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Every movie rewrites history. What American Sniper did is much, much worse.
Vox ^ | 1/22 | Amanda Taub

Posted on 01/22/2015 9:05:54 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue

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To: TangledUpInBlue
So vox is trying to establish a moral equivalency between the US and Al queda.

So how about ISIS? Are they our moral equivalent as well?

Perhaps its a little too gray over their at vox. I recommend they turn on the lights.

61 posted on 01/22/2015 10:13:30 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Farmer Dean

So much of the critizsm against Kyle involvles him not even knowing who or what he is shooting.

I want to make the point that a SEAL, an expert sniper, an elite skill based on single shot kills of a specific individual carefully chosen, looking at someone 500 or a 1000 yards away, through a $2000.00 scope, knows exactly what he is shooting and can tell the difference between the target being armed or carrying a Koran.


62 posted on 01/22/2015 10:16:28 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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To: Iron Munro

Based on that photo I’m guessing the Shetland ponies cover her.


63 posted on 01/22/2015 10:19:25 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Tudorfly

And walking on the beach, backrubs and sunsets.


64 posted on 01/22/2015 10:25:35 AM PST by punknpuss
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To: catnipman

I sent her an email saying her opinion piece was poop from an obvious sheep.


65 posted on 01/22/2015 10:33:22 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: saleman; pepsi_junkie
The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world. America's vital interests and our deepest beliefs are now one. (George W. Bush, Inaugural speech to second term, January 20, 2005).

[W]e know that it is not enough to have a short-term solution to terrorism, that is, defeating the terrorists who on a daily basis plot and plan to destroy innocent life, but also to deal [...] with the circumstances that created those terrorists. And we believe that the ideology of hatred which they espouse can only be met by advancing liberty and democracy. (Condoleezza Rice, FY 2007 Budget Request for the Department of State and Foreign Operations, March 28, 2006).

http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0034-73292013000200008&script=sci_arttext

These statements are fine in the context of helping free countries remain free. But these and many other speeches and declarations made during this time attempted to explain and justify our presence and purpose in Iraq - preemptive invasion to convert a government into a democracy - the flawed and hopefully scrapped part of "The Bush Doctrine." Again, that is not the purpose for America.

Our purpose is more like what Reagan, Bush Sr.'s "Desert Storm", and "W"'s invasion of Afghanistan were trying to do: defend ourselves and other countries from attack. We do such because we believe in freedom. But each nation has the right to freely govern itself as it wishes. And each nation, including America, does not have the right to force itself and its ideals on others. That is the antithesis of freedom and America does not stand for that.

66 posted on 01/22/2015 10:45:39 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Iron Munro

Interesting photo...

So, she is “Still not asking for it?” What the heck does that mean? That she is she begging “for it” then?

The hand in the air and the closed eyes reminds me of scenes at evangelical tent revivals, except that people at those wear clothes, and are not naively evil.


67 posted on 01/22/2015 10:47:33 AM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: ansel12

Dunno which scope he used but, I do have 5 Luepold MK IV Scopes. Many of our boys use them.

Bought em in 2008 @ $1,650 per.

Only mounted 4 but, I love them.

Great from dusk to dawn.

Would like my next build to have a Schmidt & Bender:

Price? $3,500

Oooh Awe? Priceless


68 posted on 01/22/2015 10:49:52 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: PapaNew

The move on Iraq was a response to international pressure to relieve sanctions on Saddam. Look up Oil for Food. Waited for UN approval. France screwed us when we finally attacked.

What other hope is there than democracy to organize states? Are we going to designate dictators?


69 posted on 01/22/2015 10:56:22 AM PST by JmyBryan
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To: JmyBryan

Democracy in the Arab world, means they vote for hardcore Islamists. Is that what you really want?


70 posted on 01/22/2015 11:00:16 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: 17th Miss Regt

As history teaches, tell a big lie often enough, it becomes accepted as the only truth permitted to be known.

WMDs in Iraq, Globull warming - the tactic is effective because Satan sticks to what works.


71 posted on 01/22/2015 11:00:31 AM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: reasonisfaith

This is exactly how they approach the fact-checking sites they run.

Republican issue fact checkings are always black and white.

Dem issue fact checkings are always full of obfuscation, conflation and qualifiers.

If it;s a really bad / negative issue for the Dems, they’ll simply “launder” the issue in the tabloids - to generate public skepticism.


72 posted on 01/22/2015 11:05:51 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: reasonisfaith

Yup...I had a similar reaction to a line in a Star Wars movie...

“Only Sith deal in absolutes,” said the Jedi.

Well dang, Jedi! That’s an “absolute” right there!


73 posted on 01/22/2015 11:08:34 AM PST by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down....and to the left.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
I must be a Freeper. Before I even read comments, I looked her up...Georgetown Law School Liberal, went overseas for undergraduate, studied the poor Africans for a masters, taught at liberal Fordham U., protests for wimmen's rights, lawyer for human rights.....Obama supporter...

Before she even wrote her first sentence we knew she was one of Obama's flying monkeys and wouldn't support our men in uniform in any way shape or fashion.

74 posted on 01/22/2015 11:10:53 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: TangledUpInBlue

She claims Saddam’s “innocence” regarding 9/11, yet doesn’t explain all the murals he erected in Iraq celebrating that atrocity or how
the brilliantly weaponized anthrax arrived here at the same time.


75 posted on 01/22/2015 11:14:09 AM PST by libstripper (")
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To: JmyBryan

America is not in the business of forcing other sovereign countries into our mold. That is like kidnapping an adult against their will and forcing them into a place WE think would be better for them. THAT is tyranny.


76 posted on 01/22/2015 11:15:08 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: mrsmel

“Another “SJW”. Aren’t they all, these days.

And in this case a JSJW! Or in other words, a capo.


77 posted on 01/22/2015 11:16:55 AM PST by vette6387
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To: TangledUpInBlue

You are right...”Muslims are evil and should be killed.”

If there’s any doubt, just watch this video from a WW II British Military Cemetery in Libya.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/RtgbvotqVFE?rel=0


78 posted on 01/22/2015 11:25:49 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
It's a movie about a black-and-white distinction between good and evil, but it is set almost entirely in the Iraq War, which can only be honestly portrayed in shades of gray.

Maybe to a dumb broad like you, 'Manda. There were strategic problems and major policy inconsistencies, but at the tactical level where guys like myself, my platoon, and Chris Kyle and his teammates were, it was very much black and white.

79 posted on 01/22/2015 11:30:08 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Hater - of American values


80 posted on 01/22/2015 11:38:10 AM PST by capydick ("If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on Earth.")
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