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A Deal With Two Devils - Russia and Iran
usnews.com ^ | November 18, 2014 | Lawrence J. Haas

Posted on 11/18/2014 8:31:10 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe

Nothing better showcases Washington’s confusion over foreign policy than the idea that – as part of a U.S.-Iran nuclear deal – Iran would ship much or all of its enriched uranium to Russia, and Russia would then process it for Iranian civilian usage.

Were the U.S.-led “P5+1” negotiators (the five permanent U.N. Security Council members plus Germany) to reach a deal with Iran with this provision, the United States would subjugate its national security and that of its allies to two U.S. adversaries, both of which are undermining U.S. interests around the world.

In addition, Washington would further legitimize Tehran and Moscow as good-faith actors that adhere to global norms and can be valuable partners with the United States, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding.

The proposal for Iran to ship its enriched uranium to Russia, which is under consideration in the negotiations that restart this week and face a Nov. 24 deadline, is designed to assure the world that Iran cannot quickly upgrade its enriched uranium to a nuclear-grade level in a quick race to a bomb. That the United States can trust Iran and Russia to play it straight, however, seems naive at best.

All in all, the U.S. quest for a deal, as reflected in its negotiations in recent months, bespeaks a posture that makes Washington look desperate and, thus, makes a good deal from the U.S. standpoint less likely.

In the interim U.S.-Iran nuclear deal, in recent negotiations over a final one, and in other high-level U.S.-Iranian communications, President Barack Obama and other top U.S. officials have back-tracked on a host of previous U.S. positions.

For instance, Washington now accepts Tehran’s right to enrich uranium and to retain thousands of working centrifuges; ignores the ties between Iran’s enrichment program and both its ballistic missile program and any previous weaponization efforts; and links a nuclear deal to the promise of U.S.-Iranian cooperation on other issues that presumably would help both Washington and Tehran.

Washington seems to believe that, to answer the question Henry Kissinger famously posed, Iran wants to be a traditional country, not a revolutionary cause. Washington dangles the prospect of long-term U.S.-Iranian détente that would balance Tehran’s interests against those of U.S. allies in Jerusalem and Riyadh, integrate Iran more fully into the global system, and promote more Iranian prosperity.

Iran, however, offers little evidence that it thinks the same way. It acts not as a global citizen but, instead, as an outlaw nation by destabilizing its neighbors, sponsoring terrorism, repeating its threats to annihilate Israel and maintaining its “death to America” chants at public gatherings. Through its hegemonic activities, Middle East expert Lee Smith wrote recently for the Weekly Standard, Iran now “boasts control of four Arab capitals – Baghdad, Beirut, Damascus, and Sanaa.”

As for broader Iranian prosperity, the interim nuclear deal significantly addressed that issue by providing enough sanctions relief to lift Iran’s economy off its back, spurring growth, slashing inflation and strengthening Iran’s currency. Tehran’s economic incentive to relinquish its nuclear quest is now much smaller.

Nevertheless, U.S. negotiators proceed apace, hoping that Tehran will see the world through Washington’s eyes and, now, also hoping that Russia will help secure a final deal through the proposal described above.

U.S. trust for Russia makes little sense, however, as its reckless leader seems intent on flouting international norms, testing Washington and its allies, and, when finding them wanting, expanding Moscow’s reach.

In recent months, Vladimir Putin has annexed Crimea, spurred Russian-backed rebels to seize more of Ukraine, and repeatedly violated cease-fire agreements by sending troops and weaponry across its border. He intimidated Ukraine into postponing a landmark trade treaty with the European Union.

Now, with the West responding with mild sanctions and empty threats, Putin is eying further prey. He’s threatening the Baltic States of Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania and, in particularly reckless and brazen displays, he recently sent Russian strategic bombers along the U.S. and Canadian coasts, nuclear bombers on a practice cruise-missile attack off Canada’s coast, and a submarine to Sweden’s waters.

Russia’s actions in Ukraine, NATO’s top commander said recently, “represent a clear decision by Moscow to reject the fundamental principles that have shaped international security over the past 25 years.”

So, for a final nuclear deal, the United States is considering a proposal to enable the outlaw nation of Russia to work with the outlaw nation of Iran to prevent the latter from developing nuclear weaponry.

That seems more than a little risky.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bhoiran; bhorussia; iran; irannukes; iraq; israel; kurdistan; lebanon; rop; russia; syria; turkey; ukraine; waronterror; ww3
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1 posted on 11/18/2014 8:31:10 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Obama is going to drop sanctions on Russia next Spring to get the Iran deal. Count on it.

Now, Congress can impose its own sanctions on Russia. They should do so without haste to prevent such a deal by Obama. They do this by adding Russia (and its closest allies Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Kyrygstan) to the state sponsor of terror list. We also put intense pressure on China to cut relations with Russia and to behave themselves in regards to Hong Kong, Taiwan, and the Spartley islands.


2 posted on 11/18/2014 8:34:14 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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3 posted on 11/18/2014 8:37:36 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Thunder90

“We also put intense pressure on China to cut relations with Russia and to behave themselves in regards to Hong Kong, Taiwan, and the Spartley islands.”

