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California Business Stops Photographing Weddings to Avoid Having to Shoot Same-Sex Ceremonies
Christian Post ^ | 11/20/2014 | Samuel Smith

Posted on 11/20/2014 8:56:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

A California photography company has announced that it will no longer shoot wedding photography after gay activists protested against the business claiming it "denied" service to a same-sex couple for their wedding.

Nang and Chris Mai, the operators of the Bay Area-based Urloved Photography, posted to the company's website earlier in November that they'll no longer photograph weddings after they were harassed by LGBT activists for referring a gay couple seeking their service to another photographer instead of shooting the wedding themselves.

The Mais, who specialize in weddings, events and family portraits, say they've had to do away with wedding photography because they don't want to sacrifice their personal beliefs against same-sex weddings in order to abide by California's buisness discrimination laws.

"We have come to a difficult decision that we will no longer be in the wedding photography business," the married couple posted on the company's website Nov. 4. "We are grateful for this experience as it has caused us to think about how our personal beliefs intersect with our business practices."

After T.J. Kelsall posted on Facebook about how Urloved Photography declined to photograph the wedding for him and his partner, Thai Lam, the Mais received a backlash in which they were "flooded with hate calls, emails and accusations that inaccurately depict [their] business."

"Great shots but this company denied me and my fiance, a same-sex couple, from their services," Kelsall's Facebook post states. "Stand up and say something about it."

Although the Mais didn't say it was due to their religious beliefs that they didn't want to shoot the same-sex wedding, they told the couple that "photographing a gay wedding is not the best match for us."

In response to the hateful criticism from LGBT activists, the Urloved Photograpy website statement explained that the Mais felt that referring the couple to another qualified photographer, who has no objection to same-sex weddings, would have resulted in the couple being happier with their photograpgy service.

"Unfortunately, our artistic passion for excellence and personal beliefs were misinterpreted. That was never our intent," the statement says. "It is not photographing a couple who have different personal beliefs that we have difficulty with. We genuinely felt referring this couple to a photographer who does share their personal beliefs would provide them with the best service for their special day. We wanted to connect them with someone who did share their personal beliefs so that they could give them the service quality they deserve."

While it's unclear as to whether Kelsall and Lam threatened a lawsuit, another post by Kelsall indicates that it was acknowledged that their denial of service could be pursued further. Under California law: "all persons are entitled to full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges, or services in all business establishments, including both private and public entities."

The state of New York also has a similar law to California's. Earlier this year, a Christian couple was fined $13,000 for declining to host a same-sex wedding on their farmhouse wedding venue.

"They acknowledged that if this were pursued any further it wouldn't fair [sic] well for Urloved Photography," Kelsall wrote. "They understand the law and told us they have decided that in light of their personal beliefs they will be shutting down their business."

Although the gay couple was initially upset with the Mais' decision to not shoot their wedding, Kelsall also wrote on Facebook saying they respected their decision to stop doing wedding photography and asked gay activists and their supporters to stop posting to Urloved Photography social media and Internet accounts.

"[We] consider this issue resolved and would urge you to stop posting on their FB page, Yelp, and any other social media site," the Facebook post states. "Our friends, family, and the LGBT community/allies have all been amazingly supportive and active in helping to bring this matter to light. We must respect that Nang and Chris have decided to shut down their business because of their beliefs. I wish the outcome could have been different but it is what it is."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gaymarriage; photography
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1 posted on 11/20/2014 8:56:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

It won’t be enough. The homos will find another event that they will claim they were discriminated against and do whatever they can to destroy them.


2 posted on 11/20/2014 8:58:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would have just said, “Sorry, that date is booked.”


3 posted on 11/20/2014 8:59:34 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It will require some sacrifice and perhaps some creative thinking / action but ..

Just Say No

Is not a bad tactic.

God bless and prosper Nang and Chris Mai, In Jesus' name and for His sake ... Amen.

