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Dismissing Senate Report, Dick Cheney Defends C.I.A. Interrogations
New York Times ^ | 12/09/2014 | Peter Baker

Posted on 12/09/2014 5:07:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Former Vice President Dick Cheney offered a full-throated defense of the Central Intelligence Agency on Monday, arguing that its harsh interrogations of terrorism suspects a decade ago were “absolutely, totally justified” and dismissing a new Senate report criticizing them.

Mr. Cheney, who was a vocal champion of those techniques after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and has never accepted the widespread description of them as torture, said he had not read the report that the Intelligence Committee is expected to release on Tuesday. But from news reports about it, he said he had heard nothing to change his mind about the wisdom and effectiveness of the program.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney defended the C.I.A. on Monday, saying that its harsh interrogations a decade ago were “absolutely, totally justified.”White House and Republicans Clash Over C.I.A. Torture ReportDEC. 8, 2014 Senate Panel Faces New Obstacle to Release of Torture ReportDEC. 5, 2014 Former President George W. Bush in August.Bush and C.I.A. Ex-Officials Rebut Torture ReportDEC. 7, 2014 “What I keep hearing out there is they portray this as a rogue operation and the agency was way out of bounds and then they lied about it,” he said in a telephone interview. “I think that’s all a bunch of hooey. The program was authorized. The agency did not want to proceed without authorization, and it was also reviewed legally by the Justice Department before they undertook the program.”

Mr. Cheney said he never thought the C.I.A. was withholding information from him or the White House about the nature of the program, nor did he think the agency exaggerated the value of the intelligence gained from waterboarding and other techniques.

The reported conclusion by the Senate Intelligence Committee that the C.I.A. misled the White House, he added, “is just a crock.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; california; cia; diannefeinstein; dickcheney; gwot; interrogation; torture; waterboarding
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1 posted on 12/09/2014 5:07:27 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

How many lives were saved because we we “not very nice” to the enemy?

I don’t give a tinker’s damn about the enemy’s feelings.

And right now, the enemy is the Left.


2 posted on 12/09/2014 5:38:19 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Those terrorists that can't wait to behead us think Barry's plan of quietly releasing their co-religionists of peace (TM) from Gitmo is a great idea!

Releasing this CIA report will make America's past allies that much more hesitant, knowing Barry and his crowd are so happy to share with the world what they and terrorists agree are mistaken policies of past administrations.

As Hillary has made clear, she thinks we need to understand and empathize more with our enemies.

Anything to weaken America! Right, Barry?

HF

3 posted on 12/09/2014 8:56:15 AM PST by holden
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To: SeekAndFind; All
I'll tell what is the most bizarre thing to come out of this report:

That KSM was "Waterboarded 183 times" and did not capitulate or yield any useful intelligence.

What a total crock...nay, damnable LIE.

That man told every story he ever knew. You can take that to the bank.

4 posted on 12/09/2014 9:42:08 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
I heard from a former CIA officer that the three top dogs they had including KSM gave up the entire second tier of Al Qaida with its use.

This in turn stopped a huge bomb plot at a number of embassies abroad at the time. Including the embassies of some allies.

5 posted on 12/09/2014 9:46:53 AM PST by headstamp 2
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Having been on the Waterboard, old-school Khmer Rouge style in SERE, I can say with certainty KSM and the other 2 gave up everything they knew of any value, and DID NOT LIE.

Knowing that a lie meant another trip to the 'board would make even BHO an honest man.

Additionally, Nobody alive today has been Waterboarded 183 times. That's simply ridiculous. Twice will yield everything a man knows.

Any man.

6 posted on 12/09/2014 9:53:00 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Anybody that trusts a Democrat with national security is a lunatic.

They’re currently living up to their reputations.

There isn’t a damned ally that would trust us with anything now. They’d be out of their minds to.


7 posted on 12/09/2014 10:05:06 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: SeekAndFind
CIA Saved Lives
8 posted on 12/09/2014 1:02:35 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cheney is fantastic.


