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Jonathan Gruber speaks to Noblis about Obamacare 01-18-2012
me ^ | November 12, 2014 | me

Posted on 11/12/2014 11:21:04 AM PST by machogirl

I took one for the team and listened to this guy on a new tape for 52 minutes.

Another Gruber video. This guy did travel the Country, speaking about the Obamacare-sham and DID REPEATEDLY to many groups, that O'care was: complicated, political, that the STATES IF NO EXCHANGES are set up their citizens will pay the "tax" but NO tax credits, and blah blah blah, and some INTERESTING NUGGETS.


TOPICS: US: California; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; california; gruber; jonathangruber; nancypelosi; noblis; obama; obamacare; stupidvoters
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I took notes. 2:35 Most Americans happy with their healthca Why not politically feasible? You don't take away something from take away something that makes 250 million happy to make 50 million happy. 250 Million were happy with their healthcare.

'The HERO of the story is Mitt Romney'. lol

At approx 19 minutes he recommends you DON'T READ the ACA. (you need him, the administration, democrats, and his book to "explain" to you about the law).

Talks about 30 minutes and takes questions. Noblis is a "great good" company. "Noblis is a dynamic nonprofit science, technology, and strategy organization with a unique mission to solve complex scientific systems, process, and infrastructure problems in ways that benefit the public. Our name speaks to our calling to use the best of science and technology to serve the public's interest. And the roots of our great mission go back to the 1940s."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnEmPXEpr0

1 posted on 11/12/2014 11:21:04 AM PST by machogirl
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To: machogirl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnEmPXEpr0


2 posted on 11/12/2014 11:21:57 AM PST by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Let me be the first to thank you for putting up with that in full :)


3 posted on 11/12/2014 11:23:59 AM PST by MAKOTHEDOG
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To: machogirl

Thank you for your service, Machogirl. I watched almost an hour of Gruber the other day when another video of him came out so I think I’ve done my duty. My BS tank is now full.


4 posted on 11/12/2014 11:24:33 AM PST by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby. LIFB.)
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To: machogirl

His voice alone is enough to make my skin crawl.


5 posted on 11/12/2014 11:26:34 AM PST by all the best
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To: machogirl

Here are two articles about that video - I watched around the 31:25 mark suggested at the second link.

ObamaCare Architect Insulting Small Businesses in Newly Released Video

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/11/obamacare_architect_insulting.html

In yet another video uncovered on the scheming behind the Affordable Care Act, MIT economist Jonathan Gruber told an elite circle of NOBLIS policy wonks in 2012 that he reluctantly wrote tax credits for small businesses into the bill because he didn’t want to look like a “communist.”

Different article:
Obamacare Architect Admitted in 2012 States without Exchanges Lose Subsidies

https://cei.org/blog/obamacare-architect-admitted-2012-states-without-exchanges-lose-subsidies


6 posted on 11/12/2014 11:27:54 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: machogirl

He didn’t call people “stupid” in this one, because I’m guessing that he wasn’t in front of the “academia”. But, it’s complicated, we need explaining, we need the Govt. to tell us if a health procedure is warranted or not, it’s unfair if you have health insurance from an employer, we don’t know how it will all work, but it’s a breathing living document and after we have all the research we have allocated money for in the ACA, then we will know, tax system is a bribe for rich people, rich people consume too much of healthcare, there is lots more BS, and my eyes are glazed over.

Three threats to Obamacare: Supreme Court, the Election, and the States. Said it was no big deal if your employer dumped providing insurance.

Said that a Doctor getting paid for each and everything they do to you was like a Butcher getting paid (selling you meat that you don’t need). Of course, the Govt. is the solution in “managing” costs and your healthcare.

Said there was no ‘private sector’ solution. Tax credits only made 2-3 million people happy while 30 Million didn’t have insurance. (oblivious to the irony of his third minute when he said you can’t take away from 250 million people that are happy with their insurance for the 50 million that they system is ‘broken for’.

He spins like a top.


7 posted on 11/12/2014 11:33:26 AM PST by machogirl
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To: MAKOTHEDOG

Thank you. I need a stiff Diet Dr. Pepper now for my headache.


8 posted on 11/12/2014 11:33:58 AM PST by machogirl
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To: Prince of Space

Ha, mine too. It was so bad the doggy had to go potty several times during the video. I just HAD to stop it and go outside with the dog.


9 posted on 11/12/2014 11:35:21 AM PST by machogirl
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To: all the best
I have a picture in my head of who he sounds like. The nerdy guy in Wargames. Ed Deezen
10 posted on 11/12/2014 11:37:03 AM PST by machogirl
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To: Whenifhow

Thank you. Do you mean that I didn’t have to listen? AARGGGGGG ;)


11 posted on 11/12/2014 11:38:19 AM PST by machogirl
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To: Whenifhow

I am going to read them and compare to my notes, but I’m going to kill the fly that came in first.


12 posted on 11/12/2014 11:39:11 AM PST by machogirl
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To: machogirl

‘The HERO of the story is Mitt Romney’

Changing Tagline for the GOPe.


13 posted on 11/12/2014 11:40:27 AM PST by Uncle Miltie ('The HERO of the (0bamacare) story is Mitt Romney' - "Stupid" Johnathan Gruber)
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-—You don’t take away something from take away something that makes 250 million happy to make 50 million happy. 250 Million were happy with their healthcare.-—

No. Of course not. No one would, except this jerk and Obola.

-—At approx 19 minutes he recommends you DON’T READ the ACA. (you need him, the administration, democrats, and his book to “explain” to you about the law).-—

It’s not a law. It’s another unelected branch of government, like all the other government agencies.


14 posted on 11/12/2014 11:46:58 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: machogirl

Those two links posted have the same video as the one you posted. It is interesting that those articles focus on different topics.


15 posted on 11/12/2014 11:49:57 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: machogirl

https://www.google.com/search?q=jonathan+gruber&biw=1553&bih=802&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A2011%2Ccd_max%3A2013&tbm=

Looks like the media was interviewing this guy and propping him up as the ObamaCare guru quite a bit a few years ago.


16 posted on 11/12/2014 11:52:51 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Uncle Miltie

lol, In November 2011 he calls Mitt an “f***ing liar”.


17 posted on 11/12/2014 11:53:09 AM PST by machogirl
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

I wonder why he didn’t want anyone to read the ACA?

Hey Prof Gruber, I read every stinkin’ 2700+ pages.


18 posted on 11/12/2014 11:54:51 AM PST by machogirl
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks for the heads up on that. I just killed the fly. Time to read more Gruber. He’s one of those “elite” type people that after I hear what he has to say, I think, “what did he just say”?


19 posted on 11/12/2014 11:57:07 AM PST by machogirl
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To: MNDude

Thanks for that link. He was a “whiz”.


20 posted on 11/12/2014 11:57:47 AM PST by machogirl
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