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What Flying Was Like Before the Smoke Cleared
NYTimes ^ | Feb 23 '15 | JOE SHARKEY

Posted on 02/23/2015 6:25:07 PM PST by Drango

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To: Drango

I recently saw “The High and the Mighty.” (That was the movie that was spoofed by “Airplane”). Back in the old days when it took 8 hours to fly from Honolulu to San Francisco at 8 thousand feet, the passengers could smoke and bring a loaded handgun on board. Those were the days.


21 posted on 02/23/2015 6:51:11 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: ClearCase_guy
We were a better country when most people smoked. That's not a comment about tobacco. That's a comment about freedom.

There is no freedom in addiction.

22 posted on 02/23/2015 6:52:25 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: NorthMountain
In the same way, one of our big problems is rich people who have too much money. Everyone knows rich people should be giving away most of their money to poor people and to recent immigrants! But, as you say, people who do not give away their money, will have their money TAKEN away. And they won't like it.

Collectively, rich people are boors, aggressively offensive and greedy, caring only about themselves. It's only just that some forcible redistribution of wealth take place, and the rich people have no one to blame but themselves.

Oh ... by the way ...

[/s]

23 posted on 02/23/2015 6:53:12 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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To: ltc8k6

We used to go to the airport for FUN.
Good resturants, Travelers from everywhere, Stews,
we could go up on the roof and watch operations and
listen to the tower.

I’ll never fly again.


24 posted on 02/23/2015 6:54:43 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That better be ‘sarcasm’, because otherwise it’s complete nonsense and you know it. In fact, it’s not even good sarcasm. It’s just stupid.


25 posted on 02/23/2015 6:55:14 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Inyo-Mono

I remember, late ‘70s...business flight to Rochester. The plane was full. I had a non-smoking ticket and they put me in the “smoking” section.

I objected.

Smoking was banned on the whole flight.


26 posted on 02/23/2015 6:56:12 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: tet68

Yes, I loved to go to the airport, just to go to the airport.

People got dressed up to take a flight, too.


27 posted on 02/23/2015 6:56:56 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: NorthMountain

My comment? The one with the [/s] in it? You’re asking me if it’s sarcasm?


28 posted on 02/23/2015 6:57:20 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The dog days are over /The dog days are done/Can you hear the horses? /'Cause here they come)
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To: NorthMountain
Causation vs correlation.

I don't for one moment accept that smokers were and are the cause of the current nanny state.

No, that lays directly at the feet of leftists and progressives who know what is best for YOU.

29 posted on 02/23/2015 6:57:24 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Drango

I remember when there was a “Smoker mafia” here that would descend on any thread critical of smoking. They were vicious.


30 posted on 02/23/2015 6:58:11 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Drango

I remember when air travel was civilized. Passengers were treated as valued customers. There was food, friendly service, and yes, you could sit back and light up a smoke.

God, I miss those days.

L


31 posted on 02/23/2015 7:05:56 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: going hot

You can refuse to accept it if you like, but you’re old enough to know better. You lived through it, same as me.

The aggressively arrogant conduct that was typical of 1970s cigarette smokers gave the nanny-staters an opening, and they took it. Big time.

Control yourself, or be controlled. The latter is always worse.


32 posted on 02/23/2015 7:05:57 PM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: I cannot think of a name

“I grew up with many family members that smoked, and there was no smell to anything that had been in the room. Of course this was in the 1950’s and early 60’s.”

There is a direct correlation between nose size and lying.


33 posted on 02/23/2015 7:11:01 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
'Hello, do you have Prince Albert in a can?'

'Yes we do.'

'Well let him out!' [click!]

_____________________________________________________________________

Those were the days.

34 posted on 02/23/2015 7:12:54 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Drango

I seem to recall someone once saying that on Aeroflot, the left side of the plane was smoking, and the right side was non-smoking.


35 posted on 02/23/2015 7:15:00 PM PST by Edward Teach
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To: NorthMountain
Arrogant conduct was not limited to cig smokers anywhere I was, which was quite a lot of places. Arrogancy is not something unique to cig smokers.

Using cig smokers to explain the nanny state is ridiculous. Your pushing it is even more so. In places I loitered, smokers were maybe 90 per cent of the population. other places, perhaps 10%. There was no correlation.

I say again, the smokers were not the opening or an opening. Nanny staters never needed an opening, just weakness on the part of the electorate, and perhaps, foolishness and gullibility in those who were coaxed into voting for them.

36 posted on 02/23/2015 7:15:10 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: vette6387

Compressed air is free on a jetliner. It’s called “bleed” air and comes directly from the engine turbine BEFORE the fuel is mixed in the jet. Does not cost fuel. I agree with the filtration system problems though!!


37 posted on 02/23/2015 7:16:26 PM PST by timlilje
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To: doorgunner69

They probably, sadly all died from lung cancer while proclaiming that you could pry their cigarettes from their cold, dead fingers. :(


38 posted on 02/23/2015 7:17:27 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yes and you are still here?? Guess that second=hand smoke thing didn’t do you in!!


39 posted on 02/23/2015 7:17:48 PM PST by timlilje
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To: Drango
The bad ole days...(the old 707s were like flying smoke houses)


40 posted on 02/23/2015 7:18:18 PM PST by Bobalu (If we live to see 2017 we will be kissing the ground)
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