Obama can do Iran nuclear deal even if Congress disapproves

AP ^ | Aug. 16, 2015 | DEB RIECHMANN

[PROCON]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The September vote on the Iran nuclear deal is billed as a titanic standoff between President Barack Obama and Congress. Yet even if lawmakers reject the agreement, it's not game-over for the White House.

A congressional vote of disapproval would not prevent Obama from acting on his own to start putting the accord in place. While he probably would take some heavy criticism, this course would let him add the foreign policy breakthrough to his second-term list of accomplishments.

[PROCON]

While he probably would take some heavy criticism...

From who?

You, AP?

Will ABCNBCCBSCNNMSLSDNYTLATETCETC criticize him?

Bullcrap, you and your ilk love his radical, godless anti-American agenda.

[Cicero]

Second term list of accomplishments?

Breaking the law and trashing the constitution is a liberal’s dream.

[Little Ray]

And, assuming he has a pair, the next president can start disassembling this “agreement” the day he takes office.

[relictele]

his second-term list of accomplishments.

[cripplecreek]

Medellín v. Texas, 552 U.S. 491 (2008), is a United States Supreme Court decision that held that even if an international treaty may constitute an international commitment, it is not binding domestic law unless Congress has enacted statutes implementing it or unless the treaty itself is "self-executing." Also, the Court held that decisions of the International Court of Justice are not binding domestic law and that, without authority from the United States Congress or the Constitution, the President of the United States lacks the power to enforce international treaties or decisions of the International Court of Justice.

Michigan passed the Iran economic sanctions act in 2013 imposing sanctions on Iran based on this precedent. Thank former Texas Solicitor General Ted Cruz for that one.

[Starboard]

You can be sure this propaganda was fed to AP from the White Hut.

[SandRat]

“O can stick Iran’s first NUC device up his posterior.

[Starboard]

Its never game-over for the White House. It does what it wants and congress allows it. The media applauds it.

[Dilbert San Diego]

That’s what I’ve always wanted to know about this.

This “agreement” or “arrangement” is not an official treaty.

They did some half baked congressional vote at the behest of Obama, so that this is not an official treaty, which would require a 2/3 vote in the Senate to be legally binding.

But since whatever comes about will not be legally binding, the next Republican president can simply rescind this on Jan. 20, 2017, right????

[PROCON]

That’s why we need to get the communist out of the white house and elect a real conservative, constitution loving American.

[arthurus]

Sultan Hussein does not need Congressional approval for any damned thing at all. Congress has rendered itself an Advisory Council, no more. The Court is his Enforcement Arm.

[Steely Tom]

No one has standing to resist Obama.

[Theoria]

The GOP aren't reigning in the Pres because they want the power if they ever take the office.

The only Constitutional power a Pres can do concerning foreign affairs is enter into a Treaty, all this agreement $hit as outside the bounds of the Constitution.

[arthurus]

I does not matter how official it is or is not. A few understand now, this President IS ruling by Decree. There is no Republic except in the structure that is still on paper. For the time being the USA is an Elective Dictatorship. For the time being.

[Sacajaweau]

Not as easy as you think. Countries are lining up for trade agreements.....many are done deals already.

And once Obama releases the billions held because they ARE ....cough cough....WERE.. a terrorist state, they're not going to give it back.

[Little Ray]

Given that a ‘Pubbie Congress gave Obama what he wanted, I doubt that any Establishment ‘Pubbie will reverse this. That is why I specified “with a pair.” After all, the vast majority of DC ‘Pubbies long ago had their spines and gonads removed.

[chris37]

Then impeach him and remove him from office, otherwise you are complicit in his tyranny house and senate.

[quantumman]

Boehner has taken this off the table. I think Trump should address the issue of impeachment and/or prosecution of Zippy after he leaves office. They were going to send Nixon to jail.

[2banana]

[The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution

[blackdog]

So Iran negotiated 1/3 of a deal. They know how our government works better than Obama and Kerry combined. We have three co-equal branches of government. I know that concept befuddles Mooselimbs, but the Iranian ones know it.

A forced deal isn't worth squat. It's like going to buy a car at a Chrysler dealer with a check requiring three signatures and the other two didn't come with you. The check is no good.