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Islamic State Militants Eye Mecca, Medina
VOA ^ | 6/9/15 | Jeff Seldin

Posted on 06/09/2015 3:38:11 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Billthedrill
Bore from within.

Based on experience, given you screen name?

21 posted on 06/09/2015 4:03:46 PM PDT by null and void (I wish we lived in less interesting times, but at least we have front-row seats.)
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To: markomalley

Saudi Arabia seems like a strong, unified country. From the prospective of the Middle East, it is. But like a Ming vase with a crack in it, it has an inherent and potentially fatal flaw. The royal family maintains control through the religious police, a secret police and payments to every citizen based on oil revenues. The family is always on shaky religious ground because they, by necessity, deal daily with issues like loans and interest which are not allowed by Islamic law. They have done some theological contortions to create the appearance of conforming, but they aren’t and it’s fairly obvious. It is also unlikely that the Saudi military will die for the country. The military is controlled mostly by royal family officers who got their positions through genetics rather than skill, which has historically been a losing formulae. If soldiers start to die the royal family will be at great risk of being overthrown. There is no other governing body that could step into the breach and the country would likely splinter instantly into tiny fiefdoms. Iran, could at any moment, close the Straits of Hormuz which would cut off the bribe payments to the populace. Saudi Arabia is, despite appearances to the contrary, one of the most fragile governments in the Middle East.


22 posted on 06/09/2015 4:04:24 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: markomalley

Feed the alligator, expect to be food.


23 posted on 06/09/2015 4:05:10 PM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: okie01

Well, we do not import that much from SA. Seems like the Chinese and Japs might be more interested in stopping them.


24 posted on 06/09/2015 4:08:27 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: markomalley

Eyes on the prize.
The Holy Cities are jewels in the Caliphate Crown.


25 posted on 06/09/2015 4:10:30 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Vermont Lt
Well, we do not import that much from SA. Seems like the Chinese and Japs might be more interested in stopping them.

I imagine you are correct.

The US, however, should still be committed to "the free flow of oil at market prices". And I'm thinking that American oil companies retain a substantial financial interest in Aramco.

26 posted on 06/09/2015 4:13:22 PM PDT by okie01
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To: markomalley

I wonder if those who said Romney was just as bad as Obama will finally admit they were wrong. And stupid.


27 posted on 06/09/2015 4:17:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: okie01

Yes....but wouldn’t it be fun to watch? Just for a couple of minutes?


28 posted on 06/09/2015 4:24:28 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: markomalley

Oh ! we can’t let them get those places! we better nuke them first so as to keep them out of the bad guys hands


29 posted on 06/09/2015 4:29:35 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: markomalley

Wouldn’t be the first time.

Mecca and Medina are segregated Islamic supremacist cities anyhow.


30 posted on 06/09/2015 4:30:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: null and void
Based on experience, given you screen name?

It is true. For years now people of this planet have assumed my fair intentions. MUHAHAHAHA!!

31 posted on 06/09/2015 4:31:01 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Vermont Lt
Yes....but wouldn’t it be fun to watch? Just for a couple of minutes?

Sorry, I don't have much stomach for beheadings. You can have the watching, I'll stick with imagining...

32 posted on 06/09/2015 4:31:12 PM PDT by okie01
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To: markomalley

Does this mean that the Saudis are going to stop funding radical Islam abroad since that was the agreement last time this happened?


33 posted on 06/09/2015 4:31:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: Billthedrill

SA has used the relief valve of allowing their ‘youths’ to flood the battlefields of Iraq and Syria. Gitmo is full of them, as was Abu Ghraib.
They don’t mind them going out and killing whitey or killing the Shia. But, they don’t want them back in their country.


34 posted on 06/09/2015 4:32:55 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: tet68
Eyes on the prize. The Holy Cities are jewels in the Caliphate Crown.

While I am no expert, ISIS seems to want to destroy Mecca rather than rule over it.

35 posted on 06/09/2015 4:35:29 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: markomalley

Bizarre world for sure. Let’s see now, who are the muslim good guys?


36 posted on 06/09/2015 4:35:59 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: truth_seeker

Nah, the Saudis enjoy their western lifestyle (when off campus) too much to let the isis idiots win, plus they are armed to the teeth and well trained.

BTW, I attended a private showing of an old classic movie (Harold and Maude) at a local MeetUp group last weekend, and met a very young Saudi guy there, maybe 18-20. He’s at a local uni on a one-year arts scholarship to study movie directing. A polite, good-natured young man with at least a half-western mindset.

Saudi has a lot of citizens like this one. They are not going to let their country go down to mediaeval isis creeps. I look forward to getting to know him at these events during his year here, hope to get further insights and perhaps even influence his thinking. In my jeans, sipping a glass of champagne and petting a gorgeous collie, I was so incredibly different from his grandma back in the kingdom. LOL.


37 posted on 06/09/2015 4:48:22 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: okie01

I was thinking more of them blowing up the big black box in the middle of Mecca.


38 posted on 06/09/2015 5:00:46 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THe odd thing is that the Saudi’s helped get Obola elected.....and they must be ruing their choice


39 posted on 06/09/2015 5:14:18 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Veto!

“They are not going to let their country go down to mediaeval isis creeps.”

And during my corporate career, I worked with an Iranian fellow, who had earned his undergrad engineering degree here, and then continued as my subordinate, working on his MBA.

All the while he assured us he favored western democracy, once the Shah was finished.

When 1979 came along, and Americans were held hostage, this guy celebrated the revolution. Within days his fellow workers, entirely shocked and feeling betrayed, virtually ran him off the premises.

We were a large multinational, with our own employees still holed up in Tehran, Esfahan, etc.

He blew whatever way the wind blew. I don’t trust anybody of any stripe from the region.

No offense, or criticism of your friendship. Good luck.


40 posted on 06/09/2015 6:36:39 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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