4 posted on 11/20/2014 9:01:08 AM PST by knarf
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To: SeekAndFind

I wish the outcome could have been different.
BS it was the goal.


5 posted on 11/20/2014 9:02:12 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

The hatred and intolerance of the Democrats.


6 posted on 11/20/2014 9:02:17 AM PST by realcleanguy
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To: SeekAndFind
this company denied me and my fiance, a same-sex couple, from their services," Kelsall's Facebook post states. "Stand up and say something about it."

Sure. How about SHUT UP AND GO AWAY, PERVERT!

(p.s. I'm standing)

7 posted on 11/20/2014 9:03:49 AM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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RE: Sure. How about SHUT UP AND GO AWAY, PERVERT!

What if they have a tape of what you just said and sued you in the state of California for refusing to service them?


8 posted on 11/20/2014 9:06:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its exactly what I would do.


9 posted on 11/20/2014 9:08:22 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

They catch onto that, usually one person tries to book and they don’t immediately point out that it’s a same sex wedding, but once they find out there is availability for a certain date, it’s “Game Over.”


10 posted on 11/20/2014 9:09:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Many years ago when I was a kid we would defiantly say that it’s a free country. Now when I hear somebody say that it’s a free country I think how delusional. Free now has a whole other meaning.


11 posted on 11/20/2014 9:12:15 AM PST by all the best
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To: SeekAndFind

No no no!

Do the deal. Take the gig. Take the pics. Agree to do the job!

Now about the pics. Oops, the camera lens had some junk on it. The “groom” is not in any of the pics. Sorry, most of the pics are of the sky. Darn, my hand was shaking. Etc...


12 posted on 11/20/2014 9:14:48 AM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: isthisnickcool

One more thing. Get the money up front and have them agree that they have no say-so over the quality of the pics. And, thee is NO refund.


13 posted on 11/20/2014 9:15:39 AM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: isthisnickcool
Do the deal. Take the gig. Take the pics. Agree to do the job! Now about the pics. Oops, the camera lens had some junk on it. The “groom” is not in any of the pics. Sorry, most of the pics are of the sky. Darn, my hand was shaking. Etc...

So you're saying to expend all that effort and expense, and in the end have to give a full refund to the customer?

14 posted on 11/20/2014 9:16:43 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

I still maintain telling those queers that one-half of the proceeds from their photo job will go to the Family Research Council. Tell them that donation will be in THEIR name.

A little photo-editing play with the pics might be fun, too. Little subtle stuff they won’t immediately notice.


15 posted on 11/20/2014 9:17:53 AM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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To: isthisnickcool
Get the money up front and have them agree that they have no say-so over the quality of the pics.

Or the selection. "You'll just have to 'trust us.'"

16 posted on 11/20/2014 9:19:54 AM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Under California law: “all persons are entitled to full and equal accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges, or services in all business establishments, including both private and public entities.” “

This law needs to be repealed, it clearly runs afoul of the right to free association.


17 posted on 11/20/2014 9:24:03 AM PST by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: ScottinVA

Have the photographer show up dressed as Hitler. Full NAZI uniform, swastika, etc. Or maybe make sure the photographer is a a large dude dressed up as honey boo-boo except they have a strap on with a large phallic thingy hanging out. Put whatever is necessary in the contract to allow for this.

The bottom line is to not say no but put in to the agreement things that allows the photographer a lot of latitude. And, every so often dummy up a straight wedding where the exact same thing occurs.


18 posted on 11/20/2014 9:27:00 AM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I still don't understand how photographers, bakers and other private businesses can be forced to participate in events against their will. Can a photographer be compelled to photograph a satanic ceremony? Could a Muslim business be forced to sell a Jewish wedding cake? This is madness.

It just seems like there was so much pent-up EVIL just waiting for Obama to come along to let it loose.

19 posted on 11/20/2014 9:27:25 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: SeekAndFind

Whoops, my CMOS digital sensor must be broke!


20 posted on 11/20/2014 9:28:03 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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