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We’re “disappointed” in Indiana for passing RFRA, says … NASCAR
Hotair ^ | 03/31/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 03/31/2015 11:59:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A statement that says everything while saying nothing.

NASCAR’s Brett Jewkes, senior vice president and chief communications officer, issued a statement as Pence spoke Tuesday.

“NASCAR is disappointed by the recent legislation passed in Indiana. We will not embrace nor participate in exclusion or intolerance. We are committed to diversity and inclusion within our sport and therefore will continue to welcome all competitors and fans at our events in the state of Indiana and anywhere else we race.”

Translation: Nothing has changed, including our willingness to do business in Indiana, but here’s some rhetoric for gay-rights activists in hopes that they won’t hassle us. It’s a nothingburger in practice but the fact that NASCAR felt obliged to dish it up goes to show how even groups closely identified with red-state culture now feel obliged to stay on the right side, i.e. the left side, of gay issues. That’s not because NASCAR’s controlled by liberals (or is it?). It’s because gay-rights activists are running circles around social cons when it comes to mobilizing economic and media power to support their cause. (Admittedly, not hard to do when upwards of 100 percent of the media sides with you on the issue.) If NASCAR was worried about its conservative audience rebelling, this statement wouldn’t have been issued.

Most of the left-wing criticism of RFRA is vacant on the merits too, in fact. As Scott Shackford says, the attacks on the statute are little more than a pretext for broadly signaling your virtue to fellow gay-rights supporters, which includes most of the media and corporate America. It doesn’t matter what the law says or what it’ll mean in practice. It doesn’t matter that 19 other states have their own version. It doesn’t matter that RFRA laws traditionally have been used by followers of marginalized religions to defend their beliefs from laws passed by the Christian majority, something the left logically should (and once did) support. What matters is showing those peacock feathers to impress the other birds.

Obviously nobody is obligated to engage in any form of discrimination in Indiana, and I would wager that 99.9 percent of Indiana’s businesses will not turn away a single person for being gay. But it’s all about positioning yourself within this moment we’re having. Pence has to pretend the law doesn’t protect bigotry against gays because that doesn’t poll so well anymore, but can’t seem to argue that protecting civil liberties often requires defending bigots or it’s not really a civil liberty. The CEO of Apple has to write a big commentary about how discrimination is wrong and bad, and how you should also know that Apple, the company that he works for that sells many, many expensive things to customers, would never do such a thing…

Massive gaming convention Gen Con had initially made a big deal about possibly moving out of state in response to passage of the RFRA, to “deny” the state millions in revenue. But that’s confusing the government of the state with the citizens of the state. It’s businesses in Indianapolis who actually rake in money from the convention. Gen Con has backed off for now after actually talking to the businesses that they deal with, who of course have absolutely no interest in discriminating against any gay Gen Con attendees.

But they signaled loud and clear. It doesn’t actually matter that the RFRA won’t really lead to some sort of new dark ages against the gays because culture simply has no interest in going there. The important thing is that people position themselves properly to be seen as good people by their peers.

Even Mike Pence has been caught up in the signaling game. His press conference this morning has conservatives calling him a sellout because he said he’ll push for an amendment clarifying that RFRA creates no right to discriminate against gays. But that’s been his position all along, and it’s correct on the merits: RFRA creates no absolute “right.” It creates a defense which you can introduce in court if you’re sued for denying service to someone on religious grounds. It’s left to the judge to balance the interest of the state in preventing discrimination against the interest of the defendant in his religious freedom in order to decide who wins. There’s no guarantee that the defendant will. But Indiana’s taken such a beating this week in PR that now Pence himself feels obliged to do some signaling to gay-rights activists by insisting that the law will only do, er, what it was supposed to do all along. It’s his own version of the NASCAR statement: Business as usual on RFRA but let’s make sure gay Americans understand that they’re welcome.

This seems like a fine time to repeat a point I’ve made in other posts about gay rights and religious liberty. If you want the left to appreciate freedom of religious conscience in business, you’ll get nowhere appealing to them with examples of Christian grannies politely refusing to provide flowers to a gay wedding ceremony. They’re not going to find someone like that sympathetic. The left views politics through a prism of power and reliably assumes that the advantage obtained by the powerful is ill-gotten and illegitimate. That’s why they can see the virtue of RFRA when used as a defense for someone practicing Santeria, say, but not Christianity. Being a Christian means you’re part of the majority which in turn makes you officially capital-p Powerful, whether or not that judgment is supported by the actual corporate/media dynamics of the current public accommodations debate. A “Christian baker versus gay spouse” match-up is an easy equation for the left in that context; all they’re doing in their minds is correcting an historical injustice by redistributing power between the two groups. A “Muslim baker versus gay spouse” match-up is not so easy because it involves two powerless, or at least less powerful, groups. If you want to force a hard choice on them, start going into Muslim-run bakeries and demanding gay-wedding cakes. Eventually one of them will turn you down. That’s your test case, although the baker will lose that in that case too. Hans Fiene knows why.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; indiana; mikepence; nascar; religiousfreedom; rfra
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1 posted on 03/31/2015 11:59:26 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NASCAR loves fags?

