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Trump Fans, Itís Time for An Intervention
National Review ^ | July 11, 2015 | Jonah Goldberg's Weekly News Letter

Posted on 07/11/2015 1:59:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

There have been times in the past when I’ve gotten crosswise with certain segments of the conservative base and/or with the readership of National Review. And, because, like the Elephant Man, I am a not an animal but a human being, I have always had at least some self-doubt. That’s as it should be. People who share principles should not only hear each other out when they disagree; they should be able to see each other’s points and hold open the possibility that one’s opponents have the better argument.

This is not one of those times, at least not for me.

I truly, honestly, and with all my heart and mind think Donald Trump’s most ardent supporters are making a yuuuuuuge mistake. I think they are being conned and played. I feel like a guy whose brother is being taken advantage of by a grifter. I’m watching helplessly as the con artist congratulates him for taking out a third mortgage.

Anger Is Not an Argument

Now, before I go on, let me clarify a few things. I get it. The base of the party is angry. They’re angry about Obama’s lawless chicanery on immigration. They’re angry about the GOP’s patented inability to cross the street without stepping on its own d*ck and then having to apologize for it. They’re angry that the Left’s culture warriors are behaving like an invading army that shoots the survivors even after they’ve surrendered. They’re angry that Republicans have to bend over backward so as not to offend anyone, while Democrats have free rein (and at times free reign) to do and to say as they please.

Enter Trump, stage left. He makes no apologies. He’s brash. I can understand why some see him as a breath of fresh air. If you want to give him credit for starting a worthwhile debate about sanctuary cities and illegal immigration, fine. I think that argument is way overdone, but certainly reasonable enough.

Trump supporters need an intervention. I want to sit them down at the kitchen table, reach into a manila envelope, and pull out the proof that he’s a fraud.

Maybe you just like him. On that, we can respectfully disagree, as there is no accounting for taste. Perhaps you just like his musk and the way it assaults your nostrils, which is fitting, given his line of cologne. Fine.

I, on the other hand, find him tedious, tacky, and trite. He’s a bore who overcompensates for his insecurities by talking about how awesome he is, often in the third person. Jonah can’t stand that.

You see the next Teddy Roosevelt and all I see is someone who talks big and carries a small schtick.

’Sup Britches?

In words George Will shall never write, this is a good moment to talk about my pants. Earlier this week, Donald Trump attacked Charles Krauthammer and me. By the way, I don’t blame Trump one bit for his hostility. I’d hate me too, if I were him. Still I do marvel at how this supposed Master of the Universe can be unnerved by such criticism. If it takes so little effort for me to set up shop in his head, by all means, let’s give him thermonuclear weapons.

Anyway, when asked about me, he said:

I’m worth a fortune. . . . I went out, I made a fortune, a big fortune, a tremendous fortune . . . bigger than people even understand. . . . Then I get called [a failure] by a guy that can’t buy a pair of pants, I get called names?

As the intern said to Bill Clinton, this puts me in a weird position. I don’t like to brag, but I’m actually quite adept at buying pants. I don’t enjoy it. But I can do it. It never occurred to me to put it in my bio or anything — “Jonah Goldberg is a senior editor of National Review, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, and a successful pants-buyer” — but maybe I should.

Now, I will say that I sometimes choose not to wear pants, and not just because I’m so fond of my spaghetti-strainer codpiece (which affords me the satisfaction of telling really attractive women, “Hey, my eyes are up here. Thank you very much”). But these are my choices. If I want to identify as a pantless American, who are you to say otherwise?

More to the point, what I find so gaudy about Trump is his constant reference to the fact that he made a lot of money, and his expectation that it somehow makes him immune to criticism or means that he’s a better person than his GOP competitors, never mind yours truly.

The Trump-Pets Blare

Moreover, I find it horribly disappointing that his fans like this about him. If you met someone in real life who talked this way, you would think he’s a jerk. But somehow he’s awesome when he does it on TV?

The most troubling defense is this claptrap that he ‘tells it like it is.’ Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing.

His biggest fans disappoint in other ways as well. I marvel at how they can simultaneously despise Obama’s arrogance but revel in Trump’s. (I chuckle at all of the people who tell me he’s a heroic truth-teller for “telling it like it is” and “calling it as he sees it” but who at the same time fume at me when I tell it like it is about Trump and call it as I see it.)

