrat House member in the new Congress on record before the 2016 election as to where they stand on Obamacare.

Best of all possible outcomes, especially since, as you say in a previous post, more and more negative aspects of obozocare will become evident in the next 2 years.

If this issue is handled right, there will be a republican landslide in 2016.

10 posted on 11/07/2014 2:15:50 AM PST by samtheman
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To: kelly4c

To McConnell & Boehner - We don’t believe you. We don’t trust you. We don’t want Obamacare tinkered with, fixed, or replaced. We want it GONE.


11 posted on 11/07/2014 2:45:22 AM PST by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: kelly4c
I think Cruz knows that there are more than enough Democrats in the Senate who would be willing to override a presidential veto if the bill in question is aimed at repealing some targeted provisions of ObamaCare such as the individual mandate.

I don't think the Democrats are too concerned about losing the Senate. Since this was a year when the Democrats had a lot more seats to defend, and since many of those seats were in states that weren't exactly Democratic strongholds, I believe most Democrats would have admitted behind the scenes that this was not likely to be a good election year for them.

However, I also think the Democrats have been shaken to the core by other Election Day results. They probably believed (as did I) that the laws of the physical universe prevented Republicans from winning governor's races in Marxist states like Massachusetts, Maryland and Illinois.

12 posted on 11/07/2014 3:19:36 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: VerySadAmerican
Would it be possible for Cruz to stop McConnell from becoming majority leader?

No.

13 posted on 11/07/2014 3:21:03 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The most discouraging speech by McConnell, after the results were in, was the one where he said that they would go after the parts of Obamacare that most outrage Americans, “like the medical device tax”.

Now, I know the medical device tax is stupid, worse than stupid, in fact. But the only Americans who are “outraged by the medical device tax” go to work on K street every day.

Bad, bad, BAD to confess, in public no less, that the only Americans that matter to you are the ones you meet for dinner at the Palm.


14 posted on 11/07/2014 3:25:37 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: saintgermaine

The “system” needs more than just some fine tuning. It needs government totally out of it, period.

Getting predetermination of costs for a hernia operation, the hospital, surgeon and gas passer charges would have been billed to insurance somewhere in the neighbor hood of $50,000. If I elected to pay cash it came down to something close to $15,000.

Doing some research on private surgical centers, I ended up paying a cash price of about $4200.

The “system” is the problem so long as hospitals and their willing accomplices in the insurance industry depend on the government to keep fleecing the public.

This unholy alliance has been building a public dependency for decades and they are the reason the “system” is broken. They broke it so they could do like any other “program” to be the only ones who could fix it, just like they fix every other damned government “program”.


15 posted on 11/07/2014 3:27:27 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Jim Noble

I disagree with you on that one. Look at how strongly the senior voter demographic turned out for the GOP in this election. This move to dump the medical device tax is nothing more than pandering to these core supporters. Oddly enough, THIS may even have stronger legs than a move to dump the individual mandate ... since the individual mandate affects people who are mostly Obama supporters anyway.


16 posted on 11/07/2014 3:29:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: ArtDodger

They actually said they wanted to repeal it, but that Obama would veto it so they had a back-up plan aimed at individual provisions (which might get enough Dem support to override a veto, whereas it might be hard to do that for the full “Obamacare” act).

I would suspect that what has happened is that the GOP have found that there are a lot of Dems who don’t want Obamacare tied around their necks, and now that Obama has turned out to be the kiss of death at the polling place, they’d be okay with opposing him. So there might actually be enough votes to override a veto, in which case Obama, to spare himself any further embarrassment, might not even veto it (although he will blame the GOP for the fact that “Obamacare” sucked in the first place, even though none of them voted for it).


17 posted on 11/07/2014 3:29:57 AM PST by livius
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To: mazda77
You raise a lot of good points there. But the government isn't really the problem at all. The problem is that the health care industry is one of the few industries in the U.S. that relies almost entirely on third party payment (government programs, private insurance, etc.) for its existence.

There's no way to "fix" this unless you're willing to turn medical insurance into something very small and aimed at dealing with specific maladies and injuries -- sort of like how homeowner's insurance and auto insurance work. As long as you have a third party involved in a financial transaction that intermediary between a buyer and a seller, you'll always have distorted pricing and financial arrangements that are idiotic on their face.

18 posted on 11/07/2014 3:38:03 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: samtheman; Meet the New Boss
"Best of all possible outcomes, especially since, as you say in a previous post, more and more negative aspects of obozocare will become evident in the next 2 years.

If this issue is handled right, there will be a republican landslide in 2016."

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Leave enough ObamaCare around to stink up the room in 2016.

19 posted on 11/07/2014 3:57:01 AM PST by hummingbird (US = Koyaanisqatsi.)
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To: livius

“They actually said they wanted to repeal it..”
My memory recalls McConnell not having any appetite for taking it on. When asked about his top priority, he said it was to hold the majority in the 2016 election.
I don’t mean to come across as bitter, but this election has given Liberty a chance undo the last 6 (or more) years and these two leaders just don’t seem up to the task..


20 posted on 11/07/2014 3:57:58 AM PST by ArtDodger
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