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Scott Walker, Set for a Bigger Stage, Faces G.O.P Revolt in Wisconsin
New York Times ^ | 6/24/2015 | Trip Gabriel

Posted on 06/30/2015 3:54:44 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

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To: conservativejoy

Spending excessive amounts on education has resulted in some of the worst results in the first world. Public education, IMHO, is child abuse. Break the unions, attack the system which produces your typical liberal indoctrination camps...I understand that, when stated your way, liberals can make a decrease in spending sound bad, “for the children” etc. (you do that very well, by the way), but I agree that the public education system must be starved before we can begin to return to an educational standard that actually produces students who can think logically.


61 posted on 07/01/2015 8:06:08 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

I am for focusing our education dollars by sending those dollars to the communities where spending and the curriculum is set locally. We must get the liberal propaganda and agenda out of the classroom. I would like to see the Dept. of Education abolished.

High standards for teachers and performance ratings for students must be set. I agree that teachers unions have been part of the problem. No more politically correct dumbing down. No more pushing students through who cannot read.


62 posted on 07/01/2015 8:14:58 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Do you feel more money per student is necessary for the education system you are envisioning?


63 posted on 07/01/2015 8:20:38 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: conservativejoy

——Walker’s campaign was cited for cheating when he ran for office at Marquette. He is still under investigation for illegally coordinating campaign funds during his last two elections.

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Ah, how about this whopper?


64 posted on 07/01/2015 8:23:49 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

cj must have gone fishing...trolling maybe?


65 posted on 07/01/2015 8:55:48 AM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush
Just like Hillry! No credibility, just mounds of donkey dung.
66 posted on 07/01/2015 10:08:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: gorush

I think what ever dollars are spent are best managed from the local level. That is one reason why the Dept. of Education needs to be abolished. When funds are allocated through the federal government, too much is wasted and those dollars always come with strings.


67 posted on 07/01/2015 12:08:51 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

That wasn’t really an answer to the question. Your statement that the governor wants less spending on education was obviously meant to be pejorative. Do you feel that the present spending is insufficient? Do you feel that more spending will result in a better education (in spite of all the evidence to the contrary)? Would your stated desire that all education be controlled at the local level require more money, less money or about the same? The national average cost per student is over 10 grand per student. A class of 30 would amount to almost $320,000 per classroom per year. Doesn’t that seem a tad ludicrous to you, especially looking at the dismal results we’re achieving?


68 posted on 07/01/2015 12:20:59 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

I think what ever dollars are spent are best managed from the local level. That is one reason why the Dept. of Education needs to be abolished. When funds are allocated through the federal government, too much is wasted and those dollars always come with strings.


69 posted on 07/01/2015 12:35:56 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

I was trying to get at your animosity toward Walker for proposing a cut in education spending, but I see that that is a waste of time. Spin away at someone else please.


70 posted on 07/01/2015 12:39:27 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Just mythoughts; gorush
Link to Politifact

In February 1988, as a sophomore, Walker entered a fiercely fought campaign for Marquette student government president, running on a 19-item resume that ended with Eagle Scout. The winner would not only preside over the government, but get a scholarship and expense money.

The race divided the campus and broke voter turnout records.

Taking on Walker and relishing it was John Quigley, a liberal student from Chicago interested in aggressively pressuring the school’s conservative administration to divest from investments in South Africa and address racial equality. Quigley opposed the higher drinking age.

Walker, a preacher’s son, was painted as an establishment incumbent tied to an increase in student fees. He urged cooperation with administrators and criticized sit-ins and protests. Walker highlighted his anti-abortion position. On campus issues, he pledged safer streets and bringing in cool bands like INXS and REM.

To Quigley, it seemed Walker and his organization were campaigning as if the prize was the presidency of the United States. Walker blamed Quiqley for making the race partisan.

Both sides tripped over campaign rules that limited spending and how and where candidates could distribute literature and place signs on campus. Each side lodged complaints against the other.

