Rand Paul's excuse for avoiding the 'religious freedom' law controversy doesn't add up

Business Insider ^ | April 2, 2015 | Hunter Walker and Colin Campbell

[C19fan]

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) is the only major Republican likely 2016 presidential candidate who hasn't weighed in on the controversy over Indiana's "religious freedom" law that erupted this week — and his explanation for avoiding the issue is questionable.

[C19fan]

Coward. One would think given he so suppose to represent the libertarian wing he would come out in favor of a low protecting freedom of conscience. But I bet he is afraid of alienating the Millenials he needs to have a chance of winning.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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"Coward" and "Libertarian" are equal ...


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[a fool in paradise]

“The answer is above my paygrade” will always be valid to the MSM. After all, Obama used it to sidestep politically dangerous questions.

[rovenstinez]

BUSINESS LAW is not being addressed in this forum. I think they should let people sell pizzas to whomever or to NONE. And let the alternate gender community open up their own pizza parlor, make a BETTER pizza, serving GREAT pizzas to the Christians and edge them out of business........ AMERICA works, let the people figure it out but PLEASE keep Big Brother out of the fray.....please.

[11th_VA]

As a conservative Libertarian, I'm ashamed of Rand. This is all about freedom of conscience, freedom of assembly, and freedom of speech - fundamental tenants of our country.

If Rand can't see this, can't articulate this, and is no better than the other GOP candidates whose God is money, God help us.

If the state can now compel someone to act against their conscience, 500 years of Western Civilization is on the edge.

[Road Warrior ‘04]

DO NOT TRUST RAND PAUL!™

[rovenstinez]

I heard from wise Evangelical Fundamental Christian Conservative Bible Business People....say...that the MONEY, and profit they receive from Muslims, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Scientologists and New Age clowns looks REAL good at the end of the day deposited in the bank. I think they need to let the BUSINESS LAW of supply and demand go to work and keep the governors desk free of such nonsense.

[Amendment10]

Thank you for referencing that article C19fan. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

There is no real controversy about Indiana’s religous freedom law imo. Sadly, low-information Christians in this case and related cases evidently don’t know the Constitution well enough to protect themselves from their states regardless if states like Indiana had never made such a law.

As mentioned in related threads, the key constitutional statute is Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

14th Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Note that the “privileges or immunities” term which John Bingham, the main author of Section 1, used in that section is just another way to refer to constitutionally enumerated rights, most of these well-known rights, including 1st Amendment-protected freedom of religious expression, listed in the Bill of Rights.

And Christians must keep in mind that the low-information state government “leaders” of their respective states are probably just as clueless as to what the Constitution indicates about such issues as the government “leaders” in Indiana evidently are.

[Mastador1]

Well it’s not like it was about anything important, like...............drugs.

[ansel12]

Conservative libertarian is a contradiction in terms, a propaganda choice of words to create an illusion.

Famed libertarian Penn Jillette has come out against the law.

Reason magazine, the flagship libertarian publication has also come out against it.

[Fledermaus]

Mostly because Penn HATES religion of all kind. He gets foam-at-the-mouth insane about it.

[Forgotten Amendments]

As a conservative Libertarian, I'm ashamed of Rand. This is all about freedom of conscience, freedom of assembly, and freedom of speech - fundamental tenants of our country.

Yes, Rand isn't ready for prime time. He tries to be all things to all people. I wish he'd just be the libertarian voice of the Senate and earn respect.

[Bratch]

Rand Paul strikes me as someone whose ambition outweighs his principles.

[ansel12]

He is a libertarian, which is anti-Christian.

Reason magazine also opposes the law, and is ranting against it.

[SunkenCiv]

Why do people act as if this is something new or out of what passes for character?

Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance

...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.

[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]

• Rand Paul: Republicans Need to Soften on Social Issues

[gwgn02]

Honestly, I think Rand Paul is a giant pussy.

[11th_VA]

Taken to an extreme, Libertarianism becomes anarchy. I am a Libertarian, in the sense that the Aposle Paul was a Libertarian - all things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable.

I believe people should be free to be what they are, as their conscience leads them. But don't give power to the government to compel me to believe what I know is not true.

[Patton@Bastogne]

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I understand the "business aspect" as well as the "Constitutional aspect".

The pizza business owners were being deliberately harassed (as have been Christian bakers and florists) by the same "exact" type of Neo-Nazi-Gay-Gestapo thugs that successfully DESTROYED Jewish businesses in 1938 under Hitler.

As the "Moslem Gay Wedding Cake video" shows ... this situation is NOT about "gays" wanting businesses to bake a cake or make a floral arrangement for them ...

rather ... the entire situation is about the Gay-Gestapo and the Obama Administration and the MSM and Academia ...

wanting to DESTROY (yes, destroy) "Christian America".

Period.

So, what's the first step to destroy "Christian America" ?

Outlaw Sunday Church services ?

Hardly.

No ... the first step is to destroy them FINANCIALLY.



Rand Paul (Google Ron Paul !!!!!!!) knows this all too well ...

and he LIKES it.

Period.




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[SunkenCiv]

That’s kind of insulting to p-. ;’) Thanks gwgn02.

[SunkenCiv]

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Audit the Head!