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Greece votes No: The European Union is dying before our eyes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11720081/Greece-votes-No-The-European-Union-is-dying-before-our-eyes.html ^ | Nigel Farage

Posted on 07/06/2015 4:44:49 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: central_va
Europe is so wussified now one wwii panzer division could wipe out Greece in 4 minutes.

Yeah, I doubt Merkel will exercise that right.

21 posted on 07/06/2015 5:47:55 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Paulie
The EU breaking up will set the plans for the NWO back several years, won’t it?

I suspect the elites will ultimately agree to forgive whatever debts the Greeks want in exchange for that not happening.


22 posted on 07/06/2015 5:59:47 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: A CA Guy
"Too many takers and not enough makers."

That's the essence of Marxism and the obvious reason why it won't work.

Karl Marx himself recognized the reality that the only way to make his theories work would be to establish a world wide violent and oppressive oligarchy or dictatorship to force the productive people to support everyone else.

He was not smart and honest enough to acknowledge that the productive people would quickly become nonproductive and the entire scheme would collapse into the enslavement of everyone be the ruling oligarchy.

Many fools today still fall for Maex's Ponzi scheme. These fools are not smart and honest enough to recognize the fundamental flaws and violence inherent in Marxism, and they continue to insist on trying to make it work.

23 posted on 07/06/2015 6:01:18 AM PDT by Savage Beast ("Inside every 'Liberal' is a totalitarian screaming to get out!")
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To: oblomov
This is a fight between the Trotskyite and Stalinist wings of the communist party in power globally.

Yes, it is.

24 posted on 07/06/2015 6:01:52 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: Paladin2
"Greece is unlikely to be more prosperous without continued transfer payments to their govt from outside the country."

Au contraire. The only way for Greece to ultimately prosper is for all Greeks to each hitch up to pull the Greek wagon. Transfusions of money from others will only prolong their agony.

25 posted on 07/06/2015 6:09:16 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age did not end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Enlightened1
The EU flag, with the "roadkill crow" of the Holy Roman Empire superimposed on top. Both the HRE and the EU were marked by being ineffectual. The HRE took a thousand years of decline to fail. With modern technology, it has only taken the EU 25 years to accomplish failure.


26 posted on 07/06/2015 6:09:26 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Enlightened1

For a long time I’ve compared the EU to pre-Civil War US. It will be interesting to see how they handle this.


27 posted on 07/06/2015 6:21:21 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Enlightened1

And the American Union is being murdered right before our eyes.


28 posted on 07/06/2015 6:21:28 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Enlightened1

Next up: Spain, Italy, maybe Ireland?


29 posted on 07/06/2015 6:23:01 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( "Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Paulie

>>The EU breaking up will set the plans for the NWO back several years, won’t it?<<

Nope, it won’t. This talk of the European Union dying before our eyes is absolute nonsense.


30 posted on 07/06/2015 6:25:09 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

“Nope, it won’t. This talk of the European Union dying before our eyes is absolute nonsense.”

It does seem like an exaggeration.


31 posted on 07/06/2015 6:27:34 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: jimwatx
their products and services cheaper on the world market

I'm trying to think of an important Greek product that I buy. Hmmmmmm..... nope, not coming up with anything.

32 posted on 07/06/2015 6:40:40 AM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: Savage Beast

Something for Nothing. The oldest scam since the dawn of mankind, and people still fall for it even today.


33 posted on 07/06/2015 6:42:30 AM PDT by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Enlightened1
People are confusing the European Union (the EU) with the European Monetary Union (the EMU or Euro). There are nine countries that are members of the EU but have their own national currencies. Ans some small countries that are not in the EU use the Euro de facto as their currency.

There are many reasons for Greece to stay in the EU but exit from the Euro common currency. It is a mistake, IMHO, to extend the Euro to most of the Southern and Central European countries. But those countries do benefit from the free trade and labor mobility of the EU.

34 posted on 07/06/2015 6:46:42 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Paulie

Maybe?


35 posted on 07/06/2015 6:50:12 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: super7man

FAGE Greek Yogurt. I go through a liter/week.

However, the US plant is in New York state. I believe it is a subsidiary of the Greek manufacturer.


36 posted on 07/06/2015 6:59:31 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Enlightened1

Greece votes No: The European Union is dying before our eyes

And the way we are going we are next.


37 posted on 07/06/2015 7:07:15 AM PDT by JayAr36 (What happened to America? Move over Roman Empire we are coming.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

True that their only hope is to take advantage of increased autonomy over the long run. It would take a couple of generations to transform their culture. I dont see it happening, but wish it would.


38 posted on 07/06/2015 7:11:00 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: BeadCounter
Have ya ever heard of, “IN A STATE OF FEAR”?

The global elites (sounds so tin foily and stuff), but true there is a group of global elites that set the course and shape of economies, wars, monetary policy and such.

Terror attacks, Aids, WMD’s, financial meltdowns, Bird Flu, Ice age, global warming, climate change, hole in the ozone (remember that one?), Suitcase nukes, EMP attack, asteroid impact, machines taking over people, sea level rise, on and on and on.

These news headlines come and go, but notice something. They keep coming one after another with no breaks, no lulls. Keep the citizens in a constant state of anxiety or fear in an effort to keep them off balance. There are so many “causes” that divide attention. Divide folks along racial lines, social economic/class warfare, political parties, religious affiliations.

The globalist count on this division to mask (again sounds so conspiratorial) the drive toward a global governance.

Where do I get my information. Well, same place many of y'all, but one great source is the bible, G_d’s word.

Simply put...the masses are extremely exhausted and confused by this constant inundation of negative info designed to scare the hell into them.

prince of the power of the air. The father of lies, satan.

Now we see the emergence of what appears to be a false prophet, attempting to make nice nice with homosexuals, muzzies and dictators.

Just a side note. Have you ever wondered why congress talks a good game, tells folks what they want to hear...then vote to pass law/policy exact opposite of their rhetoric?

Ever notice the increasing secrecy in formulating American policy? Notice the increased sense of urgency regarding TARP/financial bailouts, the most recent trade negotiation debacle called TPA/TPP?

Ever wonder why congress would give so much power for trade negotiations to the absolute worse negotiators? Obozo admin.

Have ya ever pondered why whether republican or democrat...the borders remain wide open? Billions spent on the war on drugs yet not taking the very action that would advance the war probably more than any single action...tighten border security. Ever wonder if the whole war on drugs was a ruse and the billions are really being siphoned off into secret accounts around the world? I have.

Oh...so many questions, so lil time.

39 posted on 07/06/2015 7:17:49 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: super7man

The main thing that Greece “exports” is tourism. A devalued drachma would make Greece cheaper for European and American tourists, boasting Greek domestic income (at least in the short run). As long as it is tied to the Euro, Greece has no monetary lever to affect the terms of the tourist trade.


40 posted on 07/06/2015 7:29:29 AM PDT by riverdawg
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