An election commission found Walker guilty of campaigning a week early. A Quigley worker campaigned too close to polls. An unregistered Walker worker dropped literature at students’ doors. Walker lost campaign privileges in one Marquette facility, and lost a day of campaigning as another penalty.

The day before the election, the student-produced Marquette Tribune endorsed Quigley. That surprised Quigley, who expected that his rabble-rousing style would be frowned on. The paper, though, also said Walker was qualified.

That day’s newspaper became a limited edition, students told the Quigley campaign. They’d seen Walker workers and/or College Republicans emptying editions of the Tribune from racks in high-traffic buildings, according to Quigley. Administrators soon got involved in the dustup.

"I heard by mid-day that people couldn’t find it," Quigley told us. Tribune officials also complained to administrators.

Stung by the endorsement, Walker’s camp plastered campus with an election-eve flier criticizing Quigley’s political tactics.

It was gentle stuff, but the Trib took offense, publishing an election-day editorial headlined, "Walker unfit." It decried his "mudslinging" and said another factor in its reversal on Walker being qualified was the alleged theft of papers, which Walker’s camp denied.

The next day’s vote wasn’t close; Quigley won 1,245 to 927.

71 posted on 07/01/2015 12:41:54 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Next you’ll be quoting Mother Jones and Salon.
http://mediatrackers.org/wisconsin/2011/12/19/unbiased-politifact-repeatedly-biased-against-conservative-groups


72 posted on 07/01/2015 12:46:14 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

I was stating the items holding up the budget deal. The conflict over education dollars, which the legislature eventually added back, was one of the issues.

I am simply raising issues of fiscal management and economic growth under Walker’s tenure. I think folks need to know what his policies are doing and decide whether they want to adopt something similar nationwide.

BTW, a storm kept me from answering earlier, then I had to run errands.


73 posted on 07/01/2015 12:48:37 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: gorush

It really doesn’t matter what source it is, Right Scoop, Red State, Forbes, Bloomberg. The statistics can come from reliable sources, but when denial sets in, there is no objectivity. When the facts can’t be refuted, smear the source.


74 posted on 07/01/2015 12:54:16 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Your “facts” have been refuted numerous times on this thread. Am I to disregard that?


75 posted on 07/01/2015 12:55:31 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush

Maybe you should go back and read the content of my posts more slowly. There has been no refutation of Wisconsin being 50th in new business startups and 40th in job creation. The article about the investigation and the prosecutor has not been addressed at all. The fact that Walker cheated in the Marquette election and was deemed “unfit” to serve by the Marquette Tribune has not been addressed.

I haven’t even touched on the current investigation into WEDC, the agency created and Chaired by Walker until he was removed from the position recently by the legislature.


76 posted on 07/01/2015 1:15:40 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

I rate your post false.

I posted the actual budget surplus from the preceding budge before. WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN LARGER IF WALKER HADN”T GIVEN US A TAX CUT. There really is no room to dispute that if you follow rules of accounting.

I am shocked, SHOCKED that his opponent for governor seized on the unconstrained budget forecast to say there was a structural deficit. No one disputes that as part of the budget exercise one can start with a structural deficit.

Republicans who govern like adults can use accepted forecasting techniques to manage governmental budgets. Walker did not deny there was a structural deficit.

Speaking with reporters on Friday, Walker said “our estimates show that, even if we were below the ten year average, we would still have more than enough revenue growth coming in the next two years of the state budget to more than make up for the projected structural.”

Walker says growth of just two-percent would be enough to cover any shortfall and additional expenses and points out that recent Department of Revenue figures show the state has continued to see steady growth. Walker says he anticipates that trend will continue into the next biennium.

Two percent, even in Obama’s economy that can be done.

Hey! How about Blue Illinois not being able to pay their employees??!?!

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/37136518/ns/us_news-life/t/illinois-deep-debt-doesnt-pay-bills/

http://wgnradio.com/2015/07/01/illinois-budget-madigans-extension-rauners-response-and-what-comes-next/


77 posted on 07/01/2015 7:20:54 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: conservativejoy; afraidfortherepublic

-—Wisconsin already spends well below the national average per pupil.

