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Islamic State Militants Eye Mecca, Medina
VOA ^ | 6/9/15 | Jeff Seldin

Posted on 06/09/2015 3:38:11 PM PDT by markomalley

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To: Lurker

Ditto!


41 posted on 06/09/2015 6:37:43 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: piytar

Then it sounds like a win.


42 posted on 06/09/2015 6:38:43 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Very good analysis.
2 additional points.
1) Saudi royals (so many of them) each faction, at higher echelons at least, has its own mini military or more like mercenaries to protect them or their ‘faction’. This is similar to the regime mullahs in Iran.
2) Saudi gov’t, within SA, is very selective who they choose to militarily train. That’s why your point is sound, “genetics vs skills”. And, that’s why in Yemen in recent months Saudis relied on a coalition, including the Egyptian military. Although SA is well-stocked in equipment and weapons.


43 posted on 06/09/2015 6:52:05 PM PDT by odds
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To: truth_seeker

Yes, all you say is probably true. But I was feeling a little ray of hope when I met this nice young man. Who knows? When I was seated next to him, I intentionally called the dog over….. a gorgeous collie, beloved by our hostess, and noticed that the “nice” young man had zero response to the dog……it’s an Arab thing….they hate dogs…oh well.

I was in SF in ‘79…there were always demonstrations of one sort of another there, but when the Iranian students started, I was with my daughter downtown shopping, noticed an entirely different tone…they weren’t just shouting and marching, they were focussed like nothing I’d seen or heard before. They changed the world.

Saw a show on late-nite PBS recently, a film about Jewish businessmen in Tehran with their families in ‘79….they sent their families back to Israel right away, but stayed for weeks, hoping things would calm down. Footage of the early days of revolution were very interesting and distressing. The men finally packed up to leave because “no one can win against a crowd that doesn’t care whether they die for their cause.”

Chilling, huh?


44 posted on 06/09/2015 7:05:29 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Vermont Lt
I was thinking more of them blowing up the big black box in the middle of Mecca.

Would they blow it up?

Or would they venerate it?

45 posted on 06/09/2015 7:05:47 PM PDT by okie01
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To: Veto!

“Yes, all you say is probably true. But I was feeling a little ray of hope when I met this nice young man. Who knows? When I was seated next to him, I intentionally called the dog over….. a gorgeous collie, beloved by our hostess, and noticed that the “nice” young man had zero response to the dog……it’s an Arab thing….they hate dogs…oh well.

I was in SF in ‘79…there were always demonstrations of one sort of another there, but when the Iranian students started, I was with my daughter downtown shopping, noticed an entirely different tone…they weren’t just shouting and marching, they were focussed like nothing I’d seen or heard before. They changed the world.

Saw a show on late-nite PBS recently, a film about Jewish businessmen in Tehran with their families in ‘79….they sent their families back to Israel right away, but stayed for weeks, hoping things would calm down. Footage of the early days of revolution were very interesting and distressing. The men finally packed up to leave because “no one can win against a crowd that doesn’t care whether they die for their cause.”

Chilling, huh?”

Shortly after the revolution, my brother hired a man here in The OC, for menial labor. He had smuggled himself and some gold out of Iran.

He was an MD, and a Jew.


46 posted on 06/09/2015 7:12:05 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: okie01

You need to do some reading.


47 posted on 06/10/2015 3:09:33 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Veto!
Let’s see now, who are the muslim good guys?

So let's leave it alone, 'cause we can't see eye to eye. There ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys. There's only you and me and we just disagree. Ooo - ooo - ooohoo oh - oh - o-whoa

48 posted on 06/10/2015 2:03:41 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Feckless
Unlike the Iraqis they will not break and run.

Also, unlike the U.S., they will absolutely NOT fight using Rules of Engagement written by the enemy!!

49 posted on 06/10/2015 6:21:28 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: publius911

I saw that first hand during Desert Storm when I was attached to the KAAMB at Al Khafji.


50 posted on 06/10/2015 6:24:32 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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