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Kim Davis and the Roots of Protestant Resistance to Civil Authority
National Review ^ | September 8, 2015 | DAVID FRENCH

Posted on 09/09/2015 10:03:11 AM PDT by xzins

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America was founded on the principles of religious freedom and rule by the people. Our constitution was designed to protect our religious freedom and all of our freedoms by severely restricting the federal government’s powers to only those actually enumerated and delegated to it by the constitution and reserving all others to the states and the people. Control over marriage is not an enumerated power for the feds and is clearly left to the people.

The majority of the people in the majority of the states from before the founding and right up to today are for one man-one woman marriage. The vast majority of the states had laws against same sex marriage before the scotus ruling. Only a handful of states had legislated to make it legal.

The courts have no business and no authority to toss out thousands of years of natural law, nullify our constitutionally protected rights to free exercise of religion, overturn the laws of majority of states, and overrule the majority will of the people!!

We the people do not consent to unjust laws!! Read and comprehend the Declaration of Independence! Unjust laws are not laws at all!!

Resist hell!! The founders would already be up in arms over this tyranny!!


21 posted on 09/09/2015 10:38:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: xzins

Hans Scholl, Sophie Scholl, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer all bravely resisted government tyranny at the cost of their lives. All three patriotic Germans were executed by the Nazis in the 1942-45 era.

Today, more of us will have to be willing to risk our lives and fortunes in order to save this country from falling further into the abyss.


22 posted on 09/09/2015 10:42:52 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47)
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To: Jim Robinson

Control over marriage is not an enumerated power for the feds and is clearly left to the people.

this is lost on most !


23 posted on 09/09/2015 10:43:54 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Jim Robinson

Hear-hear!

Resist hell!


24 posted on 09/09/2015 10:46:03 AM PDT by luvie (Cruz or Lose!)
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To: Jim Robinson

“...The courts have no business and no authority to toss out thousands of years of natural law, nullify our constitutionally protected rights to free exercise of religion, overturn the laws of majority of states, and overrule the majority will of the people!!...”

We suffer under a judicial tyranny and our oppressors are becoming ever more arrogant.


25 posted on 09/09/2015 10:46:42 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47)
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To: xzins

And Huckabee locked Sen. Cruz out of being with everyone when Ms. Davis was released from jail. Shame. On. Him.


26 posted on 09/09/2015 10:47:33 AM PDT by luvie (Cruz or Lose!)
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***The founders would already be up in arms over this tyranny!**

Too right!!!

27 posted on 09/09/2015 10:51:07 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: agere_contra

Probably because Luther normally gets grouped with the others. Note, however, that there is no parallel Luther quote as there is for Knox and Calvin.

Luther certainly had his problems. Initially, though, he was a rebel.


28 posted on 09/09/2015 10:55:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: LUV W

Part of that is on Cruz who should have found a way.


29 posted on 09/09/2015 10:57:41 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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Brother: one third of the angels were rebels. We can’t just stop at saying “so-and-so was a rebel” without discerning further.

But now that Jim’s on-thread I don’t want to distract from what should hopefully be a Constitutional discussion.

Good night, and may God lead us all into just rebellion.


30 posted on 09/09/2015 11:03:51 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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At the top of the paper that Judge Anthony Kennedy wrote on Obergefell, it says OPINION.

That’s it....an opinion.

His opinion versus rebellion. I’m putting my money on the rebellion.


31 posted on 09/09/2015 11:20:44 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their Victory!)
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To: agere_contra

I am not Lutheran, but I think there is more to that story. Also, Calvin and a few protestants were complicit in the murder of a few Baptists. I would say that they were wrong. Dead wrong. They do not do that anymore and Catholics have stopped murdering non-Catholics. May God grant that the brutality never happens again.


32 posted on 09/09/2015 11:27:34 AM PDT by AIL
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To: xzins

An excellent article, especially in a time where so many Caesarists are creeping around preaching abject capitulation to principalities and powers. I am amazed and happy to see it came from NRO.


33 posted on 09/09/2015 11:35:23 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Resist hell!! The founders would already be up in arms over this tyranny!!


I’m your Huckleberry


34 posted on 09/09/2015 11:35:58 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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When the State requires what God forbids, or forbids what God requires; then we obey God. The civil authorities receive their authority from God, hence they must call good what God calls good, and evil what God calls evil(Gay marriage-Romans 1). Scripture does not sanction the Christian to obey evil laws crafted by the civil Magistrate and disobey God, so long as we prove we were doing so at the command of the State. Our own Constitution was informed by this principle and our Declaration made it the case for Revolution. As Thomas Paine wrote: The Tree of Liberty must, from time to time, be watered by the blood of tyrants and patriots.


35 posted on 09/09/2015 11:40:35 AM PDT by windhover (windhover)
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Didn’t the Reformers think that marriage is simply a civil matter? Not that any of them would ever accept ‘gay marriage’ like the civil authorities have. But it seems to me that once it became a civil matter and defined by the civil authorities it became subject to changing in the minds of many, because civil matters have stipulated ways of changing. Thus no-fault divorce, bans on interracial marriage, and now acceptance of ‘gay marriage.’ Heck, the faith groups that have accepted ‘gay marriage’ didn’t even start marrying their gay members until the states they happened to be in also agreed.

Freegards


36 posted on 09/09/2015 11:46:37 AM PDT by Ransomed
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if they mean to have a war—let it begin here—and Now. I will NOT comply with any illegal order— Nor with with any unconstitutional mandate —Neither will I compromise my Conscience.


37 posted on 09/09/2015 11:57:05 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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I will NOT Comply with any illegal order—Nor with any unconstitutional mandate— Neither will I compromise my Conscience. Or as the Code puts it — “I will NEVER surrender of my own free will.”


38 posted on 09/09/2015 11:58:41 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: agere_contra

Who knew all those Christians in the Roman arena were Protestants!


39 posted on 09/09/2015 12:11:13 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good comments Jim...

I agree with you.


40 posted on 09/09/2015 1:28:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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