But most grating of all are the people who sincerely think he should be the Republican nominee for President of the United States.

On this, I’m afraid we’re going to have to disrespectfully disagree. First of all, he’ll never be president of the United States. I won’t go into all of the reasons I think this, but a few off the top of my head: his enormous negatives, even among Republicans; the Midas’s hoard of oppo-research material that surely lurks beneath the surface; and his comments about women, which alone would turn the gender gap into a chasm. To borrow a line from Mark Steyn, a President Trump would have more ex-wives than the previous 44 presidents combined.

But my objection isn’t to the political analysis of Trump supporters. It’s their judgment of the man that stews the bowels.

The Purest RINO

​Which gets me back to the grifter thing.

I’ve written many times about how I hate the term RINO because conservatives should consider themselves Republicans in Name Only. The Republican Party is a vessel, a tool for achieving conservative ends. It’s nothing more than a team. Conservatism is different. It’s a body of ideas, beliefs, and temperaments. The amazing thing is that Trump is both a RINO and a CINO. I’m sure he has some authentic and sincere conservative views down in there somewhere. But the idea that he’s more plausibly conservative — or more loyally Republican — than Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Scott Walker, or any of the others is just flatly absurd. It is vastly more plausible that he is a stalking horse for his dear friend Hillary Clinton than he is a sincere conservative.

Trump supporters need an intervention. I want to sit them down at the kitchen table, reach into a manila envelope, and pull out the proof that he’s a fraud. The conversation would go something like this:

Immigration: You seem to think he’s an immigration hardliner, and he’s certainly pretending to be. But why can’t you see through it? He condemned Mitt Romney as an immigration hardliner in 2012 and favored comprehensive immigration reform. He told Bill O’Reilly he was in favor of a “path to citizenship” for 30 million illegal immigrants:

Trump: You have to give them a path. You have 20 million, 30 million, nobody knows what it is. It used to be 11 million. Now, today I hear it’s 11, but I don’t think it’s 11. I actually heard you probably have 30 million. You have to give them a path, and you have to make it possible for them to succeed. You have to do that.

Question: Just how many rapists and drug dealers did Donald Trump want to give green cards to?

Abortion: In 1999 he said, “I’m totally pro-choice. I hate it and I hate saying it. And I’m almost ashamed to say that I’m pro-choice but I am pro-choice because I think we have no choice.”

Man, it’s like he’s channeling Thomas Aquinas there.

Now he says he’s pro-life. But I’ll spare the mocking on this because at least he’s flip-flopping in the right direction, and I don’t like to second guess peoples’ professed religious convictions.

Obamacare: The man wrote in his own book and said elsewhere that he was in favor of Canadian-style socialized medicine — which would put him to the left of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, and on pretty much the same page as Bernie Sanders.

Hillary: Speaking of her, Trump praised Hillary Clinton and her health-care reform plan — in 2007! She attended his (most recent) wedding. He donated to her campaigns and to the Clinton Foundation. In 2008, he couldn’t get his head around the fact that Obama didn’t pick her for VP. “I’m a big fan of Hillary. She’s a terrific woman. She’s a friend of mine.”

Economics: People tout the guy’s business record. But he represents almost exactly what his supporters think he opposes. He’s a crony capitalist par excellence. He gives to whatever politician can grease the skids for his next deal — and he makes no apologies for it. He’s an eminent-domain voluptuary. He abuses bankruptcy laws like a stack of homemade get-out-of-jail-free cards.

Parlez vous Conservative?

The most troubling defense is this claptrap that he “tells it like it is.” Well, first of all, no he doesn’t. He tells it the way you want to hear it, which is an entirely different thing. He is like William Jennings Bryan, only his cross of gold has an all-you-can-eat buffet under it, and looks remarkably like a capital “T.”

He is like William Jennings Bryan, only his cross of gold has an all-you-can-eat buffet under it, and looks remarkably like a capital “T.”

“The people of Nebraska are for free silver, and I am for free silver,” Bryan announced. “I will look up the arguments later.” That is Trump’s approach. He’s saying what understandably angry people want to hear him say.

