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Is America ready to listen to the siren song of socialism? [Demographics: YES]
American Thinker ^ | July 7, 2015 | Rick Moran

Posted on 07/08/2015 4:22:34 AM PDT by expat_panama

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To: expat_panama
Trippi stated that the dems are saying that they can't risk nominating someone outside the comfort zone. The establishment 'pubs are saying the same thing. Meanwhile, the "comfort zone" of both political parties, who only represent themselves and their elitist sponsors, has pretty much destroyed the US.

People tried, last election, they rhey really did. An HOR and US Senate were elected with beyond-imagination majorities to turn things around. Instead, they just got worse. And on our side we're STILL fed up about McDaniels and on their side they know they're worse off after eight years of Obama.

My point? Maybe outliers are a majority. Maybe what the people really want is Sanders vs Trump....smoke out the phonies on both sides.

Could it happen? Well, the elite just keep getting crazier in their lust to keep control. I can't see where Trump vs Sanders would be anything but a vast improvement of what they're trying to force-feed us as candidates.

21 posted on 07/08/2015 5:12:23 AM PDT by grania
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To: SES1066

speaking of the ‘80’s…

From the founding of the United States through the 1920’s, the “private sector,” as it is now called, was the nation’s dominant element; the state and the principle of statism were alway encroaching; but always peripheral. The New Deal, including its progeny of wartime controls and its Fair Deal successor, ended that historical relationship. After the two Roosevelts, America was no longer an essentially capitalist country with a sprinkling of controls. Nor, was it a socialist country. It was and still is a modern “mixed economy,” with the philosophic base and the political future that this implies. In a mixed economy one of the two elements gradually withers away. That element is not the state.

1982 - Ominous Parallels; Piekoff

Very good post, SES1066.

(prayer)


22 posted on 07/08/2015 5:14:17 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: All

It has stolen on us unawares. Two wars necessitated vast curtailments of liberty, and we have grown, though grumblingly, accustomed to our chains. The increasing complexity and precariousness of our economic life have forced Government to take over many spheres of activity once left to choice or chance. Our intellectuals have surrendered first to the slave-philosophy of Hegel, then to Marx, finally to the linguistic analysts.

C.S. Lewis - “Willing Slaves of the Welfare State”


23 posted on 07/08/2015 5:18:33 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: expat_panama
Since the mid 1800's, America has always had a socialist stain contained within. Populism, unionism, even the Grange movement in the Midwest all had some hint of socialism or collectivism. Bernie Sander's appeal is nothing new, especially given the perceived (real?) inequities in the current economy. I see the danger now as global corporate statism. Fascism is just around the corner.
24 posted on 07/08/2015 5:20:34 AM PDT by buckalfa (I am feeling much better now.)
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To: expat_panama

You have a solid generation now with the majority being exposed to Marxist college professors and with a lack of religious faith.

Couple that with the current batch of government dolers and you have a recipe for disaster up ahead.


25 posted on 07/08/2015 5:28:27 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: expat_panama

Makes you wonder how effective Rush was at stating the Truth. He and the Catholic Church and the pastors of the Christian churches are such a major Force in culture/not -—as effective as the churches and “press” in Nazi Germany.

People have been lied to about “child development” for 80 years-—so that good people (Christians) would work hard (and get taxed by the state) and allow their children to be brainwashed, so they are incapable of ‘critical thinking’ skills.....because of the “operant conditioning” right into the socialist sodomite worldview. Christians growing up to have minds like a Marquis de Sade or a Justin Bieber who is so aroused by exhibiting his butt for all the sodomite’s delight. Great Weimar Culture!!! ... as heads are falling and boy harems are being formed and boys are groomed in Kindergarten by Jerry Brown-—forcing Pride in sodomy—a tribal, Satanic religion has been forced into the public schools. (Great separation of church and state LOL).

Children are trained to “feel” uncomfortable if they “think” outside the tight box learning the proper “feelings” with curricula written by sick, sodomites (CAIR) like Billy Ayers and that pederast John Maynard Keynes, as our country is flooded with criminals..

Good and Evil is flipped and Slavery is Freedom.

Fichte’s quote from 1810 has been applied since 1970 and now we have a couple generations of really dumb, immoral people. Virtue is learned and habituated (Aristotle) and we are SO busy, we allow artificial systems to snatch children from their Natural Family so they\ state is able to mold unnatural, artificial loyalties, so the ignorant children will be happy slaves of the state and not care if they put their parents into institutions or kill them (with dignity, of course).

Chesterton stated that the purpose of mandatory education was to destroy the Common Sense of the common people.

“Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished ... The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen.”


26 posted on 07/08/2015 5:43:08 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Biggirl
Regarding Trump's popularity....

Or maybe, just maybe the idea of a strong southern border hits a high note.

This.

27 posted on 07/08/2015 5:46:23 AM PDT by citizen (WalkeRubio RIGHT For You 2016)
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To: elcid1970
Nobody wants to risk being labeled a `racist sexist fascist bigot homophobe gun nut’.

Speak for your self, pal! lol

Once their arguments inevitably fail, liberals resort to insults and name calling.
Which then generally get echoed by their press lackeys.

28 posted on 07/08/2015 5:55:06 AM PDT by citizen (WalkeRubio RIGHT For You 2016)
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To: PGalt

PIIGS - Ireland is generally included.


29 posted on 07/08/2015 5:58:03 AM PDT by citizen (WalkeRubio RIGHT For You 2016)
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To: savagesusie
As a professor, I can tell you that my students have become much more cynical---though not much more marxist.

