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Islamic Battalions, Stocked With Chechens, Aid Ukraine In War With Rebels
NYT ^ | 7 July 2015 | Andrew Kramer

Posted on 07/08/2015 5:04:58 AM PDT by edpc

Edited on 07/14/2015 1:33:56 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

MARIUPOL, Ukraine — Wearing camouflage, with a bushy salt-and-pepper beard flowing over his chest and a bowie knife sheathed prominently in his belt, the man cut a fearsome figure in the nearly empty restaurant. Waiters hovered apprehensively near the kitchen, and try as he might, the man who calls himself “Muslim,” a former Chechen warlord, could not wave them over for more tea.

Even for Ukrainians hardened by more than a year of war here against Russian-backed separatists, the appearance of Islamic combatants, mostly Chechens, in towns near the front lines comes as something of a surprise — and for many of the Ukrainians, a welcome one.

“We like to fight the Russians,” said the Chechen, who refused to give his real name. “We always fight the Russians.”

He commands one of three volunteer Islamic battalions out of about 30 volunteer units in total fighting now in eastern Ukraine. The Islamic battalions are deployed to the hottest zones, which is why the Chechen was here.

Fighting is intensifying around Mariupol, a strategic seaport and industrial hub that the separatists have long coveted. Monitors for the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe say they have seen steady nighttime shipments of Russian military equipment on a rail line north of here.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
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1 posted on 07/08/2015 5:04:58 AM PDT by edpc
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To: edpc

They are fighting Mordor, I don’t care if they are from Chechnya.


2 posted on 07/08/2015 5:08:59 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Samogon

Yeah, well “Mordor” was on our side in WWII. Once the common enemy was defeated, things quickly fell apart. Such is the way of alliances with those that are not true allies.


3 posted on 07/08/2015 5:21:22 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: edpc

Be careful what you think is welcome. This enemy of your enemy is not anyone’s friend.
Camel’s nose under the tent.


4 posted on 07/08/2015 5:27:26 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Samogon
They are fighting Mordor, I don’t care if they are from Chechnya.

The Chechens need some replacements in Boston.

5 posted on 07/08/2015 6:06:33 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: edpc
and for many of the Ukrainians, a welcome one

Determined by careful polling and questioning of a broad swath of Ukrainians. /s

nyt = lies, disinformation and left-wing propaganda

6 posted on 07/08/2015 6:08:26 AM PDT by T Ruth (Mohammedanism shall be defeated.)
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To: edpc
The army, corrupt and underfunded, has been largely ineffective. So the Ukrainians welcome backing even from Islamic militants from Chechnya.
7 posted on 07/08/2015 6:24:45 AM PDT by McGruff (Eat a snickers...)
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To: edpc

The one group that has consistently beaten the Russians going back to 1980.

The Ukrainians will welcome them with open arms


8 posted on 07/08/2015 9:24:47 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

Russians have their own Chechens also fighting for them in Ukraine.


9 posted on 07/08/2015 9:48:30 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: Krosan

Indeed. The Vostok BN is largely comprised of Chechens. Fought at Donetsk, and elsewhere. Kadyrov promised to send more if needed. However, Chechens don’t play well with Russians and soon many fights broke out between Russians/Chechens. Many have been pulled back now.


10 posted on 07/08/2015 11:04:57 AM PDT by donozark (BIG GREEN EGG-Turning hot dogs into mini-weiners since 1974.)
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To: MadIsh32

They do so at their own risk. I can’t think of a time in history when Islam has said, “We were happy to be of assistance. Now, we’ll just be on our way.”


11 posted on 07/08/2015 11:12:53 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: Krosan; Samogon; McGruff

A little food for thought to those in the Chechen cheering section: They were in Iraq fighting against us and killing/raping children at Beslan.


12 posted on 07/08/2015 11:27:00 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: edpc

I can’t think of a time anyone has been “we were happy to be of assistance, now we’ll just be on our way”


13 posted on 07/08/2015 11:37:36 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: edpc

And beheading Russian Conscripts as well.


14 posted on 07/08/2015 11:57:06 AM PDT by donozark (BIG GREEN EGG-Turning hot dogs into mini-weiners since 1974.)
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To: MadIsh32

France, following the American Revolution. The U.S. after WWI.


15 posted on 07/08/2015 12:53:23 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: edpc

Trying to paint entire nation with single color is, saying politely, immature. Chechens killing orcs are good. Chechens killing Americans and kids are bad. Here, is it simple enough for you?
Besides, Beslan murders were laid squarely on orcs - look up The European Court of Human Rights case.


16 posted on 07/08/2015 1:03:29 PM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Samogon

So it was ok to just take the school hostage and rape the minors inside? Your idiotic reasoning and constant LOTR fantasy references are what’s immature.


17 posted on 07/08/2015 1:13:51 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: edpc

That French gov’t was overthrown and France a few years later attempted to pull our young nation into war with the British

Wilson got his League of Nations, just without the US ever sitting in its seat


18 posted on 07/08/2015 1:20:14 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

Doesn’t negate the fact occupying troops were not left behind in either case after the cessation of hostilities.


19 posted on 07/08/2015 1:37:38 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: edpc
So it was ok to just take the school hostage and rape the minors inside?

What? Work on your reading comprehension, Russian Neanderthal.

20 posted on 07/09/2015 7:12:14 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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