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Farmers find unique ways to defraud federal insurance plans
CNS News ^ | 03/07/2015 | DAVE KOLPACK

Posted on 03/07/2015 9:13:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Edited on 03/07/2015 10:41:56 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

FARGO, N.D. (AP)

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1 posted on 03/07/2015 9:13:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This kind of “aid” shouldn’t exist at all.


2 posted on 03/07/2015 9:14:17 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Aren’t some of the biggest abusers of farm programs rich liberals that never get their fingernails dirty?


3 posted on 03/07/2015 9:18:40 AM PST by yawningotter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Pretty sure insurance fraud existed right before the first insurance policy was sold. It is an age old problem, and the only solution is to prosecute people who commit the fraud to prevent others from grabbing their free money too.

The biggest victim of fraud are those who legitimately suffer loss and have to jump through multiple hoops to collect on their policies due to those who commit fraud. As for the public’s losses, probably doesn't even come close to the wine tab at the White House each year (which was declared a state secret and no longer possible to use a FIOA request to retrieve.. Can't let the little people know how much is being spent on wine, can we?)

4 posted on 03/07/2015 9:25:23 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: yawningotter

Pigford.


5 posted on 03/07/2015 9:26:05 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If obama speaks and there is no one there to hear it, is it still a lie?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you ever decide you hate your life and want to punish yourself, drive down 412 in the Oklahoma Panhandle; the most boring stretch of road in the world. Notice the houses along that road. Look at the trucks parked at those houses. Those farmers hit pay-dirt with government subsidies. If I’m wrong, someone straighten me out.


6 posted on 03/07/2015 9:37:02 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Farmers find unique ways to defraud federal insurance plans

Because of corrupted government and corrupted citizens this and similar articles are easy to believe without question.

However, such articles lack information regarding how their fraud was discovered. Does the government monitor the legitimacy of subsidy programs?

Experiences provide evidence that a government subsidy will create a new demand. Armed with this knowledge does the government set up monitoring at the advent of the subsidy or do they wait for evidence that they should have set up monitoring.

Defrauding the tax payers exist in all government welfare programs.

7 posted on 03/07/2015 9:41:28 AM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: MosesKnows

hehe

In farm country, all your neighbors (or whoever farms nearby land) know exactly what goes on with your crops and livestock. Insurance adjusters in such areas have usually been farmers themselves.


8 posted on 03/07/2015 9:48:42 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: yawningotter

“Aren’t some of the biggest abusers of farm programs rich liberals that never get their fingernails dirty?”

Yeah, I know a rich liberal in Santa Barbara, CA who owns a large farm in Indiana. Great tax offsets, and free money for NOT growing crops.


9 posted on 03/07/2015 9:49:30 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Somehow the article reminded me of the passage from Catch-22:
His [Major Major's father's] specialty was alfalfa, and he made a good thing out of not growing any. The government paid him well for not growing any. The government paid him well for every bushel of alfalfa he did not grow. The more alfalfa he did not grow, the more money the government gave him, and he spent every penny he didn't earn on new land to increase the amount of alfalfa he did not produce. Major Major's father worked without rest at not growing alfalfa. On long winter evenings he remained indoors and did not mend harness, and he sprang out of bed at the crack of noon every day just to make certain that the chores would not be done. He invested in land wisely and soon was not growing more alfalfa than any other man in the country.

10 posted on 03/07/2015 9:54:24 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have seen list of big farm subsidy recipients and remember that many Hollywood celebrities and other known very wealthy people are collecting government subsidies on their “farms”.


11 posted on 03/07/2015 10:02:03 AM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes, when the government does it, it Is legal


12 posted on 03/07/2015 10:03:10 AM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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To: demshateGod

In recent years alot of farmers in that region hit pay dirt with mineral rights.


13 posted on 03/07/2015 10:07:13 AM PST by lacrew
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"....Fraud is one of the biggest issues in the federal farm program federal giveaway programs and costs taxpayers millions BILLIONS of dollars per year...".

There, I fixed it.

14 posted on 03/07/2015 10:07:18 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: lacrew

Good for them, but they do get a lot of subsidies. Of course, we know subsidies are really just padded shackles.


15 posted on 03/07/2015 10:13:07 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh great, now the farmers are crooks too! But then I guess they have been for some time.


16 posted on 03/07/2015 10:13:11 AM PST by vette6387
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Will someone please post the Amazon link to ...

Getting Government Farm Subsidies for Dummies book??

I've been unaware I could do this legally.

Thanks in advance

17 posted on 03/07/2015 10:26:35 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Has anyone documented the many ways the insurance companies, doctors and especially fake patients will defraud Obamacare and especially expanded Medicaid? Some of the “fraud” will be legal. Some will be illegal. Most illegality will depend on “flexible” interpretation of the CMS rules and regulations and on who is doing the interpretation.


18 posted on 03/07/2015 10:38:50 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: Lurker

Most of this grew out of the Federal Governments efforts to control prices during the Great Depression. The wanted lower prices or higher prices depending on which perceived problem that they wished to fix on any given day.

As laid out in a famous Supreme Court decision in 1942, the Federal Government was given vast powers to regulate economic activity ever since.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

The barn door was opened and it hasn’t been closed since. Politicians have jumped in with glee in order to advance their political ambitions. Republicans tend to prefer putting money into the pockets of farmers and Democrats like to go for subsidized or free food products into the hands of low income city dwellers. The schemes are varied and complex, but there is no shortage of pigs at the trough. These guys are pikers, but the government needs to make an example of the occasional small fry in order to perpetuate the myth that these programs are benificial and promote the general welfare.

Farmers can’t plant whatever they want, they have to conform to government regulators and in return they get a handout for letting the government control their livlihood. The major benefit is to the career politician.


19 posted on 03/07/2015 10:45:46 AM PST by centurion316
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Any black man that ever picked up a ho...


20 posted on 03/07/2015 11:26:55 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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