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Ted Cruz’s crowd-pleasing RedState red meat
Atlanta Journal ^ | August 8, 2015 | Greg Bluestein

Posted on 08/08/2015 12:00:04 PM PDT by Isara

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To: DannyTN
You sound a lot like Bernie Sanders.

Have you considered maybe the Sanders campaign might suit you better? At least Bernie has a long track record of his protectionist positions and isn't "evolving".

Trump has stated that he has never supported socialized medicine.

He did? He supported Canadian style single payer health care in his book. During the debate he also said it works great in Canada and incredibly well in Scotland (which it most certainly does not). I think what Trump said is he doesn't support single payer socialized health care NOW. Like so many of his other liberal positions, he's "evolving" - you know, kinda like Obama on gay marriage and so many other issues.

Trump is a fraud. A political con man. But to be fair, at least you are open about supporting him for his leftist protectionist policies.

21 posted on 08/08/2015 1:26:51 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: brothers4thID

You were responding to an avowed protectionist. Of course he thinks the EX/IM bank is great. For populist protectionists, conservatism takes a back seat to leftist pro union trade policies.


22 posted on 08/08/2015 1:29:36 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
donald-trump-hates-obamacare-so-i-asked-him-how-hed-replace-it

I think when Trump uses the term Universal care, he means we need everyone covered. Affordable plans that most people can afford and a different system for those that can't afford care.

As far as single payer, there may be ways to do that and still keep providers and insurance companies private and competitive. Any time you concentrate the paying power, there is a chance of government abuse.

I owned a health care firm and it was a relief to see the patient was a Medicare or Medicaid patient and not some private insurance company that I didn't know when or if we would get paid. Or what sort of special hoops I'd have to go through in billing.

Bottom line is you've got government healthcare now, and Trump is probably your best bet at getting it repealed. Congress doesn't seem to show much interest in it, so you're going to have to have a cheer leader or a bully pulpit to motivate them.

23 posted on 08/08/2015 1:35:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Longbow1969
donald-trump-hates-obamacare-so-i-asked-him-how-hed-replace-it

I think when Trump uses the term Universal care, he means we need everyone covered. Affordable plans that most people can afford and a different system for those that can't afford care.

As far as single payer, there may be ways to do that and still keep providers and insurance companies private and competitive. Any time you concentrate the paying power, there is a chance of government abuse.

I owned a health care firm and it was a relief to see the patient was a Medicare or Medicaid patient and not some private insurance company that I didn't know when or if we would get paid. Or what sort of special hoops I'd have to go through in billing.

Bottom line is you've got government healthcare now, and Trump is probably your best bet at getting it repealed. Congress doesn't seem to show much interest in it, so you're going to have to have a cheer leader or a bully pulpit to motivate them.

24 posted on 08/08/2015 1:35:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
I owned a health care firm and it was a relief to see the patient was a Medicare or Medicaid patient and not some private insurance company that I didn't know when or if we would get paid. Or what sort of special hoops I'd have to go through in billing.

I appreciate your particular experience, but all the doctors I know feel pretty much the opposite. They are increasingly looking to drop Medicare or Medicaid because the reimbursement is't enough to make it worth their while. In fact, we recently had to move a friend of the family who is getting old because we couldn't find many doctors in her area who would even take the gov't health plans. Ended up taking her to NYC where at least there were more options for people in her situation.

25 posted on 08/08/2015 1:40:32 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Free trade became morally bankrupt when trade status was separated from MFN status and rolled into global open trade treaties.
In the 80s (when our economy turned around under Reagan, and we were the worlds biggest creditor nation, rather than the biggest debtor nation, nations had to earn their way into MFN status.
They had to act right. At a minimum they couldn’t be working against us on the world stage, and still get access to our markets.

Now they get it by treaty and can utterly abuse workers to the point of near slavery. The Thai and Malaysian fishing fleet has actual slaves. Vietnamese and Chinese factories are horrendous. And we have no tool whatsoever to modify that behavior.