Ahh, the hallmark of a lefty, measuring success by dollars spent!!! Lets look at our RESULTS....

Wisconsin’s Class of 2014 posted scores good enough to maintain the state’s No. 2 national ranking on the ACT college readiness test.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/wisconsins-act-test-scores-keep-high-us-ranking-b99334099z1-271944231.html
http://www.news8000.com/news/wisconsins-high-school-graduation-rates-increasing/32881578

The class of 2014 had a statewide graduation rate of 88-percent. That’s based on new numbers from Wisconsin’s Department of Public Instruction.

The numbers show nearly a 3-percent increase from the 2009-10 school year.

And lets not forget that cuts to education under Act 10 were going to bring about educational holocaust but that didn’t happen.

——surrounded by neighboring states with even lower unemployment that are growing their economy and creating jobs

As for lagging our neighbors you are unintentionally hilarious here!!! Wooo hooo. that’s good when you listen to Chicago radio!!

Wisconsin is next to a failing blue state Illinois who’s unemployment rate is SIX POINT ZERO PERCENT.

http://ycharts.com/indicators/illinois_unemployment_rate
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and because they don’t have a governor who can attack structural budget costs THEY ARE NOW BROKE AND CAN”T PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES.

-—The state is facing at least a partial shutdown after lawmakers failed to pass a budget by a Tuesday-at-midnight deadline. While Illinois has long dealt with budget crises,

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/01/illinois-facing-partial-government-shutdown-amid-fiscal-crisis/

-——The immediate effect of a shutdown is in dispute. While Rauner said he would ensure that employees are paid and that services continue, Democratic Attorney General Lisa Madigan said paychecks are uncertain if no budget is in place by Wednesday.

http://www.governing.com/topics/politics/budget-stalemate-cripples-illinois-government.html

Who is the Mississipi (OR SHOULD I SAY GREECE?!?!?) of the North again?
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Wisconin borders Michigan who’s unemployment rate is FIVE POINT FIVE PERCENT. I won’t bad mouth Michigan, they are still recovering from Democratic rule, and who knows what their numbers would be if not for Detroit.

http://ycharts.com/indicators/michigan_unemployment_rate

I’ll grant that Iowa and Minnesota have very good employment, but you are just shallowly advancing lefty talking points when denying the stellar improvement that Walker has brought.


78 posted on 07/01/2015 7:51:47 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: gorush

Yep, paid propagandist.


79 posted on 07/01/2015 7:56:13 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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To: conservativejoy; trebb; sunrise_sunset; Just mythoughts; gorush

——If you feel like you’re working harder for less money, it’s not your imagination says The Capital Times.

Untrue according to Wisconsin DWD

Total private-sector wages increased by 5 percent in the fourth quarter of 2014 over the same quarter in
2013, including a 10.7 percent jump in construction wages during this time.

https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/dwd/newsreleases/2015/unemployment/150521_april_state.pdf

-—”All other neighboring states grew at a higher rate than Wisconsin.”

Except Illinois who’s unemployment rate is SIX POINT ZERO and is BROKE. Wonder how the middle class will do when state checks stop going out!

——families fell into the middle class .......All other states showed some decline but none as great as Wisconsin’s 5.7 percent figure.”

I smell non-statistically signficant differences in these metrics, else the lefty journalist would have specified them.

——Wisconsin incomes were well above the national average in 2000

Yes, Wisconsin lost a lot of ground under crooked Governor Doyle from 2000 to 2010 and Walker has made heroic efforts to turn the sinking ship around in the FIVE YEARS since that anti-business, ever increasing taxer left office.

-——Walker is right on the numbers that show Wisconsin did gain more jobs in his first three years as governor than Doyle did in his eight years.

But there’s an indirect element of blame in his claim. On that score, it’s worth noting Wisconsin consistently trailed the nation in job growth before the Great Recession triggered the second-term losses that dragged down Doyle’s tally——

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2014/jul/09/scott-walker/scott-walker-says-job-growth-better-under-jim-doyl/


80 posted on 07/01/2015 8:23:39 PM PDT by sgtyork (Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy)
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