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Cruz could win ugly (Saturbray)
www.braylog.com ^ | 3/28/15 | bray

Posted on 03/28/2015 6:42:06 AM PDT by bray

Matthew 3:3 For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

What if Ted Cruz could win the General election and everything the experts know about politics is wrong? What if you don’t have to choose a candidate that mirrors the Dem selection and Americans are not as liberal as the media claims it is? The reason these questions are never asked or answered is that conservative voters have been shamed into a corner so they will never give their true answer to a pollster or members of the media. They don’t want to be attacked so they stay silent.

Before the last election here in Oregon we had a golden opportunity to win a Senate seat from whacky Wyden and some of us conservatives wanted a pro-life rock solid choice to take it to the Dems. Unfortunately just like the national elections all of the smart people in the Party told us we needed to nominate a moderate who was the darling of the media. She was the Jeb/George Bush of candidates who was both attractive and pro-choice, homosexual marriage, immigration and a woman brain surgeon, a shoe in to trick liberal Oregon.

We had all of the pundits falling all over themselves with articles in the NY Times, Washington Post and even a visit from Georgie Will letting us know how cutting edge she was. Here we had a woman who had done prenatal brain surgery who refused to say she was pro-life. What a perfect platform to point out the tragedy of losing a life, not to mention the damage it does to the woman who realizes days later she killed her own baby and all the issues that go with this tragedy. Nope, it could not be mentioned because she was going to get all those women’s votes.

Monica could have used her unique position to validate all of the pro-life people even if she did not have the courage to make that stand herself, but she never did. Rather, the managers from the East Coast told her to endorse homosexual marriage and walk a fine line on the abortion issue. She ended up losing by over thirty points as her campaign melted into a confused soup thanks to the Party brain trust. When you have no principles or moral values how can you ask anyone to follow you.

This is what the pundits are telling the Repubs to do once more. Try not to rock the vote and appeal to those switchover Dems since that is where they say the elections are won. In reality after studying the data, this is where the elections are lost as the switchover Dem is a myth, he doesn’t exist. The myth is promoted by the managers and pundits who get paid the same no matter what the outcome so they can keep face by losing gracefully while snacking on Brie and Chablis at their opponent’s galas.

Here is the truth of elections nothing matters with the message to the middle. The commercials do not change their minds and neither does the media. Both have been programmed out of their lives so those dollars the managers love spending are wasted especially down the stretch. Phone calls are basically a waste of time to change minds. Basically all of the noise that is made during a campaign is just that and not a single Dem voter actually voted for the candidate. Unfortunately thousands of Repubs did not vote at all by being insulted by their own Party.

Here is why Cruz is the best choice if he is legal to run. I suspect he is since he has argued in front of the Supreme Court numerous times. Compared to the rest of the candidates in the likely field he is farthest on the Right. His stands against Obamacare and the budget were epic and his oratory skills are off the charts. It will be a surprise if he does not blow the other candidates away unless you are a Democrat or a moderator, which is redundant. The Punditocracy will be uncomfortable with him since they have to explain much of what he believes.

His being farthest to the Right helps him tremendously in two ways. One is this is where the strongest and most refined conservative dialogue is articulated. This is where the leaders are developed who can explain what it is and where he wants to take them. The more you move to the middle by definition you move into more and more followers. The middle half of the spectrum are people who do not make decisions and simply follow whichever leader is willing to lead. They will follow Cruz before they will follow a weak kneed liberal. If we pick a weak kneed conservative who acts like a Dem they will vote for the real Dem like they did against Romney/McCain.

The bigger reason for him to occupy this end of the spectrum is this is where the activists live who do all the work. If you activate them they will not only vote for you they will bring anywhere from two to twenty votes with them. Repubs have a huge disadvantage on people willing to put their lives on the line even if they have the time which they don’t.

Not only will they not do the campaign work for you, if you insult them and their conservative lifestyle they will not even vote. They are insulted daily by the major media and pundiots so when a candidate agrees with the insults they say fine and drop the ballot in the garbage. This is something Ted Cruz will not do and will bring those conservatives out in force.

When it comes to elections the only thing that matters is making sure your people come out to vote and keeping as many of their ballots out of the garbage as possible. The DC groupthink is going to say this is nonsense and the only way to get those votes out is getting someone who will not offend the soccer moms and stay one onionskin to the right of the Dem. The dirty little secret is moderate women are the ultimate follower looking for someone to follow and give their children the best chance to succeed. The managers get paid whether this is right or wrong as do the pundits so following the same well worn path allows them to keep their jobs and enjoy the liberal social life. The other path is much more difficult and dirty which is how you win ugly rather than lose gracefully. Cruz could get an ugly win, just like Reagan did.

Pray America is waking


TOPICS: FReeper Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: candidate; cruz; cruz2016; election
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1 posted on 03/28/2015 6:42:06 AM PDT by bray
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To: <1/1,000,000th%; abclily; AbeKrieger; AFPhys; airborne; Alan H; Allegra; Always Right; ...

enough braying


2 posted on 03/28/2015 6:43:44 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: bray
Reagan did not win ugly. His wins were a thing of beauty.


3 posted on 03/28/2015 6:49:36 AM PDT by xp38
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To: bray

I think I’m becoming one of Teddy’s Cruzzers. Win ugly or easy but win.


4 posted on 03/28/2015 6:51:01 AM PDT by magua
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To: xp38

Those Reagan electoral maps alway make me sad and nostalgic.

They were the product of a WWII generation that is no longer with us. And gone is that generation’s work ethic, moral values and common sense.

