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UKRAINE:
http://maidantranslations.com/2015/04/24/latest-numbers-of-russian-combat-equipment-transferred-to-donbas-freesavchenko/ ^ | 4-24-2014 | Dmitry Tymchuk

Posted on 04/25/2015 9:02:21 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Dmitry Tymchuk, Head of the Center for Military and Political Research, Coordinator of the Information Resistance group, Member of Parliament (People’s Front) 04.21.2015 Translated and edited by Voices of Ukraine

Based on the results of OSINT (open-source intelligence) and by summarizing the data of the IR group’s network, the experts of Information Resistance calculated the approximate numbers of combat equipment and auxiliary supplies which Russia has transferred to Donbas after the signing of the Minsk Agreements, and as of April 20, 2015.

Tanks at DNR's training grounds. Photograph by Petr Shelomoiskiy

Tanks at the DNR’s training grounds. Photograph by Petr Shelomoiskiy

Namely, over the last two months, the following items have been “purchased” in Russian “stores” and delivered to the “peaceful citizens” of Donbas:

– multiple rocket launching systems (including Tornado) – approximately 70 units;

– infantry combat vehicles – approximately 30;

– armored personnel carriers – approximately 45;

– tanks (including T-80) – approximatel 200;

– approximately 900 trucks* with ammunition and other material and technical supplies.

The information about the numbers of artillery units and mortars transferred to Donbas are controversial, therefore, we are not quoting them at this time.

By the most conservative estimates, up to 150 railway tankers with fuel were delivered to Donbas, thanks to the services of Russian Railways**. We lack the exact numbers of fuel dispensing trucks that entered Ukraine, but their arrivals were recorded on multiple occasions.

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* – this includes ammunition delivered to Ukraine by railroad. Therefore, Russian Railways is the official sponsor of the terrorists.

** – only confirmed numbers are quoted here; real numbers can be higher.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agitprop; propaganda; ukietrolls

1 posted on 04/25/2015 9:02:21 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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2 posted on 04/25/2015 9:03:46 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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Thanks, UMC, but I need a translation. A big build up here, I take it. And the actual goal of such a build up is to take over, end it, show off for the allies?? All of the above?


3 posted on 04/25/2015 9:07:26 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

US now has boots on the ground in Ukraine. It is just my guesses, but I think it’s a red line for some people and they really mean it.


4 posted on 04/25/2015 9:11:55 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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To: RitaOK

yes.
Ukraine is trying to hold by Minsk Peace Agreement. However, they are allowed to defend themselves if attacked.

Ukraine is fighting against Russian Federation that is using them as a training field for new recruits & testing of their new weapons. One lucky thing is teh Russian troops DISLIKE IMMENSELY the Pro Russian militants & mercenaries.. they even shoot each other!!!


5 posted on 04/25/2015 9:16:39 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: RitaOK

BTW, Ukraine is under intense cyber attack


6 posted on 04/25/2015 9:18:07 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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“-tanks (including T-80) – approximatel 200;
– approximately 900 trucks* with ammunition”

Doncha just LOVE Kiev’s State-approved propaganda?

With these numbers, the total numbers of “Tanks from Russia” alone is well over 1,500. This is WELL ABOVE Operation Bagration (The largest offensive in ww2) numbers, and that involved MILLIONS of troops.

(In addition to the 1,000+ Missile launchers and 1,200+ guns that Kiev already claims)

And yet, no one can seem to provide a single sat photo of them?


7 posted on 04/25/2015 9:23:00 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To continue, if the rebels had anywhere near the numbers that Kiev has claimed, they’d have taken Ukraine, LONG ago.


8 posted on 04/25/2015 9:24:14 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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Look at his first photo. Why does ‘Russian’ tank has Ukrainian flag wrapped around snorkel?


9 posted on 04/25/2015 9:27:00 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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“Look at his first photo. Why does ‘Russian’ tank has Ukrainian flag wrapped around snorkel?”

Doesn’t look like a flag to me, just a cover. But, take a look at the lower three pictures.

We’ve known for almost a year that the Rebels have a good vehicle recovery, rebuild system. There are MANY pics and videos of the (At least) 3 factories they have converted for it.

And Kiev just keeps giving the rebels more stuff, like the 20-30 tanks they captured at Debaltseve, most of which were just out of gas.


10 posted on 04/25/2015 9:33:37 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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True, not a flag upon careful examination but still looks like yellow and blue thing.


11 posted on 04/25/2015 9:40:48 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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Let’s take another look at this claim that “Russia sent 200 tanks” (that would make around 1,500 total, if you add up all of the Kiev claims”.

Any thinking person would ask, “If they had so many tanks, wouldn’t they USE them?”

We know that the largest rebel deployment of tanks so far was during the Debaltseve attacks. They deployed about 90-100 tanks, in total, throughout the fighting, bringing many in after the first couple of weeks.

The largest single group of tanks used so far was the armored attack southeast of Debaltseve, They reportedly used the entire Donetsk “Armored Division” in that attack, which was 25-35 tanks.

It was in this battle that the Donetsk Armor commander, the same guy that set up the armor support system, a 72 yr-old retired Russian Army officer, was killed leading his troops into battle, when his tank hit a mine.

Again, if the rebels had anywhere close to the numbers of Tanks, IFV’s, Guns, and rocket launchers that Kiev claims Russia has given them, don’t you think they would USE THEM?

Or that they would show up on satellite photos?


12 posted on 04/25/2015 10:35:47 AM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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‘Or that they would show up on satellite photos?’

Who needs satellite photos when ‘everybody know the invasion takes place!’ anyway.

Then they would post an interview of Tibetan monk, playing a tanker who ‘killed for Empire’ from Moscow opposition paper and no facts are needed anymore.


13 posted on 04/25/2015 10:48:29 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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To: Paid_Russian_Troll
Good afternoon.

Two items. First, if you are a paid Russian troll, I appreciate your honesty. Second, if you know Vlad Pooty Poot, please tell him to go reproduce asexually for me. Thanx.

5.56mm

14 posted on 04/25/2015 10:56:17 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Hi there! I actually don’t know him in person so I can’t relay your coded message, sorry:)


15 posted on 04/25/2015 10:59:44 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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your coded message

My bad. It is not a "coded" message. In colloquial American, it means for Putin to "go fu@k himself."

My apologies for not being clear.

5.56mm

16 posted on 04/25/2015 11:07:52 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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I understood, it wasn’t necessary to deface this forum this way!:)


17 posted on 04/25/2015 11:15:53 AM PDT by Paid_Russian_Troll
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