Call it free trade, but when exploiting corrupt foreign governments to abuse people, is no better than the British in India, or Slavery based cotton. If the Nazis actually ran factories at Auschwitz, the free traders would have no problem and we would hear high talk about how it would moderate the Nazis policies. I know this by looking at North Korea and the SE Asian fishing industry today.

Not to mention the wonderful quality fish we are getting from China. Its disgusting if you look into it.

Free trade is only moral if the nations trading have at least a basic set of shared values. Otherwise, its not far removed from slavery or government enforced near slavery.


26 posted on 08/08/2015 1:42:30 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Longbow1969; brothers4thID

Protectionism is not pro-union. But policies that help American industry, will probably help unions as well.

Besides I understand most unions have gone global and are no longer interested in protecting American jobs.

But the logical extreme of your position is to off-shore all American jobs and really teach those unions a lesson.


27 posted on 08/08/2015 1:44:42 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Longbow1969

Yeah, the doctor reimbursements are low. And hospitals are starting to get hammered as well. But that’s a government plan setting those reimbursement rates, not private plans.

And I only brought them up from a single payer standpoint, that it was nice to know we were going to know we were going to get paid and paid quickly without a lot of hassle. There has to be a way to accomplish the best of both worlds.


28 posted on 08/08/2015 1:48:18 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
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29 posted on 08/08/2015 1:53:12 PM PDT by Isara
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To: Isara

30 posted on 08/08/2015 1:53:44 PM PDT by Isara
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To: DannyTN
The price of cheap imports doesn't reflect the cost of supporting unemployed Americans.

By now, most of the unemployed Americans who aren't on disability aren't getting either support or even being counted because they aren't getting benefits, either.

31 posted on 08/08/2015 1:54:04 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

They aren’t getting unemployment any longer, but they are still getting a variety of benefits....food stamps, medicaid, obama phones, etc


32 posted on 08/08/2015 1:57:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
Cruz helped kill the Export Bank and there goes even more jobs.

Wow. It's times like this I wonder why I even stay around on Free Republic.

Do you not know what the Ex-Im Bank is?

33 posted on 08/08/2015 1:59:17 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: brothers4thID

Right on, your #17.


34 posted on 08/08/2015 1:59:45 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: DannyTN

I think you have the unemployed confused with the Welfare people. Around these parts, if the father is in the home, forget welfare—most wouldn’t sign up for it anyway, but those I know who tried were forced to leave their families for the wife and kids to get benefits, and that usually resulted in the dissolution of the marriage. Since these people are overwhelmingly Caucasian in this area, they don’t get the bennies the inner city people get. They find enough odd jobs for cash to get by and live humbly.


35 posted on 08/08/2015 2:01:35 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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I think when Trump uses the term Universal care, he means we need everyone covered.

Un-freaking-believable that I would read this communist drivel on FR, delivered as if it is the Gospel.

36 posted on 08/08/2015 2:02:23 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: DannyTN

Joke post?


37 posted on 08/08/2015 2:12:10 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Longbow1969
I didn't get past Sander's self proclamation as a Socialist.

Our founding fathers were protectionists. They viewed tariffs as a tax on foriegners wanting to sell into our markets. And they viewed tariffs as maximizing freedom because it allowed them to fund the government without taxing American citizens.

Founding Father's Original Tax Plan

Trump wants to cut corporate and individual taxes. He will do that by increasing jobs and imposing import tariffs where the trade is not balanced.

If your candidate is talking about lowering taxes, you better ask him how he will do that and not run up the national debt.

38 posted on 08/08/2015 2:22:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: SmokingJoe

No, not joking at all. Trump is the only candidate that understands what our economy needs. Cruz is great in other aspects, but fails miserably when it comes to the economy.


39 posted on 08/08/2015 2:23:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Isara

I could care less what people say at this RINO hoe-down


40 posted on 08/08/2015 2:25:57 PM PDT by MichelleWSC3
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