The GOP will never see a map like that again. Best we can hope for is to regain CO, OH, FL and NC.


5 posted on 03/28/2015 6:54:41 AM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: xp38

I liked it lot better when we were BLUE and the Commie-Dems were RED.


6 posted on 03/28/2015 6:56:18 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (>http://rss.cnn.com/rss/cnn_topstories.rss)
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To: SteveAustin

They could win states like Oregon if they would make an effort and have a candidate the independent minded people could respect. Cruz is that guy.


7 posted on 03/28/2015 6:56:21 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: InterceptPoint

The convention was incumbent red challenger blue. The 2000 election changed it by somehow permanently making dims blue and pubs red. Btw I agree with you.


8 posted on 03/28/2015 7:07:54 AM PDT by xp38
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9 posted on 03/28/2015 7:10:31 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: bray

This guy has articulated the situation beautifully. Everything he said is true.


10 posted on 03/28/2015 7:15:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: bray

Shamed? You been shamed? I’ve not been shamed...

Am I “afraid” of some stupid pollster? Nawww...

Hardly...They just don’t ask. If you are going to skew your poll you will create the answers you want.

I think Ted would be a very good President. And it wouldn’t be ugly...


11 posted on 03/28/2015 7:18:25 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: xp38

What the author meant by winning ugly was not being afraid to “offend” some people by standing for principles.

However, it occurs to me that you might be making a rhetorical point instead of arguing against the authors premise. Inflection is difficult to judge on the Internet.


12 posted on 03/28/2015 7:21:34 AM PDT by rmichaelj
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To: bray

That’s a good point about the middle of the road vote.

Why run a weak liberal Republican when those who are middle of the road will vote for the Democrat every time.


13 posted on 03/28/2015 7:33:04 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The Keystone Pipe like Project : build it already Congress)
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To: xp38

He did win ugly, it’s just that there is no such thing as an ugly win or a pretty loss.


14 posted on 03/28/2015 7:40:27 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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To: SteveAustin

Cruz may do very well with the Mexican / Hispanic vote.

He received 41% of the “Hispanic” vote in Texas in his senatorial victory.

But you are so right about the World War II generation.
Most of them were in their late 50’s through mid 60’s during the 1980 general election.

My dad was 60 in November 1980. If he were still alive, he would be 96 in November 2016. Some of these WW II guys are still around, but most of them are not, and they are sorely missed.


15 posted on 03/28/2015 7:43:49 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Say no to amnesty, say no to treason.)
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To: bray
I think you are right on in your reasoning, bray.

One of the reasons (one of many) Liberals and the media (but, I repeat myself) fear Cruz is because they know he is a principled man and will not be swayed by either their bullying or seductive tactics. Millions are looking for a leader to lead this country out of this mess and Cruz is obviously a principled leader and can do it.

My greatest fear is being able to overcome the massive voter fraud which exists. I am convinced that cost Romney several key states in 2012 and nearly cost him North Carolina. Any major state with less than a 5% margin is at risk because of illegal voting and the programming of voting machines to switch votes from one candidate to the other - and we know which candidate and Party is the "other". In places like Oregon where they mail you the ballots it must be easy enough for union goons to "harvest" ballots by collecting them en-masse from people who aren't going to bother to vote or offering a bribe for them so they can fill them out and turn them in themselves.

16 posted on 03/28/2015 7:52:13 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama is fighting on the side of our enemies, therefore, committing treason - David Meir-Levy)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

For Freepers wondering what happened with this country, for me it started in 1992 when Ross Perot split the WWII generation vote and we allowed Slick Willie in there.

Then in 1998 the country made the seminal decision that moral values didn’t matter when they allowed Slick to stay in office after the Lewinsky debacle.

By 2000 when Slick left office, most of the WWII generation had retired from any positions of power in business, culture, etc.

Brave new world the last 15 years.


17 posted on 03/28/2015 7:53:50 AM PDT by SteveAustin
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To: xp38
I was nearing the end of my 4th year in Germany during the 1980 elections, and had lived in a small town for over 3. My neighbors pleaded with me to vote for Carter, as they were convinced that Reagan would start WWIII.

At least 3 times a week, I spent my evenings at the local gasthaus, and we had continuing discussions about the race. Fortunately by that time, my German was very conversational, and allowed me to offer my perspective. I spoke of American civics, intermixed with American and world history. I kept driving home the point that the world is a safer place when America is strong. That theme particularly holds true to this day.

A couple of weeks after Inauguration Day, and after our hostages had been released, I was invited to sit at the Stammtische, a table reserved for family and close friends of the family. It's an honor that I continue to cherish.

I have not felt the same way about a candidate since Ronald Reagan. My vote will go to Ted Cruz, and no one else, and my tagline reinforces that thought.

18 posted on 03/28/2015 8:13:51 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Night Hides Not
I have not felt the same way about a candidate since Ronald Reagan. My vote will go to Ted Cruz, and no one else, and my tagline reinforces that thought.

Amen, Friend. GO TED!!!

19 posted on 03/28/2015 8:17:27 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: Gritty

We cannot complain about voter fraud when we are not doing everything we can to get ours to vote. I know for a fact there were people who voted every election and did not vote for Romney because he insulted their beliefs. The same happened to Monica and will happen with Bush/whoever the swish the Repubs elect.

You win the election you can make fraud harder to do on the next election.


20 posted on 03/28/2015 8:17:41 AM PDT by bray (Cruz to the WH)
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