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At West Point, Annual Pillow Fight Becomes Weaponized [turns into brawl]
The New York Times ^ | September 4, 2015 | DAVE PHILIPPS

Posted on 09/05/2015 4:32:32 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

For generations, freshmen cadets at the United States Military Academy have marked the end of a grueling summer of training with a huge nighttime pillow fight that is billed as a harmless way to blow off steam and build class spirit.

But this year the fight on the West Point, N.Y., campus turned bloody as some cadets swung pillowcases packed with hard objects, thought to be helmets, that split lips, broke at least one bone, dislocated shoulders and knocked cadets unconscious. The brawl at the publicly funded academy, where many of the Army’s top leaders are trained, left 30 cadets injured, including 24 with concussions, according to West Point.

In interviews, cadets who asked that their names not be used for fear of repercussions in West Point’s strictly controlled culture, said the fight had left one cadet with a broken leg and dislocated shoulders in others. One cadet was knocked unconscious and taken away in an ambulance and had not returned to school, they said. But a spokesman for the academy, Lt. Col. Christopher Kasker, said all cadets had returned to duty.

Though talk about the brawl on Aug. 20 had circulated on social media, West Point did not confirm it to The New York Times until Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: military; pillow; pillowfight; pillows; usarmy; usma; westpoint
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The Army of the future.
1 posted on 09/05/2015 4:32:33 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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To: Timber Rattler

Cadets just looking for work around to current ROE. I find it encouraging. ;>)


2 posted on 09/05/2015 4:35:48 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Timber Rattler

If we can just get them to use that level of aggression on the enemy, we’ll be fine.

CC


3 posted on 09/05/2015 4:36:09 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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And, these “kids” will be expected to give orders someday that their subordinates’ lives will depend on. They don’t even have self control.


4 posted on 09/05/2015 4:37:14 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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Welcome to Obama’s army!


5 posted on 09/05/2015 4:38:38 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: Celtic Conservative

6 posted on 09/05/2015 4:40:07 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled-...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Timber Rattler

Leave it to a couple jerks to ruin a decades old tradition.


7 posted on 09/05/2015 4:40:54 AM PDT by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Sasparilla

Allen West is the kind of leadership our military needs. He willfully sacrificed his own career for the men who served under him.


8 posted on 09/05/2015 4:41:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: Sasparilla

I think you’re over-blowing the severity of this.


9 posted on 09/05/2015 4:45:21 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Unless this has happened before ... the severity is warranted ... imo.

The mentality of a relatively intelligent kid (what, 20 years old?), highly trained and disciplined, who thinks this might be fun/funny ... is dangerously sick

We already have the experience of one certified whack job in the white mosque .... y'want one on the battlefield too?

Or worse ... pushing policy as an admin ?

10 posted on 09/05/2015 4:54:13 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: cripplecreek
Allen West is the kind of leadership our military needs. He willfully sacrificed his own career for the men who served under him.

I agree. West Point needs a hero General graduate to regulate it like the FBI had a Director promoted from within it's ranks. You see what kind of crap is in the white hut now with an unknown FBI director appointed by the liberals.

11 posted on 09/05/2015 4:57:04 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
I think you’re over-blowing the severity of this.

I don't know--24 concussions with one person knocked unconscious among a group of very select future officers is quite a price to pay for a prank.

Some of these cadets need to be expelled. They recklessly endangered their fellow cadets, and caused harm to them, and created real costs to the American taxpayers.

They are not officer material.

12 posted on 09/05/2015 4:59:12 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Timber Rattler

Is NOT the first time there has been brawls there.
So this is news?


13 posted on 09/05/2015 5:00:04 AM PDT by crz
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Many armies through history have had similar sorts of things among junior officers. In the British army regimental “mess games” could get rough. The games they played in school and on leave were rougher. The Germans, as students, slashed at each other with sabres, looking to acquire scars.
Male bonding rituals are often rough.
This business of the pillows is mild.


14 posted on 09/05/2015 5:08:08 AM PDT by buwaya
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-——This business of the pillows is mild.——

the pillows are perhaps a downgrade from some other form of fighting in the past


15 posted on 09/05/2015 5:10:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, .. Iran deal & holocaust: Obama's batting clean up for Adolph Hitler)
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To: Timber Rattler

Plebes are blowing off steam. I know that I had thoughts about taking a cheapshot or 3 against my platoon leader at Annapolis when we were on the court. Thought better of it. He may have seemed a like a ***ck, but he was doing his job.


16 posted on 09/05/2015 5:22:26 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: exit82; Wyrd bið ful aræd

“They are not officer material.”

Not even good enough to be officers and far, far below grade for enlisted men in the Navy I knew fifty three years ago. Anyone who pulled that kind of stunt in Navy boot in ‘62 would have been out on a dishonorable and likely doing a spell behind bars. In the real world outside of West Point that sort of thing is called ASSAULT WITH INTENT TO DO SERIOUS BODILY HARM, not a pillow fight. Are these dingbats so stupid they didn’t know the danger involved?


17 posted on 09/05/2015 5:28:22 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: crz

It’s all fun and games until someone eventually gets paralyzed or killed.


18 posted on 09/05/2015 5:33:17 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: crz
I see both helmets and body armor on some of the smarter cadets.

Some didn't get the memo or learn from the past.

I thought 3 or 4 soda cans were the preferred load for a standard size pillow case?

19 posted on 09/05/2015 5:35:41 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: bert
the pillows are perhaps a downgrade from some other form of fighting in the past

'The Annual Plebe Year 2x4 Fight'?

20 posted on 09/05/2015 5:40:47 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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