9 posted on 12/09/2014 3:06:06 PM PST by Katarina
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To: SeekAndFind

The gist of this was basically, we bluffed our enemies into thinking they would die. No tongues cut out, no nails removed, let alone digits and family jewels.

In other words, we didn’t physically harm anyone irreparably.

And yet we are to be compared with savages that behead children?

Maybe some of these ass clown senators need to spend some time in Islamist conflict zones around the world, rather than cocktail parties. They may develop another perspective .


10 posted on 12/10/2014 11:14:04 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: SeekAndFind; NFHale; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA

Terrorists deserve what they get, I’d have done far worse to them, and then sent them to hell.


11 posted on 12/10/2014 11:37:55 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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I like Jamal’s response.


12 posted on 12/11/2014 6:36:43 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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To: Impy; NFHale; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; KC_Lion

The only way to truly deal with them is to irradicate them, period.

They only understand death...so communicate to them in a way they understand, so there is no misunderstanding.

Like I’ve said many, many times, this country had a problem with a religious fanatic society (Japan) between 1941-1945. They were dealt with as harshly as possible and have been quiet since.

Of course, being blown off the planet tends to do that to even the hardest of hardasses.


13 posted on 12/11/2014 6:27:26 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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14 posted on 12/11/2014 8:16:18 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; KC_Lion

“...this country had a problem with a religious fanatic society (Japan) between 1941-1945. They were dealt with as harshly as possible and have been quiet since....”

That was a VASTLY different America, brother.

And a better one.


15 posted on 12/12/2014 12:04:02 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; GOPsterinMA; Impy; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; KC_Lion

I don’t mind that we tortured a bunch of them.

Now, if we got valuable information out of them too, so much the better!


16 posted on 12/12/2014 12:07:24 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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“...I don’t mind that we ...”

Posted this the other day, here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3235944/posts?page=288#288

But I’ll repost it. To make a point; it depends on what you consider “torture”.

Picture a person. A hostage. For no reason other than he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Snatched off the street.

He’s kneeling; his hands are cuffed or zip-tied behind him.

There’s a masked guy, in black, standing next to and slightly behind him. He’s got a large knife. He’s ranting in Arabic, pissed off because the world believes he’s nothing more than a savage - after ACTING like a savage - and his book tells him to kill all who don’t believe what he believes.

There’s a cameraman in front of the kneeling guy. He believes the same thing as Knife Boy.

They’ve been filming the hostage over and over; for days maybe. The kneeling man KNOWS that he’s going to die, horribly, just not when. Every time they do this, he thinks today is the day. When it doesn’t happen, he begins to think - because it’s HUMAN nature for him to believe - that MAYBE, they’ll let him go - despite all past stories to the contrary.

Then, one day, Knife Boy in black carries out his threats and saws the man’s head off, for his family and the world to see. The hostage screams, gurgles through his torn throat, and is dead.

Now it’s on YouTube. His family can see his horrific death, iover and over. Idiots with no sense of decency will post and re-post it hundreds of times out of morbidity, making the loved ones of this poor man relive it over and over.

That’s terror.

That’s horror.

And THAT is torture.

Waterboarding does not equate to this in ANY way.

I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for these people. If we catch them, do whatever needs to be done to prevent an American from being murdered.

If these animals want Geneva Convention protection, then they should stop acting like animals.

Which isn’t likely to happen.


17 posted on 12/12/2014 12:11:34 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

” I have absolutely ZERO sympathy for these people. If we catch them, do whatever needs to be done to prevent an American from being murdered.”

B T T T


18 posted on 12/12/2014 12:16:54 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (The only people in the world who fear Obama are American citizens.)
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RE :”I don’t mind that we tortured a bunch of them.
Now, if we got valuable information out of them too, so much the better!”

That just gets them mad at us.

Now that Obama has pointed out our *war crimes* and showed how evil the US is the muzzies will forgive us.

All the world at peace
He earned that peace prize.

ISIS lays down their weapons.

19 posted on 12/12/2014 2:19:37 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: NFHale; All

Yes, yes.


20 posted on 12/12/2014 4:06:49 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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