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1 posted on 03/29/2015 9:23:01 PM PDT by Steelfish
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I will oppose Apple!

And, I’ll get my FRiends to oppose Apple!

And, they’ll get their FRiends to oppose Apple!

We’ll boycott Apple!


28 posted on 03/29/2015 9:48:20 PM PDT by Taxman (I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!)
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For this kind of thing, and others, I refuse to buy or use Apple products. An Apple a day...does not compute!


29 posted on 03/29/2015 9:50:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Steelfish

Tim Cook is a homosexual. He thinks he can force people of faith to accept his perversion. He is wrong.


33 posted on 03/29/2015 10:01:14 PM PDT by txrefugee
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Boycott Apple - Tell the reprobate CEO to go “cook” his weenie in a toaster. Way past time to slam the heads of these twits into a granite wall. We’re going to let some friggin 2 percent of the population hijack the entire society and run us into the sewer? I think we need to start talking with our rifles.


36 posted on 03/29/2015 10:02:59 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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Where in the Bible does it say to not make hamburgers, or provide any other service, to gay people?

What about all of the the adulterers, lairs, thieves, etc?

The libertarian side of me believes that the government shouldn't enforce any discrimination laws, that people should be free to discriminate to anyone they choose.

But I also can't stand all of the self -righteous, probably closet homos, who pick and choose what sins they want to be offended about.

37 posted on 03/29/2015 10:04:22 PM PDT by Garfunkel Oates
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“These bills rationalize injustice by pretending to defend something many of us hold dear,” Cook wrote


hmm. only Christian small businessowners are being sued by homosexuals so it seems you don’t hold dear Religious Freedom.


38 posted on 03/29/2015 10:05:08 PM PDT by RginTN
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This guy might well be a money/profit maker but he is not one appointed or righteous enough to make societal decisions. I have been thinking of buying/trying some Apple trinkets but will shut down the feeling. I will also try to convince other people that Apple sees a dedicated role to twist US societal values.


40 posted on 03/29/2015 10:06:26 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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Much of corporate America is declaring war on Christians. I think more and more Christians are finally starting to wake up to this fact.


41 posted on 03/29/2015 10:07:07 PM PDT by greene66
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My sense is that the gays are beginning to sense a backlash building. The best way is stop the backlash before it builds momentum. For this reason, the gays are trying to go “Alinsky” on Indiana, although more than 20 states already have similar laws.


43 posted on 03/29/2015 10:10:24 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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If Apple believes it has a role to play in determining how to limit the freedom of people to practice their Christian faith then any Christian who doesn't dump whatever Apple products they already own to help collapse their resale value and especially any Christian who buys anything from Apple after this doesn't much care about their Christian faith.

JMHo

45 posted on 03/29/2015 10:13:59 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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Apple: if Christians are for it, we’re again’ it!


46 posted on 03/29/2015 10:18:44 PM PDT by 867V309 (Boehner is the new Pelosi)
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Ping regarding our conversation from the other day. It’s no longer in his free time. Now it’s company policy.


47 posted on 03/29/2015 10:20:55 PM PDT by TheZMan (I am a secessionist.)
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Apple has a monopoly therefore they can tell us what we will buy.

(/s)

53 posted on 03/29/2015 10:36:48 PM PDT by TYVets
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Apple, Starbucks... they must think that alienating half your customers is a good business plan.

Steve Jobs was smart enough to not wear his politics on his sleeves.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44801531


54 posted on 03/29/2015 10:40:35 PM PDT by aquila48 (JennysCool)
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Applebots here see no evil


58 posted on 03/29/2015 10:45:07 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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You know, what gays object to is that they feel blocked from practicing homosexuality - i.e. being able to go to any baker to get a wedding cake. That’s not the same as simply being homosexual. So their argument is that they have a right to practice thir homosexuality freely.

On the other hand, they say that Christians can be Christian so long as they don’t practice their Christianity openly. In other words, go to church, but don’t run your business based on your beliefs.

So that’s one level of legal contradiction. But it connects to another level of legal hypocrisy when you remember that selling something is not the only aspect of conducting business - shopping for something, offering to buy something, is also a type of conducting business.

It just seems to me that these are arguments that have a possibility of winning in court. You have to remember that the court decisions are based on definitions and perspectives of applying those definitions. Finding direct contradictions in acceptable definitions is how things are actually argued, and I haven’t heard these particular arguments being made.

Perhaps they should be. Freedom of association and freedom of conducting business has to work both ways, and cannot be ruled otherwise when directly addressed - and that’s the key, to figure out a way to directly address them. Gays are winning because what they are actually doing, linguistically with the law, is simply not being addressed - yet.


60 posted on 03/29/2015 10:49:24 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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So will Left stop complaining about Apple’s overseas tax sheltering?


68 posted on 03/29/2015 11:08:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Timmy,

We don’t want to hear about moral issues from corporations.

Does Apple do business in the muslim world? If so, are you speaking out against the treatment of women? I have not heard Apple’s position on the way islam treats gays?

Is it okay the way muslims are treating Jews and Christians in the Middle East? Let’s not target Christians, Tim. Apple is an international company. Let’s be fair.


70 posted on 03/29/2015 11:32:47 PM PDT by boycott
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With all due respect to Mr. Cook and his parents, as with many other people his parents evidently did not make sure that their son was taught about 10th Amendment-protected state powers versus constitutionally unprotected “rights” like gay agenda issues.

In fact, such state laws are based on Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

14th Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws [emphases added].

Regarding pro-gay, PC interpretations of the Equal Protections Clause also in Section 1, the Supreme Court has clarified that the 14th Amendment did not add any new rights to the Constitution.

“3. The right of suffrage was not necessarily one of the privileges or immunities of citizenship before the adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment, and that amendment does not add to these privileges and immunities. It simply furnishes additional guaranty for the protection of such as the citizen already had [emphasis added].” —Minor v. Happersett, 1874.

Note that Court’s clarification compliment’s the official clarification of Section 1 by John Bingham in the congressional record, Bingham the main author of Section 1.

“Mr. Speaker, this House may safely follow the example of the makers of the Constitution and the builders of the Republic, by passing laws for enforcing all the privileges and immunities of the United States as guaranteed by the amended Constitution and expressly enumerated in the Constitution [emphasis added].” —John Bingham, Congressional Globe, House of Representatives, 42nd Congress, 1st Session. (See lower half of third column.)

And since the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect gay agenda issues, the states are free to make laws which discriminate against such issues, as long as such laws do not also unreasonably abridge constitutionally enumerated rights.

In fact, by making such laws some states are protecting themselves from abridging enumerated rights like religious expression, some pro-gay activist states having already unthinkingly violated the 14th Amendment where constitutionally protected religious expression is concerned imo.

72 posted on 03/30/2015 12:03:30 AM PDT by Amendment10
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Has an iPhone ever been used in an IED that has killed American Marines? If so, Apple hate Marines. If not, Apple hates Muslims. Does apple sell products in Iran, Saudi Arabia, or any other Muslim cesspool that stones women for being raped or homosexuals hanged from construction cranes? Apple is a hate filled corporation. I can play their game too.


73 posted on 03/30/2015 12:28:40 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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