I'm always reminded of Lenin saying that if he had the kids for seven years he'd have them for life. Yet it was those kids who rebelled against communism in the 1970s and helped topple it in the 1980s and 1990s, despite 100% control in the schools and the official cultural organizations.

30 posted on 07/08/2015 6:25:13 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: citizen

“Nobody wants to risk being labeled a `racist sexist fascist bigot homophobe gun nut’.”

I forgot to add that I would claim that title proudly because as El Rushbo once said, the definition of a `racist sexist fascist bigot homophobe gun nut’ is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.

And since most liberals are morally bankrupt, their opinion means nothing. Unless of course one’s job may be affected.


31 posted on 07/08/2015 6:26:17 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

Yes, Rush is right!!
Liberal arguments generally are emotional, deviant and/or deceptive.


32 posted on 07/08/2015 6:48:23 AM PDT by citizen (It's not just the MSM anymore. Add in social media and it's the MSSM...https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: expat_panama

The country is inevitably headed towards Socialism. At least half of Millenials seem to think it’s a great idea (having born after the Cold War and not being aware of the dark side). Bad trade deals and falling wages have led too many to feel that Capitalism has “SCROOOOOOOOOOD” them. And Pope Francis is now adding the air of legitimacy to their views.

One enough of us bitter clingers die off this will be a Peoples Republic. You don’t think these big crowds are turning out for Sanders due to his good looks and sex appeal, do you? He is telling them what they want to hear.


33 posted on 07/08/2015 7:51:43 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: expat_panama
From Theodore Roosevelt's 1910 speech at the Sarbonne:
There is no more unhealthy being, no man less worthy of respect, than he who either really holds, or feigns to hold, an attitude of sneering disbelief toward all that is great and lofty, whether in achievement or in that noble effort which, even if it fails, comes to second achievement. A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life's realities - all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. They mark the men unfit to bear their part painfully in the stern strife of living, who seek, in the affection of contempt for the achievements of others, to hide from others and from themselves in their own weakness. The rôle is easy; there is none easier, save only the rôle of the man who sneers alike at both criticism and performance.

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.

As TR’s speech illustrates, attempting to actually make a difference - as opposed to “making a difference” in the argot of the journalist or other socialist, meaning nothing more than subverting the rewards which are due to the person who actually takes risks - is fraught with perils not only of failure but of being second-guessed whether you partially succeed or whether you fail utterly.
Socialists are part of the problem, not any part of the solution.

34 posted on 07/08/2015 7:59:04 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: expat_panama

If they Elect Hillary, I cry.

If the Elect Bernie, I laugh and buy a ticket to Costa Rica.


35 posted on 07/08/2015 8:00:01 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (They Live, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: LS

I had a paradigm shift with reading “The Closing of the American Mind”.

Without Virtue in children, Freedom is impossible. (Ancient Greeks/Founders). Christian worldview is being destroyed—and Good and Evil is being flipped—so that little children have no ability for critical thinking. They will have minds no better than the Afghani harem boys—just tribal minds where “feel good” ethics will rule their lives and create dysfunctional lifestyles that destroy any progeny. (Theodore Dalrymple).

Truth has a ring to it-—as Reality. Marxism is trying to force a utopia which is irrational and incompatible with Free Will (Christianity). One or the other has to go and with the forcing of the Satanic, Marxist, irrational idea of sodomite “marriage”-—this destruction of Objective Truth/God/Science, is a step toward forcing all children into insanity and immorality and artificial realities.

Without Virtue, which is habituated and learned in childhood and in the Natural Family environment, it is impossible to be Free (learn individualism/autonomy) and have a “civil” society. (Aristotle, Founders).

The Left is creating chaos and hate and fear of speaking against power (cultural insane norms) —so they can grab total control over the masses like Stalin. The people who resist conformity will be killed or re-educated-—(sensitivity training as they have in “schooling”) and we will be as free as the third children of Chinese mothers in China.


36 posted on 07/08/2015 8:08:38 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: expat_panama

I don’t see the weekly thread, so I’ll post this link here.
Microsoft cuts another 7,800 jobs, takes $7.6 million “impairment charge”
http://fortune.com/2015/07/08/microsoft-layoffs/


37 posted on 07/08/2015 8:26:52 AM PDT by citizen (It's not just the MSM anymore. Add in social media and it's the MSSM...https://twitter.com/kracker0)
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To: citizen
Rush is right!!

He was sure wrong about Obama being unelectable, and Hillary never running for Senate, or how to raise kids, or how the stock market works.

38 posted on 07/08/2015 9:14:03 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
He's still fighting the battle that was on 20 years ago (and that we lost, huge, btw).

Like the guy. But the idea that anyone can still listen to his very controlled and out of date message is mind boggling to me.

It's like reading "how to build a life raft" books as the flood water is already up to your knees.

39 posted on 07/08/2015 9:18:08 AM PDT by riri (Obama's Amerika--Not a fun place.)
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To: savagesusie

Except that all those kids brainwashed by Lenin eventually abandoned him, with or without virtue and all the Chinese kids are not buying communism (I have them in class). The notion that virtue has to be taught in schools is not right either. It can be, but usually is picked up elsewhere. Ronald Reagan is a classic example of that. He got ALL his faith and Christianity at home. Even had a marxist econ prof at Eureka.


40 posted on 07/08/2015 9:45:57 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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