Wait ‘til the good ole boys hear about this.


2 posted on 03/31/2015 12:00:59 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unbelievable!


3 posted on 03/31/2015 12:02:03 PM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (And I will send fire on Magog- Ezkiel 39:6)
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To: SeekAndFind

All this hyperventilation over a law that mirrors Bubba Clintons Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993?
Sheesh.


4 posted on 03/31/2015 12:02:18 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’re disappointed in NASCAR.


5 posted on 03/31/2015 12:03:21 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Is a Republican who won't call Obama a Muslim worthy of your vote?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Translation: Nothing has changed, including our willingness to do business in Indiana, but here’s some rhetoric for gay-rights activists in hopes that they won’t hassle us. It’s a nothingburger in practice but the fact that NASCAR felt obliged to dish it up goes to show how even groups closely identified with red-state culture now feel obliged to stay on the right side, i.e. the left side, of gay issues.

The culture is sinking to new lows and everyone is held hostage to PC.

6 posted on 03/31/2015 12:04:31 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SeekAndFind; Servant of the Cross

The gaystapo has won ping...


7 posted on 03/31/2015 12:05:05 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: SeekAndFind
We will not embrace nor participate in exclusion or intolerance.

So NASCAR is in sync completely with Governor Pence.

Is NASCAR just being plain stupid or what??

8 posted on 03/31/2015 12:06:34 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: SeekAndFind

Adios NASCAR, pandering to a base that doesn’t even watch car racing


9 posted on 03/31/2015 12:07:24 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Arm_Bears
NASCAR loves fags?

Follow the money. Their advertisers & corporate sponsors do.

10 posted on 03/31/2015 12:07:36 PM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: SeekAndFind

They used to race stock cars.. Then they went crazy.

Cookie cutter drivers racing cookie cutter cars ruled over by a rule book everchanging and thicker than Obama’s skull.

Je$$e makes a visit.. Diversity is the word.

Bring back the chariots!


11 posted on 03/31/2015 12:08:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Arm_Bears
AHA! Jeff Gordon, just as we suspected! Now who's gonna be the first to post the Dick Trickle jokes?
12 posted on 03/31/2015 12:08:51 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Can you spell "craven sellouts," race fans?

NASCAR obviously got the orders from MSM headquarters: Corporations Can't Have Consciences, Unless They Oppose Mike Pence

13 posted on 03/31/2015 12:09:34 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can’t figure out why all this furor is being directed at Indiana when the same basic statute is in federal law...signed by Bill Clinton no less and passed almost unanimously by a Democrat controlled Congress. A very similar statute was enacted in Illinois with then State Senator Barrack Obama voting for it...yet no blow back on that. Obviously facts don’t matter to the media. Is this a media and gay vendetta against Governor Mike Pense? It seems like the LGBT group is just wildly indignant about everything not going their way.


14 posted on 03/31/2015 12:11:09 PM PDT by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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To: SeekAndFind
They quit being stock cars a long time ago so who cares what NASCAR says?

Of course they don't want to offend queers, they're part of the entertainment industry now, not a racing organization other than in name.

15 posted on 03/31/2015 12:11:20 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bad move, NASCAR. You really don’t know that a huge segment of your customer base includes a TON of Southern Christians?

Should have just kept your mouths shut, fools...


16 posted on 03/31/2015 12:11:42 PM PDT by piytar (If you don't know what the doctrines of taqiyya and abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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To: Arm_Bears

Well, they DO only make LEFT turns...


17 posted on 03/31/2015 12:12:01 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Plea$e $upport Free Republic!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wow..maybe NASCAR will be able to sell one ticket to a homosexual now. Rot in Hell, NASCAR.


18 posted on 03/31/2015 12:12:05 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Spewing the talking points.


19 posted on 03/31/2015 12:12:16 PM PDT by exnavy (An armed society is a polite society.)
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To: Arm_Bears

The base do not like the faggots but the sponsors do. The clown must have had calls to release a statement.


20 posted on 03/31/2015 12:12:27 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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