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Transgender Surgery Isn't the Solution [Surgery increases likelihood of Suicide 20X]
WSJ ^ | 6/12/2014 | Paul McHugh

Posted on 06/05/2015 4:48:54 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas

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To: Erik Latranyi

So...a choppadicoffamy procedure can never be followed by an addadictomy. Makes sense.

Unlike Bruce-Caitlyn Jenner.

BTW, I predict the name Caitlyn will become as popular for girls as Adolph is for boys.


21 posted on 06/05/2015 6:01:56 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

Did Jenner have it chopped off?


22 posted on 06/05/2015 6:09:28 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Shoot, spread the word here. I have been told this is a wonderful fix for people who are in the wrong body, and we should be happy for that.


23 posted on 06/05/2015 6:20:53 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Transgender Surgery Isn't the Solution [Surgery increases likelihood of Suicide 20X]

Is it the surgery or the clients mental illness prior to, during and afterwards that causes suicide?

24 posted on 06/05/2015 6:22:30 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Triple

——The story is that Bruce did NOT have his weeniewacked!!


25 posted on 06/05/2015 6:23:24 AM PDT by oldbugleboy
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To: oldbugleboy

So, what is all the fuss about? He is just another guy that likes to dress in woman’s clothes. They are a dime a dozen. Aren’t they?

Is he extra special because he insists he is a woman, and wants us all to play along?

I really don’t get this stuff...


26 posted on 06/05/2015 6:31:32 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

Liberals are trying to prove that there’s no difference between men and women by saying a guy in women’s clothes becomes a woman.

Ironically, by taking the transgender argument that he’s a man with a woman’s brain, it undermines feminism. Feminists say women are just as good (or better) than men because they are equal and anatomy doesn’t matter, while transgenders say you can have a female brain with lots of differences.

Oh, and like the insanity of homosexual men setting the fashion standards for women based on prepubescent boys, now you have mentally ill men defining femininity on the most old-fashioned female stereotypes of clothing and behavior.


27 posted on 06/05/2015 8:23:58 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: 1Old Pro

The suicide rate is high in the years after surgery, because the “treatment” of surgery didn’t treat the underlying mental illnesses.


28 posted on 06/05/2015 8:24:49 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Shadow44

Anyone who says science is apolitical should look at the Soviet Union.

Those who didn’t believe that they lived in a paradise on Earth while in a third world hellhole were diagnosed as having “sluggish schizophrenia”. Political dissidents could then be locked up on a doctor’s word, drugged, tortured, lectured, and there’s no need for even a trial or legal involvement.

Liberals have done the same thing with sexual disorders, trying to remove the medical diagnosis to make it normal. In order, they have been making homosexuality not a mental illness (changing it from a mental disorder to OK after a majority of the board members were homosexual, source, “Kinsey: crime and consequences), then debating the evil of pedophilia (studies on the percentages of victims who don’t see it as harmful), excusing incest with genetic attraction disorder, making transgenderism “normal” and supporting a ban on conversion therapy to help those with same sex attraction overcome it.


29 posted on 06/05/2015 8:28:28 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

30 posted on 06/05/2015 8:30:51 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I just keep on plugging away. Letting it get you down just wastes energy and effort.


31 posted on 06/05/2015 2:30:56 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

My point exactly. Treat the disease, don’t indulge it.


32 posted on 06/05/2015 2:52:24 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Travis McGee
You can't change your gender: Have you ever heard of Body Integrity Identity Disorder? Long story short, there are people out there who believe they're "supposed to" have less limbs. Maybe they want to get rid of an arm or a leg. The "problem" these people run into is that surgeons consider it unethical to remove a healthy, functioning body part and refuse to saw off their limbs. Instead, they just refer these people to a psychologist. That seems to make sense, doesn't it?

Yet, when we have people who want to mutilate themselves to "change their sex," we don't treat that as a mental disorder. Instead, we take it seriously. So seriously in fact, we have 9 year olds getting hormone treatments so they can pretend to be another gender.

If a client went to a doctor and said he thought he was a cow, we wouldn't send him to a surgeon to get horns and udders attached. Yet, you can no more change your sex than you can change into a cow. Even if you have a "sex change," your sex hasn't actually changed. A man who mutilates himself to look like a woman, still isn't female. He can't have a child. Very few men are going to knowingly date a man who's surgically mutilated himself to look like a woman. This is a terrible, horrible thing we're doing as a society to these mentally ill people. Instead of getting them the mental help they need, we're catering to their pathology. It's cruel, it's wrong, and a more compassionate society wouldn't wallow so deeply in political correctness that we'd allow people to do this to themselves.

33 posted on 06/05/2015 3:29:05 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

You’re right, no doubt.


34 posted on 06/05/2015 4:23:04 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: tbw2

Well thought


35 posted on 06/05/2015 5:25:35 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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