Posted on 05/14/2015 2:59:26 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
CLIMATE CHANGE expert Dr Benny Peiser has claimed some surface temperature recordings used as the basis for global warming evidence are GUESSED AT – including in the Arctic and Antarctic.
The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), chaired by former Conservative chancellor Nigel Lawson, has recently launched an inquiry into the reliability of global surface temperature records, with a group of international "eminent climatologists, physicists and statisticians" set to probe current data.
With different sets of results appearing to conflict each other, the GWPF say they have received questions and concerns about which records are accurate and why some adjustments in temperatures are made over the years.
But now their inquiry is underway, Dr Benny Peiser, director of the GWPF, has said he hopes the findings will address the lack of clarity and transparency he claims surrounds temperature records - while admitting his "growing concern" about the gathering of global warming statistics.
One key issue which Dr Peiser claims has caused confusion is a discrepancy between surface temperature data and satellite findings.
Figures from the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) use a network of ground-based weather stations to compile their results and recently predicted that this year will outrank 2014 as "the hottest ever".
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Great pic!
“guessing” sure has made Al Gore rich!
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Of course it is guessed at. They struggle with the 24-72 hour forecast. How can they be even remotely accurate on the 25, 50, or 100 year forecast?
I heard a comedian say that once they can sort out partly cloudy versus the partly sunny then they could talk to him about Armageddon.
Good communist propagandists know “Once seen it cannot be unseen and once heard it can’t be unheard.”
Works, doesn’t it. The timid sheep believe everything they have seen and heard on liberal TV and like the phrase states......once seen and once heard.
“Of course it is guessed at. They struggle with the 24-72 hour forecast. How can they be even remotely accurate on the 25, 50, or 100 year forecast?”
This is a poor leap in logic that I have repeatedly tried to correct here.
I can’t tell if you are going to die in the next day, week, or month, but I can make pretty good guesses on your chances to die in the next 25, 50, or 100 years.
Weather is not climate.
Or “pulled out of their asses”.
Weather is not climate, it is true, but your analogy fails as well.
In a particular location, we can get a fairly good idea of a range of temperatures in a given month and or day; but we can no more predict a bias in the change of the average than we can predict the temperature 7 days from now.
The ability to predict the future weather from the climate records depends on a stable climate. Predicting changes in climate depends on computer models less useful, validated, and understood than models of the weather used for prediction of weather 7 days from now.
OK!! Everybody pay attention!
Lesson for today:
1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.
2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.
3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.
4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.
5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.
Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?
Blind Prediction Theory... make up a sample and derive statistical results.
Good point. No. Weather is not climate but predictions are unreliable and inaccurate almost always. Of course that does not stop anyone. People have forever been trying to predict markets with little success. Yes, some hit it but not consistently.
Climate is as difficult if not more difficult to predict than weather. If you cannot create a scientific model to accurate predict tomorrow’s or next week’s weather, excuse me if I am a little skeptical about long range climate predictions.
Just as you note, I will die, perhaps wishful thinking on your part (seemingly you are not, congratulations), but cannot say when or how. I concede climate will change, and like my death no one can say when (unless there is a contract on me) However, to alter an entire economy or civilization according to these questionable models is silly. Of course climate alarmism is simply a convenient catalyst for altering society and gaining control over virtually everything. As George Will recently noted, environmentalism IS socialism.
I have never said that climate scientists have been able to develop accurate climate models. I just wanted to point out that large variations over the short-term or in small sample sizes don’t mean that pretty accurate predictions over the long-term or in large sample sizes can’t be made.
With things like life expectancy, there has been enough information gathered that fairly accurate predictions can be made. Even the amount of increase in average life expectancy can be predicted within a fairly small range.
I do not believe that climate scientists have enough understanding of the complexity of the inputs to be able to make accurate models. If you remember, this whole climate change movement started based on a single idea that there would be a decrease in radiation of earth’s heat due to the absorption of infrared radiation by an increase in CO2. While I believe that single idea is true, it a stretch to say someone can predict that LA or NY will be under water in 100 years because the ice caps and Greenland will melt away. There are just too many unknowns to be able to do that.
I will say, however, that there have been many, fairly regularly occurring ice ages, and we’re on the downward side of the latest interglacial period. While the sudden advance of the ice shield is still about 10,000 years away, I would have more faith in that prediction than in the one that says Chicago’s future is in growing bananas.
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