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Boy Scouts’ President Calls for End to Ban on Gay Leaders
New York Times ^ | May 21, 2015 | ERIK ECKHOLM

Posted on 05/21/2015 10:42:22 AM PDT by reaganaut1

The president of the Boy Scouts of America on Thursday called for an end to the group’s blanket ban on gay adult leaders, warning Scout executives that “we must deal with the world as it is, not as we might wish it to be,” and that “any other alternative will be the end of us as a national movement.”

At the same time, religious organizations that sponsor a majority of local Scout troops, including the Mormons and Roman Catholics, should remain free to set their own policies for leaders, said the president, Robert M. Gates, the former director of the C.I.A. and the former secretary of defense.

Mr. Gates called for the changes at an annual national meeting of the group, in Atlanta. He said that he was not yet making a formal proposal but that the Scouts’ governing body should take up the issue formally at a future meeting.

The treatment of gay men and boys has been a source of wrenching debate over the last decade. Conservative religious groups that sponsor many Scout troops, including the Mormon Church and the Roman Catholic Church, have opposed the participation of openly gay members while local leaders in more liberal areas have called for an end to the ban.

In 2013, Boy Scout leaders from across the country voted, with more than 60 percent approval, to say that no youth may be denied membership “on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone.” But it left intact the policy that no openly gay adults could serve in the organization.

Since then, a Scout group in New York has defied that policy by employing an openly gay leader, and several other groups around the country have expressed opposition to the ban.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; deathofthewest; foxinthehenhouse; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; pedophilia; robertgates; scouting
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I have a son in Cub Scouts and don't agree with Gates. And if the Boy Scouts do allow religious groups to exclude gays from leadership positions, that won't satisfy the homosexuals either.

How did an unhealthy lifestyle attain such political dominance? I don't get it.

1 posted on 05/21/2015 10:42:22 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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The Boy Scouts lost this with their first compromise. These people compromise like Hitler compromised. It is to buy them time for they next takeover.


2 posted on 05/21/2015 10:44:44 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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“we must deal with the world as it is, not as we might wish it to be...”

So let’s expose them to perverts. FU


3 posted on 05/21/2015 10:45:03 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: reaganaut1
Insanity, the Boy Scouts of America is dead in my book.

My son and I were in Cub and Boy Scouts too.

There are Christian alternative organizations out there.

Leave the BSA, leave now!

4 posted on 05/21/2015 10:45:53 AM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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BSA needs to go with three-deep leadership, just to make it harder for the perverts to pair double-team kids on camping trips. Better, they could man up and say that, no, BSA is not a candy store for predators. It’s sad what has happened to a formerly great organization.


5 posted on 05/21/2015 10:45:59 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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As shocking as all the left’s depravity push is, it’s the nonsense being pushed on children that I find the most shocking. Hello? Parents? Why are you allowing this? The group that has no ability to produce children is getting the biggest say in raising them.


6 posted on 05/21/2015 10:46:36 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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> How did an unhealthy lifestyle attain such political
> dominance? I don’t get it.

Read 2nd Timothy Chapter 3, 2nd Thessalonians 2:11, and Romans 1:18-31.


7 posted on 05/21/2015 10:48:54 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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Pick homosexual men who like to hang around with young boys as Scout Masters and let them sleep with young boys in the woods.

What could possibly go wrong with that?

And no, I am not suggesting that all homosexuals are pedophiles, just the ones who like to hang around with young boys and sleep with them in the woods.


8 posted on 05/21/2015 10:49:06 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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At age 12, my “best friend” and fellow Scout tried to force me to do an unmentionable act upon him during a weekend camporee, and the following week at school used the incident to get me branded as a queer. It followed me through my school years and has caused me problems for many years after. I couldn’t report him, his father was the Scoutmaster.

If the gays want to have their own youth (molestation) organization, OK. But keep them out of ours.


9 posted on 05/21/2015 10:49:53 AM PDT by fredhead (Join the Navy and see the world.....77% of which is covered in water.)
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Might make one wonder about the orientation of that Boy Scouts’ President.


10 posted on 05/21/2015 10:50:59 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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As soon as the Girl Scouts start to have unmarried young men taking their troops on camping trips, I’m fine with it.


11 posted on 05/21/2015 10:51:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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Proper response: “We oppose gay leadership in the Scouts for common sense reasons. Deal with us as we are, not as you wish us to be.”


12 posted on 05/21/2015 10:51:38 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Also keep in mind that Jerry Sandusky was “married” to a woman.


13 posted on 05/21/2015 10:51:55 AM PDT by dfwgator
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What about the kids’ parents holding the scoutmaster
accountable??


14 posted on 05/21/2015 10:52:52 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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I mean-What does it take?
We saw the catastrophe that was allowed to happen in the Catholic church when homosexual priests were permitted around young boys and male teenagers.
Did I not read somewhere that a huge proportion of those victims of these pedophiles were male?
15 posted on 05/21/2015 10:56:24 AM PDT by Larry381 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: reaganaut1

This was their purpose in hiring Gates. They had already decided to do it.


16 posted on 05/21/2015 10:56:55 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: reaganaut1
Sodom and Gomorrha
17 posted on 05/21/2015 10:57:17 AM PDT by Cedar
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To: reaganaut1

I actively supported the BSA for years, until they caved to the homo-fascists. I have nothing but contempt for the entire organization now. I spit on them.


18 posted on 05/21/2015 10:57:44 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Jim Noble

Exactly. The issue is not wanting scout leaders who have a sex attraction to the kids.

Girl Scouts don’t allow men to go on camping trips with the girls. Why? Because of the issues of getting dressed, getting undressed, showering, bathing, other bathroom functions, etc. Its because there is a high level of discomfort in having men around at such times and places.

The same reasoning applies to.not wanting homosexual men around boys.


19 posted on 05/21/2015 10:58:01 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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As predicted...and within his first year. I’m not surprised by this statement at all.

Many can tolerate sexually confused youth claiming to be homosexual, but many will absolutely NOT tolerate homosexual adults mixed with youth.

If the BSA moves ahead with this policy, only the rabid BSA kool-aid drinkers and homosexuals will remain.


20 posted on 05/21/2015 11:00:03 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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