He reminds me a lot of Mitt Romney, at least in one respect. I always said that Romney “spoke conservatism as a second language” (a line some people ripped off, btw). That’s why Romney called himself a “severe conservative,” talked about how he “likes to fire people,” and anathematized the “47 percent.”

Trump is even less truly conservative, but he’s trying to speak in an even grubbier dialect of conservatism. And, having grown up in the tabloid politics of New York, he’s better at faking it.

Eventually, I suspect, this will be the cause of his undoing. He doesn’t know what he doesn’t know about conservatism, and at some point he will say something that even his biggest fans will recognize as a damning revelation about the real man beneath the schtick. The only question is whether he implodes before or after he does permanent damage to the GOP’s chances in 2016.

The Conservative Heart

Look, these are rough times for conservatives, for reasons too lengthy, and all too familiar, to go into here. But none of our problems — demographic, political, cultural — can be solved unless conservatives take the cause of persuasion to heart. All of our problems can be fixed by convincing people to join our cause. That is what politics is about — persuading people that their interests and concerns are better addressed by coming to our side. And, given the degraded nature of our culture, I won’t deny that having a celebrity on our side has its utility. But it’s only helpful if that celebrity convinces people to switch sides. As a purely mathematical proposition, it is insane to believe that Donald Trump will convert more voters than he will repel.

For those who are interested in persuasion, I heartily recommend Arthur Brooks’s new book, The Conservative Heart (full disclosure: He’s my boss at AEI and a friend). I’ll be writing more about it in the future because I think it’s an important book. But I will say for now that it is almost a mirror image of Trump’s approach. It’s thoughtful, humble, fact- and data-driven, and informed by a deep moral case for conservatism. It won’t satisfy your desire to scream at the opposition, but it will equip you to explain to the opposition why they are wrong............


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To: cripplecreek

Quite true.


41 posted on 07/11/2015 2:54:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“What is Trump’s motivation?”

His friends the Clintons probably have the answer on that one.


42 posted on 07/11/2015 2:55:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.ct)
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To: Bushbacker1

What about the rest?

You pull quoted the humor that he wrote, now comment on the ideology of Trump that he’s outlined.


43 posted on 07/11/2015 2:56:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Organic Panic

Damn straight!


44 posted on 07/11/2015 2:56:25 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s patootie about the Republican field. At best there are only two conservatives who are under the Republican banner who I’d ever vote for.

I’m not elevating him by standing ringside. I enjoy seeing the frustration of Democrats whose former tactics of threats, intimidation, race/ethnic baiting, et al aren’t working. I also enjoy see RINOs on this side being forced to provide some specificity in their erstwhile positions on “immigration reform” as they so like to obfuscate the illegal problem.

The thing you need to realize is that if it wasn’t Trump or Black Hating Confederate Battle Flags, or whatever, it would be something else. And they’ll pour all their resources into it just like they always have.

It’s pointless to keep up this ‘concern’ thing about Republicans because in the final analysis, the only real ‘concern’ meme Democrats will accept is the one that says “Republicans don’t deserve to exist”. That’s their way, that’s their goal


45 posted on 07/11/2015 2:57:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He’s this year’s populist clown candidate, full of bluster but absolutely empty of plans. If he was serious about politics and making a change, he should have run for mayor of New York - he started to, in fact, but washed out early on.


46 posted on 07/11/2015 2:58:19 AM PDT by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Earlier this week, Donald Trump attacked Charles Krauthammer and me. By the way, I don’t blame Trump one bit for his hostility. I’d hate me too, if I were him.

I didn't see the Goldberg-Krauthammer commentary on (I think it was) Monday, but I did see FNS with Will and Krauthammer.

Buncha Perrier conservatives. I was ashamed, the way they talked about him.

No Wonder he lashed out. I would have lashed out too, particularly at that pompous buffoon in the wheelchair.

47 posted on 07/11/2015 2:59:24 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: nathanbedford
Conservatives and disillusioned Americans are not flocking to Donald Trump because he will cure what is wrong with the Democrats' governance, they are desperate to find someone as an antidote to elitist, statist one-party rule waxing more intrusive than tyrannical every day. The Republican Party in Washington was given Congress to stop Obama care and, as one FReeper has already observed, gave us Obama trade instead.

