"and subject to the jurisdiction thereof..."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv ^

[Tennessee Nana]

Mark has a good chapter in Plunder and Deceit on immigration where he explains all this...

He gets it...

in fact he said Napolitano was wrong today ...

[DB]

You provide a list of exceptions to jurisdiction.

But you believe people who enter the country illegally without any legal authorization, are protected by said jurisdiction.

Why is that?

[InterceptPoint]

They can’t be arrested and tried?
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A better question: Do they pay US income taxes or state taxes?

NO THEY DONT.

[DiogenesLamp]

See post 18. Enemy combatants are not under jurisdiction. One of several categories.

If you are going to deliberately misinterpret the meaning of the word "Jurisdiction" to apply it to illegal aliens, then I am going to deliberately misinterpret the word "Combatant" to apply it to illegal aliens.

I have argued this topic for seven years, and I have a mountain of statements from people in the past to throw at you, but I am not in the mood to look up all that crap.

I'll toss you this one though.

From the primary author of the 14th amendment, John Bingham.

Who are natural-born citizens but those born within the Republic? Those born within the Republic, whether black or white, are citizens by birth — natural born citizens. There is no such word as white in your constitution. Citizenship, therefore does not depend upon complexion any more than it depends upon the rights of election or of office. All from other lands, who by the terms of your laws and compliance with their provisions become naturalized, and are adopted citizens of the United States; all other persons born within the Republic, of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty, are natural born citizens.

[Electric Graffiti]

I’m listening to him right now and he’s spot on. Taking it to that idiot Judge Nappy head. If Mark keeps this up, I may have to buy his book ;)

[Ajnin]

If this is was the case then you would lose your citizenship ever time you left the United States for a foreign country.

[Liz]

Amending the Constitution to remove birthright citizenship is no big deal.....

Congress passed the 26th Amendment in March 1971 (to lower the voting age).

It was promptly ratified by the states in a matter of months ..... President Richard M. Nixon signed it into law in July 1971.

[DiogenesLamp]

The Constitution is clear. We need to change the Constitution to fix this, not make up crap like liberals.

No, we need to reject nonsensical crap that was made up by Liberals in the past.

When they deliberately interpret it WRONG, we ought not have to re-write it to fix the problem. For decades they deliberately interpreted the Second Amendment WRONG, and now we've managed to clarify the correct meaning of it.

We need to clarify the correct meaning rather than to buy into the Liberal game of changing the rules, then moving the goal posts so we can't change them back.

Just because Liberal courts are now saying marriage is "gay" do you agree with them?

[eyeamok]

only if the parents are under the jurisdiction thereof, in other words if they are NOT under the Jurisdiction of the United States they cannot be charged with treason against the United States, ALL Legal Immigrants and US Citizens can be Charged with Treason, they are Under the Jurisdiction thereof.

I got this from a Constitutional Scholar at USC, Many years ago

[umgud]

I guess everybody who graces our borders IS subject to the jurisdiction of..........

[eyeamok]

You are correct, If you Cannot be charged with TREASON Against the United States, you are NOT Under the Jurisdiction thereof!!!

[eyeamok]

USC Law School!

[DoughtyOne]

That’s not the point.

The point is, they are not our citizens.

They are under the jurisdiction of their nation of origin.

Try arresting one of them for murder and watch how many seconds before the Mexican embassy has someone interceding on the perp’s behalf.

[Tennessee Nana]

Exactly a president has to sign an Amendment into law..

if the birthright fiasco needs an Constitutional; Amendment it will have to wait till Jan 20, 2017 when Pres Cruz or Trump is sworn in...

[DiogenesLamp]

You are correct, If you Cannot be charged with TREASON Against the United States, you are NOT Under the Jurisdiction thereof!!!

One would think this would simply be a matter of common sense. What national interest is served in granting citizenship to people who sneak in here illegally?

What on earth is in it for the betterment of the United States?

[BenLurkin]

Illegal parents can not be charged with treason — child born here can.

Once he or she gets old enough to commit treason.

[Anitius Severinus Boethius]

They did. The case was Medellin vs. Texas. Ted Cruz argued in front of the Supreme Court that the State of Texas had jurisdiction. Texas won. They executed him.

[eyeamok]

Only because of the deliberate misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment by the Law Givers, NOT THE USSC, They have only ruled on LEGAL IMMIGRANT CASES regarding the 14th amendment.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

They can’t be conscripted into military service either.

[Liz]

What national interest is served in granting citizenship to people who sneak in here illegally? What is in it for the betterment of the United States? If you Cannot be charged with TREASON Against the United States, you are NOT Under the Jurisdiction thereof......

Illegals are invaders....armies of barbarians and brigands lusting after the riches of our country----which they have been taught is land stolen from them. They await their orders from the Third World to overthrow the US govt.