Posted on 02/26/2015 4:38:03 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
Kept secret, and the keepers of the secret refused to appear before Congress.
“The trees are all kept equal. By hatchet, axe, and saw.”
struck me as now there is a need to appeal to heaven.
for instance the the original pine tree revolt. bigger than the tea party. the pine tree flag was the first navy flag ordered by washington. it was a slap in the face to every ship in the british navy as they had marked all the trees for masts. just linking this as someone would like the history
this from history link john locke on the appeal to heaven as the last resort.
That npt tax but taking sealed all pine trees for the king by mark. here is Locke’s description of a people so vexed that they appeal to heaven and then take up arms.
The old question will be asked in this matter of prerogative, But who shall be judge when this power is made a right use of? I answer: between an executive power in being, with such a prerogative, and a legislative that depends upon his will for their convening, there can be no judge on earth; as there can be none between the legislative and the people, should either the executive, or the legislative, when they have got the power in their hands, design, or go about to enslave or destroy them. The people have no other remedy in this, as in all other cases where they have no judge on earth, but to appeal to heaven: for the rulers, in such attempts, exercising a power the people never put into their hands, (who can never be supposed to consent that any body should rule over them for their harm) do that which they have not a right to do. And where the body of the people, or any single man, is deprived of their right, or is under the exercise of a power without right, and have no appeal on earth, then they have a liberty to appeal to heaven, whenever they judge the cause of sufficient moment. And therefore, though the people cannot be judge, so as to have, by the constitution of that society, any superior power, to determine and give effective sentence in the case; yet they have, by a law antecedent and paramount to all positive laws of men, reserved that ultimate determination to themselves which belongs to all mankind, where there lies no appeal on earth, viz. to judge, whether they have just cause to make their appeal to heaven. And this judgment they cannot part with, it being out of a man’s power so to submit himself to another, as to give him a liberty to destroy him; God and nature never allowing a man so to abandon himself, as to neglect his own preservation: and since he cannot take away his own life, neither can he give another power to take it. Nor let any one think, this lays a perpetual foundation for disorder; for this operates not, till the inconveniency is so great, that the majority feel it, and are weary of it, and find a necessity to have it amended. But this the executive power, or wise princes, never need come in the danger of: and it is the thing, of all others, they have most need to avoid, as of all others the most perilous.
– John Locke, Second Treatise of Civil Government – Sec. 168
WTF ever.
This is the purview of the Congress and if they will not act then you and I are screwed, period.
The FCC hasn’t the authority to do this, not even statutory actions without oversight BY CONGRESS.
This is “The Stamp Act” all over again and brings up my pitiful public Skrewel Edumuhcation:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.....
I hope Fox News and other conservative broadcasters have plans to relocate to Canada or to some ship in International waters as we may soon only be able to get uncensored news from beyond the Obama curtain.
Politico reporting last minute revisions were made at the request of some companies, including Google, affecting its length. Now 317 pages. Probably still changing it since it hasn’t been made public yet...
Back to Compuserve and FIDOnet I suppose....
I don’t understand why people don’t want the net neutered. There’s nothing eunuch about it, is there?
Democrats/socialists/Marxist/Fascists are experts at packing evil in nicely-labeled packages.
There is nothing “neutral” about “Net Neutrality.” Again, conservatives are failing in the name-game. They need to rename it in the media aggressively so it sticks.
The proper name for it is: “Net CONTROL!”
The government fascists want to CONTROL something that is prospering and working fine. There is no need to add another layer of bureaucracy.
Another more correct name for it is: “Net BIAS!”
From now on, government will use FORCE to implement their BIAS as to how internet access works. The Government is FAR FROM NEUTRAL.
THERE IS NOTHING NEUTRAL ABOUT THIS SCAM, FOLKS!!
Maybe not explicitly, but implicitly it does, insofar as it gives them ABSOLUTE CONTROL over the whole thing ... sorry my caps key stuck.
You know, I see myself on the "liberal wing" of FR, but here I am, and I'm just seeing doom in this thing. Look at the remarks of the dissenting commissioners! Are they nuts?
[[There is a good chance of a court challenge. I’ve seen this compared to the EPA claiming for itself powers to reclassify certain things as pollutants so they can impose regulations without additional legislation giving them the authority, which the Courts struck down. In this case they don’t have the power to regulate the internet so they voted to reclassify it as something else so they can apply laws that were meant to regulate something else to it.]]
Good golly I hope you’re right- and I hope that IF the courts strike it down that the GOP yells loud and clear until people understand what a bunch of thugs the left are for even having tried this crap I nthe first place-
But I have my doubts- dear leader got to john Roberts resulting in Roberts asininely claiming the HC law is constitutional despite his equally asinine brief about why he voted the way he did- so it’s no sure bet that the courts will overturn the FCC’s power grab
[[What I want to know is what is ‘wrong’ with the Internet that requires government intervention to ‘fix’ it ???]]
Silly rabbit- what’s wrong with the internet is the fact that conservatives and Christians have a voice and can- or could that is, voice it freely
[[No, it doesn’t. It gives the FCC the power to decide whether agreements between broadband providers and content providers are “just and reasonable”—which is bad enough, mind you—but it does not give the FCC the power to determine whether content itself is “just and reasonable.”]]
Perhaps not yet, but this is just the foot in the door- once the door is opened, which it appears it has been, they will stop at nothing to achieve what they want- knowing they will NOT be seriously opposed-
My response is: See you in court FCC!
So, WHO`S LEADING THE CHARGE TO OVERTURN THIS AND HOW DO WE HELP?
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