The wreckage of the Republican Party is not the work of Donald Trump, it is the work of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, George Bush and Karl Rove and many others who are considerably wealthier today than when they started.

Jonah Goldberg, where were you when we were being sold out?

Amen!

48 posted on 07/11/2015 2:59:46 AM PDT by stig
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s fortuitous that his remarks about illegals was followed by that senseless shooting of that poor woman in SF, much, much more attention needs to be paid to the fact that our complete absence of border controls leads to criminals basically roaming free. I mean, Rs and Ds are blameworthy for this, and people, esp. people who are victims and families of victims, hate it.

But aside from that, I don’t get the Trump-mania. And his past support of Hillary is damning.

But, I’m with you CW, I think Scott Walker is that once in a lifetime pol who will over come all of this BS and lead us to a better tomorrow.

Or, should he stumble, maybe our old fave from last time, Rick Perry will rise to the challenge.

I heard something from him the other day and he sounded GOOD.


49 posted on 07/11/2015 3:00:29 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who’s going to fight for the base who put them in office last year? McConnell, Boehner and the chicken $hit senators who are afraid of their own shadows and allows obama the media to crap all over them and not give them fair coverage? Been there, done that. The country is lost anyway. Might as well go for broke at this point.


50 posted on 07/11/2015 3:00:48 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Ray76

“So much bs.”

Yeah? You think someone like Trump has a shot to take it all? Not gonna happen. When he’s done with the self-promotion, he’ll be exiting the stage.


51 posted on 07/11/2015 3:01:01 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Liberalism is the poison ivy that infests the garden of society.ct)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Indeed.


52 posted on 07/11/2015 3:01:09 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Red Steel; Gaffer

Goldberg’s problem is he takes Trump far too literally. One example is when Trump goes on bragging about his wealth.... Its a running joke. Plus a reminder to voters of his awesome success outside politics. In the business world.

Contrast Trump with John Boehner who is what I call a successful politician holding high and powerful office in Washington. This successful Republican does nothing but sellout and screw the Republican base. He prompts awful trade deals and never mentions illegal immigration except to repeat retarded lines like “pathway to citizenship”. I am sick of and despise such successes. Marco Rubio is no better. Neither are Jeb and Rick Perry. All these guys are political successes!!!

So I’ll take Donald Trump the bragart billionaire over them any day!


53 posted on 07/11/2015 3:01:32 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Goldberg’s problem is he takes Trump far too literally. One example is when Trump goes on bragging about his wealth.... Its a running joke. Plus a reminder to voters of his awesome success outside politics. In the business world.

Like the running Limbaugh penchant to brag about his own awesomeness.

54 posted on 07/11/2015 3:02:56 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: ScottinVA

Yeah.

> sliding more toward socialism

More like being dragged.

> a billionaire simply isn’t going to be elected President

DNC BS. You got a problem with wealth? Go back to DU.


55 posted on 07/11/2015 3:02:56 AM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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To: jersey117
....Might as well go for broke at this point.

Vetting and sanity flies out the window because Trump pulls a squirrel?

Note: no one is talking about his positions or his skeletons, no one is asking why he hasn't filed his financial disclosure, but he's getting tons of press.

56 posted on 07/11/2015 3:05:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The GOP is paying the price for not listening to its base. Let the chips fall where they may. I am enjoying watching the RINOs (Goldberg include) squirm.


57 posted on 07/11/2015 3:05:32 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’ve read the whole article now.

Trump is not a danger to Conservatism. Those of us who are, see what he is.

I am enjoying his afflicting the comfortable. But I won’t vote for him.


58 posted on 07/11/2015 3:06:00 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m glad to see the immigration issue getting the attention it deserves Trump is still very liberal and untrustworthy.


59 posted on 07/11/2015 3:06:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: jocon307
But aside from that, I don’t get the Trump-mania. And his past support of Hillary is damning.

Sorry but you have zero understanding of politics. You need to read between the lines. For business reasons Trump has been donating to both parties. Having good relations with Bill and Hillary is useful in the business world. Same as donating to Harry Reid when you own a casino in Las Vegas. When Trump runs against Hillary in 2016 you will find out how much he really likes what she and Bill stand for.

60 posted on 07/11/2015 3:07:55 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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