And how do we do that, exactly???
I don’t know if you have noticed, but China is holding all of the cards when it comes to trade, and supporting the dollar.


5 posted on 11/18/2014 9:23:13 AM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf
If you're a malevolent traitor like Obama and you want to hurt the U.S.A., where do you turn?

Malevolent dictators dedicated to America's destruction, of course.

Thilly boyth.

6 posted on 11/18/2014 11:34:33 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: tcrlaf
China is holding all of the cards when it comes to trade, and supporting the dollar.

Indeed, on ChiCom TV yesterday, Russian and Chinese talking heads were lecturing the U.S. about how foolish we are to annoy them by talking about human rights and the Ukraine.

Those talking heads were working hard to impress us with how America's arrogance is pissing up a rope.

Wonder who fed them their diet of confidence?

7 posted on 11/18/2014 11:37:12 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

A Shia nuclear bomb to counter the Sunni nuclear bomb (Pakistan’s)? what’s wrong with that?


8 posted on 11/18/2014 12:41:03 PM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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First of all Iran is a Islamic Theocracy and Pakistan is not. Second of all Pakistan is the USA’s ally and Iran is our enemy. Finally, Iran’s nukes are not to be aimed at Pakistan, they are for wiping Israel off the map.

I shouldn’t have to tell you any of this.


9 posted on 11/18/2014 2:19:01 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: F15Eagle
Just setting the stage for the eventual Ezekiel 38.....

Isn't Ez 38 a little bloody? It's not going to end well for them, but there might be some real hassles before that happens.

11 posted on 11/19/2014 12:18:39 AM PST by Mark17 (Uninvited he sat down and opened up his mind, about old dogs and children, and watermelon wine)
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To: F15Eagle

12 posted on 11/19/2014 2:23:24 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: F15Eagle
>>Just setting the stage for the eventual Ezekiel 38.....<<

Interesting that even many who call themselves Christian are oblivious as to what is being put together and what will soon happen. Man will not alter God's plan.

13 posted on 11/19/2014 5:53:56 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: F15Eagle

Wow! Such a time we are witnessing.


15 posted on 11/19/2014 8:25:57 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Tailgunner Joe.
Russia’s actions in Ukraine, NATO’s top commander said recently, “represent a clear decision by Moscow to reject the fundamental principles that have shaped international security over the past 25 years.” So, for a final nuclear deal, the United States is considering a proposal to enable the outlaw nation of Russia to work with the outlaw nation of Iran to prevent the latter from developing nuclear weaponry.

16 posted on 11/19/2014 3:10:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: CynicalBear

Correct


17 posted on 11/19/2014 11:53:46 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Howard Phillips Conservative)
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To: CynicalBear

In my view we are moving closer and closer to the rapture.


18 posted on 11/20/2014 12:00:32 AM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Howard Phillips Conservative)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; nuconvert; SunkenCiv; gandalftb; GeronL; TigerLikesRooster; kristinn
This is interesting, if there will be a deal with Iran:
First, Iran would be able to increase oil exports by around one million barrels from June levels in the short term and possibly 1.5 million barrels over two or three years. The increase in Iranian exports at a time when demand is weak and there is already excess supply could drive the oil price into the $50-60-per-barrel range. This could produce a positive shock for the oil-importing countries and a negative shock for the oil exporters.

Every $10 decline in the oil price could boost real GDP growth in the oil importing countries by 0.2 percent. It would be a de facto $400-billion tax cut at a time when most industrial countries are too concerned about their fiscal deficits to propose new tax cuts. The major winners would include Japan, India and Western Europe, because they import most of their oil. The United States would also benefit, because it still imports about one-third of its oil consumption.

The second positive consequence would be to cripple the economies of leading American enemies, such as Russia and Venezuela. Oil and gas account for 68 percent of Russian exports and 45 percent of government tax revenues. The recent decline in the oil price has already provoked the finance minister to say that Russia may not be able to increase military spending next year. The devaluation of the ruble has helped to offset some of the revenue impact of falling oil prices, but Russia had been budgeting for a $100-per-barrel oil price next year. If it drops into the $50-60-per-barrel range, Russia will be hard pressed to maintain spending, while the central bank could be forced to hike interest rates sharply in order to defend the ruble. The odds would increase of Russia experiencing a major recession after only 0.2 percent GDP growth this year.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/why-iran-deal-400-billion-tax-cut-11707

19 posted on 11/20/2014 8:51:09 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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Iran might do it if they could hurt Saudi Arabia as well, and the Saudis are helping Zero with this rope-a-dope. One might think that the Iranians can’t bear to turn it down, because they need to sell more at the lower prices in order to cover the costs of their despotate and worldwide jihad, but they probably aren’t sufficiently motivated by the prospect of more cash, or watching their main ally of convenience (Russia) go down the drain. Meanwhile, BRICS is going to wind up hitting the bricks...

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20 posted on 11/20/2014 1:01:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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