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To: WilliamIII

Free K-12 schooling for children of all illegals via a Supreme Court decision: Check Plyler v. Doe.
Birthright citizenship- via another Supreme Court decision.
Free emergency medical services- another Supreme Court decision
No school or college may ask for papers, banks open accounts for illegals. No proof of citizenship to purchase vehicles. Illegals in many states like Washington, California and Oregon are entitled to have driver’s licenses.

Trump needs to show specifically how he plans to reverse all this. Simply saying he will command the tides to recede won’t do. That’s stuff for the illiterati. We need to know how?


13 posted on 08/16/2015 10:01:00 AM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
Trump needs to show specifically how

Not really. The Supreme Court has shown us abundantly that it goes with the cultural flow. He just needs to make a big, scary wave, and they will follow. If they don't, and if he's President, he will probably ignore them. Which would be legally appropriate, actually.

16 posted on 08/16/2015 10:05:13 AM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Steelfish

So you’re against Trump so much, that you oppose the most sensible policy goals on immigration that any candidate has offered? Wow, THATs real hatred!


22 posted on 08/16/2015 10:09:19 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Steelfish

Only Trump has said the words deport them all or even just the word deport.

The other politicians haven’t even said the word deport because they are all owned by big donors and lobbyists

ditto for talk against China, Mexico,Saudi Arabia etc.


30 posted on 08/16/2015 10:13:48 AM PDT by Democrat_media (obamatrade = an increase in millions more 3rd world socialist immigrants to USA)
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To: Steelfish
Trump needs to show specifically how he plans to reverse all this. Simply saying he will command the tides to recede won’t do. That’s stuff for the illiterati. We need to know how?

I am not a fan of Trump for all manner of reasons, but this is a pretty specific plan he has released - and many of the components don't hinge on those court decisions you have outlined.

A big first step is keeping illegals from pouring in and he addresses this. Another huge step is deporting the illegals here and he speaks to that as well. Just a commitment to shutting down the border and deporting those here illegally will go a long way to reducing birthright citizenship, the drain on our medical services, the costs of educating non citizens, etc.

I criticize Trump all the time, but what other candidates are this bold and specific on the issue of immigration? Also, he even talks about how Mexico will pay the costs of the border wall. Something many of us, including myself, have chided him for not explaining how he would accomplish it. Well, he speaks of increasing fees on border crossing and Visa's among other things, so he is not relying on tariffs that are unlikely to make it through Congress.

I still support Cruz and think, in the end, he is far more conservative and electable than Trump, but this immigration plan is......well, fantastic. It's not just that I agree with it, it's that he isn't afraid to effectively say "yes, deport all illegals". Politicians have been afraid to say that for generations, and here is a guy willing to say it. Even if you don't like Trump, his willingness to touch this immigration 3rd rail might encourage other GOP candidates to do the same.

51 posted on 08/16/2015 10:26:32 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Steelfish

Do what the putz in the white hut is doing now... ignore the courts and make them stop him. It is time for that. It is also time for legal voters to support this. It is probably the last time.


86 posted on 08/16/2015 11:08:22 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Steelfish

Agreed. It would better to support someone who doesn’t take a strong position on immigration, rather than support someone who does, but doesn’t present 100% of the details in the first position paper they publish on it.

The stupid....it hurts!


98 posted on 08/16/2015 11:32:13 AM PDT by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Steelfish

He can do the same as Obama. Issue Executive orders and let the court intervene four years later after the immigration issues have been resolved. If they rule otherwise just modify the executive order and let the process start over again.


103 posted on 08/16/2015 11:44:35 AM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!!)
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